and have to say these kids are expecting to succeed, and we want them to succeed. dana: erin one little girl, she s 15, she said she never met her high school counselor. she did know that they were there. the resources constrained. but do you think that if you have for this requirement, maybe the families and pushing you, the government, the school is going to push it. that was my initial reaction was that here we go with another government mandate to require students to do something. but i come around to thinking that this is probably a good idea and you shouldn t, i shouldn t fault the mayor for trying to cop with a way to help these kids get ahead. but i think you ve touched on something that s very interesting. in the past, for my generation, it would be look to the church. we look to your nuclear family, maybe your extended family. you re looking to the neighbors, the people in the community to enforce some norms. i think a lot of that has fallen away. i m a big proponent of c