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electorate today which you spoke about was to freeze nonessential migration. i wanted to ask you: are programmers and software developers nonessential migrants? there are a range of essential and nonessential. i am asking you about. depending on the time of the cycle and who we are short of. sure. i am asking this question: do you think programmers and software developers are nonessential? irate developers are nonessential? we should developers are nonessential? - should be training our own people and many of these areas. 50 should be training our own people and many of these areas.- and many of these areas. so you think they and many of these areas. so you think they are? and many of these areas. so you think they are? where and many of these areas. so you think they are? where we - and many of these areas. so you think they are? where we have l and many of these areas. so you j think they are? where we have a shortaae think they are? where we have a shortage at think they are

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