with bob massi regarding people who were foreclosed upon. he s about not taking responsibility and shifting it to someone else. he s not saying that, we just disagree about the extent of the government and whether they should be involved in this mess again. i say no, shovel down, let s stop. mary gmails, you ve got to be one of the most annoying hosts ever. why do you invite a guest on your show, then refuse to listen to them? she had more to say, but i cut her e-mail off. anyway, i stop them when they repeat it the talking point. bob, viaast, you re right, he wants to take care of the people who caused the problem and then walk away. what about the people who properly qualify, who are now underwater, cannot sell, can t walk away. they did the right thing and are screwed. true, life is not fair. it s on the taxpayer s time to try to bail out all the victims?
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conference to begin momentarily here. p.j., i m going to go to you first, as we await remarks from secretary of clinton there, what do you think we might hear? obviously we don t know yet what s happening on the ground but we know the meetings secretary clinton has been in? i would strongly suspect and hope that we hear that the ingredients of a cease-fire are being put in place. that s vitally important if we re able to kind of freeze events in place without a need for an israeli ground incursion. that s good news all around. i doesn t solve the longer issues, but as we have always said everyone push the shovel down which is progress. having been in some of these rooms and meetings before, when prime minister netanyahu said he s not interested in anything short term because from his
treadmill will make us a powerful country in the 22nd century, but we re nitpicking on the shrimp thing and nitpicking on the national science foundation for that matter. neil: ben? i love shrimp. i love it in tarter sauce. we know they re not tortureed. no, they have $400 million to toss around, give it to the widows and the orphans of the men who have been killed in iraq and afghanistan. divide it among them and give them each a check. don t waste it on the shrimp. the shrimp have been doing fine for millions of years. they ll continue to do fine. neil: the bigger issue here is more spending. well put. neil: two-and-a-half years in my big worry is i think we can put this particular shovel down, dagen. absolutely. more spending. it s spending because the government again, we said it before, no center. they know where the money
but the bottom line, the economy stinks so for the trillions we have spent and this is what we have, it is money not well spent. guest: is the alternate that we stop? we stop investing? that would not be good business practice. neil: that is exactly. stop. when you dig a hole, stop digging. put the some develop put the shovel down. guest: you spend smarter and better and invest. neil: how is spending smarter giving to unions and union-enhanced jobs? how is that smarter? you are just saying, rewarding your friends, not helping us. guest: look at potential economic output. if we get those people back to work doing productive things that are necessary for increasing economic activity in the country, that is a short-term gain with people back