Cspan2. Cspan2. Hi, everybody, im david, welcome to the National Book festival in the difficult time of the pandemic. One single they think we can do and i know youre loving it as i am, is to read good books. I wrote a book that was published this summer, the paladin, about a cia officer whos struggling with one of the central problems of our times, which is knowing whats true and what isnt. And its my great pleasure to have with me today two people who wrote two of the very best books of this summer about issues related to our new technologically sophisticated world and the dangers. First, i want to introduce bart gellman, my former colleague at the Washington Post who wrote an extraordinary memoirs and his dealings with Edward Snowden and the technology and surveillance and the title of the book says, the american surveillance state. And another outstanding office, thomas rid who teaches at Johns Hopkins and his accurate measure of history what weve come to call disinformation, the w