coordinate those, again, is up to the imagination of the bomber. when you bring in the fact that perhaps cell phones were used, there are many different ways that a cell phone could be configured that could be used to initiate a device. but one thing is for certain, there was technology used and there was an intention for simultaneousity. so at this point if you re an investigator or you were someone who was analyzing this incident, there is nothing there that can tell you to rule a lot of those things out, if that makes sense. that was the video there, just down the street, you can see another puff of smoke. we ll try to get it spot shadowed there. i want to read something to you. one of the eyewitnesses said, just a really loud explosion, glass and smoke everywhere. we just ran. this is david o neill of westborough. he says, glass was blown out of a restaurants window and then he checked his pockets and he found shotgun pellets, what he thought
murray, a gun control activist from chicago. she was a guest at the state of the union last month. steven barton, out reach and policy associate for mayors against illegal guns. steven is a survivor of the aurora colorado shooting last july. he was shot in the face and neck. his body riddled with 25 shotgun pellets. thank you both for joining me tonight. thank you. thank you. caroline, let me start with you. this is the first big step in getting real gun law legislation passed. what does this mean to you? it s only saying that there s so much more work that needs to be done.
you still have, what is it eight shotgun pellets in your body from what happened in colorado? did you have a chance to speak to some of the families of the victims of the sandy hook tragedy? i did get a chance to speak with speak with several families. and you know, the heartbreak that they have endured and are enduring now, is really the heart of the debate. the lives of the children of this country, so many of them who are killed by gun violence every single day. so you know, it has only been a month since 20 young children were brutally murdered in connecticut. and you know, i really commend the president and vice president for acting so quickly on this issue that you know, has long required this sort of serious discussion. and i m glad that we re having it now. congresswoman mccarthy, there was a lot of talk say three
but i have to say the president has promised that he is going to use his office to get out in the country and really talk this up. and get the american people on our side. steven, you were in a room with victims of gun violence today, yourself a victim. you still have, what is it eight shotgun pellets in your body from what happened in colorado? did you have a chance to speak to some of the families of the victims of the sandy hook tragedy? i did get a chance to speak with speak with several families. and you know, the heartbreak that they have endured and are enduring now, is really the heart of the debate. the lives of the children of this country, so many of them who are killed by gun violence every single day. so you know, it has only been a month since 20 young children were brutally murdered in cou y
now. over the years, the nra has had a major influence on congress. richard lui is here with the drill-down. it s amazing how far, how wide the influence is in places you wouldn t expect. and deep and small and large, as many ways as you want to describe it. gun control advocates point to the nation s symbol of freedom as proof of how deep the nra s power reaches. the center for biological diversity says numerous studies show the bald eagle along with 74 other bird species have been poisoned by lead from spent ammunition. now, lead shotgun pellets are found in fields or animals killed by guns have been discovered in bird s gizzards. the epa has been asked to ban lead from ammunition because of high numbers of bird deaths related to lead poisoning but the nra disagreed and successfully lobbied the epa to stop short its investigation and then reject the ban, saying it was a back door attempt at limiting hunting and gun control.