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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20190901 09:25:00

because earlier in the day, he claimed he didn t know brandy was murdered. the question was sirius the gunman in brandy s driveway? he seemed to be no more than a casual friend of josh s from the gym, but when the i.t. guys cracked josh daniels phone use history it told a different story. what had he deleted? a lot of text messages. to whom? sirius underwood. sirius underwood was, by far, the one he was in contact the most. what s your thinking? when we first talked to josh, he never mentioned sirius underwood. why would they be lying to us about that? reporter: why indeed? the story told by the phones the concealed relationship fed a growing theory of the crime that they were looking at a long distance killing between ohio and alaska. if that was their case, then technology was going to be as valuable to them as dna or bloody fingerprints. the first big question did the killer, assuming he was a man, have a phone on him when he did the shooting. and what tower near th

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20190901 09:46:00

reporter: the grand jury sat for three months and heard more than 100 witnesses. in march 2016, it returned indictments against josh daniels and sirius underwood. at the request of authorities in ohio, the alaska state troopers located josh at his mother s home in wasilla. once ohio gave the green light to the troopers to move in on their suspect, they did. the cuffs went on without incident. a bulked up josh was put in the backseat of a cruiser and driven downtown. detective michel confronted him. you have been charged with several counts, including the robberies that occurred at gabriel brothers, tumbleweed, the one that you were going to do at campbell s, and the murder of your soon-to-be ex-wife, brandy. reporter: josh was shown a graphic crime scene photo of poor brandy. this is what you are responsible for. this is what happened to your ex.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20190901 09:39:00

parking lot he stuck the gun in josh s face shows a pistol? he ended up falling down. being knocked down. reporter: the tipster claimed that josh wasn t the victim of the robbery but actually one of the participants. and that his pal sirius had been the mastermind, not only of the department store job, but the prime mover in a crime wave responsible for multiple armed robberies most of them captured on surveillance video. the two bodybuilders secret sideline was a head-snapping revelation. sirius underwood at night is over here robbing drug dealers, or he s robbing tumbleweed restaurants, or they re hitting, you know, gabrielle brothers. but during the day, he s the sweetest guy, loves the women, they love him. he ll train with you. poster boy, just an all-around great american. reporter: the cops believed that linking sirius and his partner in crime josh daniels to the violent robberies would help nail the two for brandy daniels murder. we re on the right track f

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20190901 09:54:00

agreed to tell prosecutors. here s dennis murray with the conclusion of out there in the dark. as part of pleading guilty to murdering his wife brandy, josh had to admit what he had done. provide what lawyers call a proffer. he was brought to the prosecutor s office. when was the first time that this idea came about? at noon, sirius underwood, we were having a conversation one day at his apartment and i was telling him about how hard this was on me. me and brandy splitting up and how pissed off i was that she was seeing that guy craig. and he made the comment, well, [ bleep ], and at the time, being emotional and mad, i made the decision that

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20190901 09:47:00

i m willing to talk to you to get your side of the story if you re willing to talk to me. i think you re a good investigator but i m going to have an attorney. okay. we re gonna do that. that s fine, josh. reporter: meanwhile, back in zanesville, police surrounded sirius underwood s car and arrested him. his interrogation didn t last long. you know why you re here? tell me. okay, we ve had a grand jury, and you ve been indicted. for what? aggravated murder, aggravated robberies, attempted robberies, weapon under disability, tampering with evidence. josh daniels was also arrested, and if josh is up there talking, i think it s the proper thing to tell you that you have the opportunity to tell me, too. would you like to talk to me about this? no, i want a lawyer. you want a lawyer? yeah. okay. reporter: josh waved extradition, and was brought back to ohio. brandy s mother got word at the end of her shift. i get a phone call, you need to get down here now.

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