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was no longer president that mr. trump could face legal liability if he did not return government materials he had taken with him when he left office. the lawyer, eric herschmann, sought to impress upon mr. trump the seriousness of the issue and the potential for investigations and legal exposure if he did not return the documents, particularly any classified material. and generally, not long after the discussion with mr. bush and. mr. trump turned over, to the national archives, 15 bo...

trumps defense attorneys. it will be interesting to see whether or not they go back to the judge that ordered this, judge cannon in west palm beach, and say, you know, you never really addressed this, so why is the special master bringing this up, is this something you can make a ruling on? so i think thats something well have to watch. >> we have crossed the top of the hour. tom winter and vaughn hillyard. tom, how does this fit in as we step back out of the weeds on this investigatio...

lawyer, it hence the same way. >> it really is wild to watch it happen over and over again. >> and so it goes, the will keeps turning, thank you chris as always. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. imagine somebody write you a check. you take did the bank, you cash, it deposit, whatever. and then the czech bounces. you didnt write this check, you had no idea that it was not good. up until today, banks across the country could charge you for that transaction. you would g...

check, you take it to the bank, you cash it, deposit, whatever. then that check bounces, no you did not write this check, you had no idea that it was not good, well up until today thanks across the country could charge you for that transaction. you would get charged a fee for being affect him of a fraud. thats just one of the laundry list of what president biden is calling junk fees, that he announced his administration is going to cut down on. have you ever shown up to the airport and...

i dont understand why anyone signs up for a lawyer for donald trump. it ends the same way. >> i know. it is really wild to watch it happen over and over and over again.er >> and yet -- yeah. so it goes. the wheels keep turning. thank you, chris. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. imagine someone writes you a check. you take it to the bank. i you cash it, deposit it, whatever. and then that check bounces. now you didnt where you this check. you had no idea that it wasnt...

now for the last word with lawrence odonnell. good evening lawrence. >> good evening alex. seeing is kevin mccarthys first order of business in the house of representatives is to prove how much we do not need a house of representatives if it is to be run by the legislative crazies of the republican party. >> maybe that will never be seated. maybe this is it. maybe its just about the upper chamber? >> so far, the republicans have done no damage in the house of representatives. the damag...

candidate who doesnt want to commit. "the lead" starts rile now. with just over three weeks to go to the midterms, early voting begins in a key state that entire country is watching. herschel walker with a new admission today and the republican who wants to be arizonas next governor indicates she might not be interested in the actual results. plus, kamikaze terror, kyiv comes under attack from drones that russia is getting from iran. a pregnant woman killed. could this change how the...

chamber. >> so far the republicans have done no damage in house of representatives. the damage begins as soon as they have control of it, with the speaker. >> we will be wishing for the good old days when nobody was seated. >> and, alex, one nice note for history today is that the person who is next in line for the presidency, after the vice president, is, once again, a woman, because patty murray became the president pro tem of the united states senate, and there is no speaker of the ...

but hes not going to do the deal, not on this roll call. maybe not today. chris jansing, my colleague is going to take over this roll call. watch with steve kornacki. this has been an extraordinary day already. we have another flip here. >> we knew it was going to be historic. steve kornacki, what did we just seethe? i want to go back to steve. what are we looking at? >> mary miller from illinois, another one of the holdouts, she also flipping over and voting for mccarthy. that means t...

house to capitol hill with the collision of two historic and deeply connected events. the first, the ongoing crisis over the house speakership still unfolding in the house at this moment, which just voted to adjourn until 10:00 pm tonight after 13 votes took pl. and the speaker was still not elected pickett is something that has not happened in american politics in 164 years. since before the civil war. the second event, the anniversary of the january 6 insurrection. the worst attack o...