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either try you again or maybe plead to a lesser charge. but if i m the defense, i m feeling pretty confident about a retrial other than the pain for the defense of having to sit and wait for another trial and another jury to be seated and to go through this all over again and probably pay their lawyers all over again. go ahead, pete. i see you wanting to jump in. your mike was muted but please sorry. i was just going to say this is not a total loss for the government because two other men who earlier were charged in this plot have now pleaded have since pleaded guilty. that s a good point. pete williams, danny cevallos, thanks to the both of you. appreciate your time. appreciate you bringing us this breaking news. pete, we ll look for more of you tonight on nightly. and danny on nbc news now thanks. after the break those powerful words from judge ketanji brown jackson this afternoon when she was at the white house for the first time since her historic confirmation to the

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