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What exactly constitutes a wall. outgoing chief of staff john kelly said this administration actually abandoned the idea of a physical border wall early in trumps presidency. he told "the los angeles times" in an interview, to be honest, its not a wall. the president still says wall. oftentimes, frankly, hell say barrier or fencing. now hes tended towards steel slats, but we left a solid concrete wall early on in the administration. obviously this deal that senator graham described out of his lu...

Reporting that president trump wanted jared and ivanka to go back to new york. do you find it notable that shes so quick to end any speculation that, hey, im not doing this? >> you know, she plays a very big role in this white house as an adviser in the presidents life. and because of that knee-jerk reaction from the world community about how she sat in on that. and then also once again, going back to the tax issue, they are quelling this right now before it gets started. they did bring it out, ...

World leaders at the g20. and "the new york times" reporting that president trump wanted javanka, jared and ivanka, to go back to new york. do you find it notable that shes so quick to end any speculation that, hey, im not doing this? >> you know, she plays a very big role in this white house as an adviser in the presidents life. and because of that knee-jerk reaction from the world community about how she sat in on that. and then also once again, going back to the tax issue, they are quelling t...

The judiciary committee just after christine blasey ford accused him of sexual assault, saying she remembered it was him with 100% certainty. lets go live to m.j. lee, who was in the hearing room. you just spoke to senator flake, who is a keep, pivotal swing vote and it unclear how hes going to vote on judge kavanaugh. >> reporter: thats right. he walked away from the room pretty quickly. we tried to get some comment from him after the last break. he said he was still listening. thats all he wou...

Scrambled if he was staying in his job, was getting fired or was resigning, called my colleague at the washington post and basically said that the white house was trying to figure out the exact same thing not just the reality but their own talking point, how they were going to try to spin it. so the second part of your question, at the end of the day it was kind of this disco ball. as of monday night nothing has actually changed yet. >> ashley, i found it notable that kelly walked him out to the...

Washington. even a white house, there was a lag time as they tried to figure out what was going on. one white house official as we in the media frantically scrambled if he was staying in his job, was getting fired or was resigning, called my colleague at the washington post and basically said that the white house was trying to figure out the exact same thing not just the reality but their own talking point, how they were going to try to spin it. so the second part of your question, at the end of...

Former nsc director for korea, japan, and oceanic affairs. welcome to you both. sue, what do the recent, especially for people trying to enjoy the labor day weekend in america, what do the recent moves by the north, by kim jong-un tell you? and what does he continue to want from us, from anyone? >> kim jong-un is bent on completing and perfecting his nuclear arsenal, achieving capability of hitting anywhere in the united states with nuclear tipped missile. and hes not going to stop negotiating f...

The one we dropped on hiroshima. >> general mccaffrey, was it notable that the administration put mattis out over the weekend? was it notable what general mattis said? and in your view, is diplomacy going to get us anywhere in this thing? >> what a great way to phrase that question. i think it was extremely important that it was to take note that it was secretary mattis flanked by the chairman of the jcs, joe dunford. i think his language was categorica categorical. he didnt talk about any attac...

That program. this was a very powerful nuclear test. hydrogen bomb. five times more powerful than the one we dropped on hiroshima. >> general mccaffrey, was it notable that the administration put mattis out over the weekend? was it notable what general mattis said? and in your view, is diplomacy going to get us anywhere in this thing? >> what a great way to phrase that question. i think it was extremely important that it was to take note that it was secretary mattis flanked by the chairman of th...

Reports to the president, everyone else reports to general kelly. i guess well see if that actually happens. >> i think this is as we discussed on friday, jake, when this all happened. i think we were still in this waiting to see moment, because it looks like right now that donald trump is giving general kelly all the tools and latitude he needs to really get up and running in this role, to really try to instill some discipline. this is one way to do that. but think about everything you understa...