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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Unspun World with John Simpson 20240604 11:39:00

potential, that that will be successful. so, within the western media, the discourse lies in discussing whether ukrainian counteroffensive is strong enough. did they manage to take enough territories? is it too slow? if you read ukrainian media, it would be a very different take on that, so people would be mostly hopeful and grateful the counteroffensive is moving, full stop. that s the major thing for them. they understand that it cannot be an easy task, because for ukrainian people, it s notjust a number of troops or a number of soldiers. it s somebody s father, it s somebody s son. for them, the speed is not that important as saving as many lives as possible. the possibility is quite strong that the russian army mightjust actually collapse in the face of the ukrainian army at some stage, or that the political will to carry on the war will fall.

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Breakfast 20240604 05:41:00

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 00:41:00

writing about somebody s son, somebody s brother. yeah, so i got their permission to do it. and partly it was because. ..i wanted to tell the story, actually, and partly because i thought it might be good for other people who were going through the same thing. and also, actually, writers write, it s what i do. is that ever exploitative? oh, yeah. yes, of course it is. this is the thing people say about the chip of ice, don t they, in the writer s heart. and there are elements, i think, when you re dealing with stuff which is extremely painful for other people, and you re editing and selecting because you have a story to tell and there are rules of narrative and you want to, you want people to read it. but that s a trade off, i think. is this a project that has integrity and honesty? is it valuable? well, if you think so, yes, then you do. the other thing is, you know, you bump into people in life. i learnt this with david, actually. we ve had a very, you know, you bruise.

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 04:41:00

i got permission from david s family. i was going to say, because, you know, you re writing about your husband, your life partner, but you re also writing about somebody s son, somebody s brother. yeah. so i got their permission to do it. and partly it was because. ..i wanted to tell the story, actually, and partly because i thought it might be good for other people who were going through the same thing. and also, actually, writers write, it s what i do. is that ever exploitative? oh, yeah. yes, of course it is. this is the thing people say about the chip of ice, don t they, in the writer s heart. and there are elements, i think, when you re dealing with stuff which is extremely painful for other people, and you re editing and selecting because you have a story to tell and there are rules of narrative and you want to, you want people to read it. but that s a trade off, i think. is this a project that has integrity and honesty? is it valuable? well, if you think so, yes, then you do. th

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 03:41:00

but i thought as much disclosure as i can. i got permission from david s family. i was going to say, because, you know, you re writing about your husband, your life partner, but you re also writing about somebody s son, somebody s brother. yeah. so i got their permission to do it. and partly it was because. ..i wanted to tell the story, actually, and partly because i thought it might be good for other people who were going through the same thing. and also, actually, writers write, it s what i do. is that ever exploitative? oh, yeah. yes, of course it is. this is the thing people say about the chip of ice, don t they, in the writer s heart. and there are elements, i think, when you re dealing with stuff which is extremely painful for other people, and you re editing and selecting because you have a story to tell and there are rules of narrative and you want to, you want people to read it. but that s a trade off, i think. is this a project that has integrity and honesty? is it valuable?

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