the worst primary battle i've ever seen, certainly between hillary clinton and obama, and end up very nicely for the democrats, and yet on the republican side neil, in 2012, the field was on the republican side -- kind of weak. this year, this time around, republicans are not afraid of hillary clinton and that's why we'll have up to two dozen republican candidates. >> that can work against them as well. talk about -- >> absolutely. >> only one on the democratic side and a couple dozen on the republican side. such a thing as too many. right? >> that's right. especially when you think of fundraising and money and these guys are going to beat up each other. they have to spend a lot of money defending themselves against attacks. i think it's going to be -- there's no real front runner on the republican side. jeb bush is among the front runners. this will be a topsy-turvy race. there won't by any shortage of republican money to go after hillary clinton. >> thank you very machine.