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you were there. and i think it's pretty clear to you that this was done by civilians or in some cases people who were actual law enforcement or military, but -- >> those idiots that you just played are just repeating the lies that they have heard, you know, their masters within the republican party echo for the past three years. >> and do you think as somebody who, you know, you're in the world, you're not a pundit, you talk about your own personal experience. and you experienced these people first hand. do you think this is a belief system that is changeable or do you think that this is now going to be dogma in part of our country, that people just won't believe the experience you had happened? >> i used to. i used to think that, you know, by educating people about my experience, about the
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happening. so they don't want that scenario. they want to put as much as they can to put the parents' minds at ease, so the students will be calling the parents saying everything is ok and the one victim reported right now, i'm sure that pending notification to that victim's family, that's probably already done right now, so they are just going out there and have to just lock into where this person is, has been, and is going to right now, and how that person is inside that school right now. is it a student, or maybe it's not a student, maybe it's just somebody that works there, maybe somebody who, you know, got on to the campus somehow, but as chris said, these i.d.'s now, that's a crucial part in many of these campuses and not only campuses for college, but high school as well, it's the i.d. so you have the i.d. and you have to present it. so once again, every time a shooting like this happens, they change the protocols and they change it to, you know, update
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and thirdly, i think i said it pretty quickly in the clip that you showed. 50 minutes and, i already had enough of being told that, for somebody who, like me, sacrifice seven years of my life being the united states attorney, for new jersey, then another eight years being governor of new jersey. that i am bought and paid for. by anybody. especially by a candidate like the back who, in his book that came out last year said donald trump's conduct was reprehensible, plain and simple. now he says i did not say it. no i'm not saying you said it, you wrote it. or whoever wrote your book for you wrote it and secondly he now says that he is the guy who will pardon donald trump wants everyone else to commit to it. and i actually thought mike pence's answer on that was pretty good, where he said i
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the damage that is coming his way? >> i think, all it can do is insulate him in the increasingly shrinking bubble that he currently finds himself. there is no chance that what's happening tonight is having a positive effect on the piece of the electorate that he's going to need to make his case to very very quickly. and if we can go back to last night for a minute, at the debate, i'm sorry -- >> please i see it is part one of what happened. >> the moment where they were asked will you support him if he is convicted in running from prison? and they'll put their hands up. is a lot more striking and shocking today, even, than it was yesterday. >> as somebody who, you know, who was thought about this man 's misstates for a very long time. and thought about this day for very long time. it drove home today, even for somebody who has spent a long time contemplating the very -- of this. i'm sure that's happening for everyone else. >> they're gonna keep getting asking that question. presumably in the course of
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that, to the point chris christie made, is not necessarily real. he is somebody who, when i was researching the book that i did on him, the people who know him said that donald trump has always benefited from stronger men that can protect him. whether it was his father or an attorney, whether it was michael cohen, he always had a bulldog and they did the fighting. he didn't even like a firing people, for all of his your fired being his thing. the producers decided to got fired on the apprentice, and he would just to say the words you're fired on the apprentice. he even hesitated with jeff says friends, he was very back and forth on it. >> he never fired mueller. >> this is so important and it is so true. the other part of it is how afraid he was one of michael cohen became ensnared criminally, because he knows that the people who have protected him have all the goods on him. the reason that -- people close to describe it as
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of mood, that's a quote somebody gave me. essentially what his mindset was, unhappy trope in the first place, but also upon leaving. there was one detail in particular that seemed to irk the former president the most, and that was when he was in there, in that hearing, and the judge referred to him simply as, quote, mr. trump. he is somebody who, at his bedminster clump where he is back tonight, or at mar-a-lago, he still referred to by those around him as president trump. that was a moment that particularly irked him, laura. >> thank you caitlin, it's interesting to think about that. up next, as donald trump is arrested and arraigned, again, three of his allies in michigan are indicted for trying to tamper with voting machines at the 2020 election. i'm gonna speak with the man who charge them. that's what you get from the morgan stanley client experience. you get listening more than talking, and a personalized plan
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work this month and to figure out how incidents like this and the covenant school shooting in nashville this past march could be prevented. rarely -- i would say more often than not, the government responds, you know, as an entity through our police force. this is something we can do to be preventive and help save lives on the front end. >> are you hearing some of the same sentiments from your constituents? what are you hearing from the community members about the potential of a red flag law and, you know, about this incident itself? >> yeah, you know, i don't think this is a battleground issue that it's been made out to be. so often -- this is more -- from my opinion, this is more of a common ground issue that most people, including republicans understand that somebody who, again, has demonstrated to be a risk and using a gun to commit a
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