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not be able to organize against anything. freedom of exprotection would be on the table for him if he enjokes the insurrection act as he wants to. jonathan, i wanted to turn to trump here in a moment. during the hush money trial we saw the former president in a new light. someone who was falling asleep. somebody who did not have the stamina or the strength if you will to realize the moment he was in. could his image take a hit during the next couple of hits on trial in a way that dents him? >> reporter: i think very much could. i was in the courtroom. i saw him falling asleep. this is not reportedly, this actually happened. on more than one occasion, monday and again on thursday and friday. he was nodding off. it makes it hard for him to call joe biden sleepy joe. that nickname is out the window. and think about the contrast. joe biden has what they call
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against anything if trump becomes president in this country. again, freedom of expression would certainly be on the table for him if he invokes the insurrection act as he wants to. jonathan, i wanted to turn to trump here in a moment during the hush money trial as we did see the former president in a new light. this is someone who was reportedly falling asleep. somebody who did not have the stamina or the strength if you will to realize the moment he was in. could his image actually take a hit during the next couple of weeks on trial in a way that actually dents him? >> reporter: i think it very much could. i was in the courtroom, and i saw him falling asleep. this is in the reportedly it, but this happened. on more than one occasion, by the way, on monday and then again on thursday and friday. he was nodding off. that's not a good look. it will make it hard for him to call joe biden sleepy joe. that nickname is out the window. think about the contrast. joe biden has with what they
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it's what's the other one takes news fakes, news, and stuff like that. i think those are great. >> well, when you're talking about slope, sleepy joe and suddenly can't use that anymore. fortunately for him. but one of the things that i do like is the idea of all these people, the jurors as they're coming forward, say putting up all the social media stuff about him and he's got to listen to it because mostly he doesn't get that incoming of negative and he gets positivity constantly, people constantly licking him up and down and all of a sudden he's seeing what i want to pick up on that because i was talking to norm eisen, who is a distinguished lawyer, knows he actually written a book about all of those. he was in court and he said there was one moment this week where the judge reprimanded trump. he doesn't get a lot of reprimands now. and any sad now, norm eisen is not a fan of trump that he kind of sunk back in his chair in his chin, went down and he looked like a beaten six-year-old. he said, the lack of control for a guy who's always in control has got to be tough.
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