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Giving us about, for instance, van der zwaan, then you think theyve got something that they believe connected them to a russian. van der zwaan has a connection to a russian. his wifes father is a russian millionaire, oligarch. maybe that oligarch brought that business to the firm to begin with. >> worth noting again that connection, that is that van der zwaan did have contact with gates who is manaforts protege. >> exactly. >> we dont know what the connections all are. stan, good to see you. sta...