back and forth at the irs without any audit trip. reporter: in the courtroom government officials will need to explain how many hours their lawyer spent investigating those claims. martha: lois lerner clearly said i have done nothing wrong in the first hearing where thee took the fifth . if you have done nothing wrong what is it you want to make sure is not revealed in emails? reporter: there is no new line of defense. but one democratic lawmaker read a statement from lerner s lawyer. the facts are miss lerner did not destroy any records subject to the federal records act. she did not cause the computer assigned to her to fail.
we heard his mother had the chance 0 go to the courthouse yesterday. she got about 20 minutes with her son once the hearing was completed. we are optimistic about the future. reporter: how tid you find him? strong, he s very strong and positive. reporter: he s getting a lot of help from an american advocacy group. they working with a pastor, they meet with him and pray with him and help keep his spirits up. yesterday was his 101st day in mexican custody. 11 hours was spent in a hearing at a mexican courthouse. martha: his mother has been at the forefront of keeping this front and center. bill: israel stepping up its
and compassion you would shut down the bored and show compassion for the children who are already here. bill: netherlands against argentina coming down to the penalty kick. that is your winner. the goalkeeper for argentina was the star of that game. 4-2 in the shootout. germany beat the host country. brazilian fans will be watching two of their bitter rivals play. i have to think germany is the fast it, right? martha: we don t know what we are talking about but we tried to learn. pill we are moderate fans with a small m. martha: i think we said
argentina ned. who are you going to nick the final? bill: i m going to pick germany. is that okay? it means you will have to go with argentina. martha: one of those hemmer-maccallum bets. back to the business of news. another day, another fundraiser for president obama. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani is here on what some say is an emerging pattern in the obama presidency.
martha: you think he wants people to flow over the border? i think he has no idea what to do. i don t think he s prepared. witnessed by his failure to go to the border. martha: how you orchestrate that? i would have gone and had him make a speech about what his policy is and what he wanted to do with the republicans to solve it immediately. martha: would you have pictures with families? of course you would. we are a compassionate nation. this is a man putting politics ahead of rationality. martha: compassion is the argument and we haven t seen that. we have seen pool. you can be tough and compassionate. this is about flooding the zone. this is about new democratic voters getting them on a path to citizenship. martha: if you wanted toughness