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did her mother bobbie actually give her away? shirley told pepper that rene was her sister. the two girls listened wide-eyed as shurlly explained to strangers that she was their grandmother, that her parents had been killed in an accident. i knew everything happening to us was wrong. why had she been taken? she didn t know. not for money certainly and without pepper s birth certificate, shurlly couldn t use her to score public assistance, though she did use renee that way. i never wanted to do anything wrong. i felt like if i did something wrong over and over she wouldn t love me and she would give me away. wouldn t love me? shirley told her said rene she was born to a prostitute drug
number of state lines for years. and then some time in the early 80s they settled down here. shirley pulled up to this motel in los angeles county and took a job as the motel s cleaning woman in exchange for a free room. and at least it gave them some measure of stability, and they signed up at a local school. junior high for pepper, high school for rene, much to shirley s disapproval. shirley would tell us girls don t go to school, they get married, why do you want to go to school? i didn t like being late to school. i didn t like being absent all the time. so they got themselves up every morning and went to school and kept going. and then pepper was 12. eight of those years with shirley when she saw her chance to escape and seized it. she made herself useful as a baby-sitter for the couple next door in room 109. and when the family moved out of
pepper and rene, claiming to be the woman who, according to shirley and barbara, was a child abandoning drug addled prostitute probably dead. could this woman really be their mother? hardly a claim allred could take on simple faith. i asked here to come in to see me the very next day, which she was very anxious and happy to do. i asked her to bring whatever evidence she had. and in that meeting the woman presented her evidence. she brought some photos that she had of pepper and rene when they were very little. she told allred she had been a waitress when the girls were little, brought a photo of that, too, and a picture of surely and also the photo of a man she said was the girls father, long since dead. she said her name was jeri. i asked her immediately, jeri, would you be willing to do a dna test.
the motel, pepper went with them. but it didn t last long. pepper s new household was as troubled and messy as her own life was. she swallowed her pride and moved back to 110 colennial hotel. even though by then, says pepper, shirley didn t seem to care much what she did. i remember when i was trying to so-called run away, plot my escape, before it went into action, i was in my mind i m going to show her, she ll care. like, i remember thinking that. but she didn t care. she didn t come to get me. still having tasted freedom once pepper was determined to get away from her kidnapper for good. the second time she took a chance, moved out with a family and a second time had to return. and finally by the time she turned 16, pepper left for good. but that meant she left rene