this and much more is democratic congressman ted lieu who serves on the house judiciary and foreign affairs committee. congressman lieu, thank you for joining us. so this is colonel vindman testifying about a conversation he had with ambassador sondland regarding the quote/unquote deliverables, what ukraine needed to do in order to get this meeting. question, do you understand how he came to believe this deliverable was necessary? answer, so i heard him say, sondland, this is coordinated with mick mulvaney. and question what did sondland say about that. answer, he said he had a conversation with mr. mulvaney and this is what was required in order for the ukrainians to get a meeting. question, did he explain what the investigations were that were needed and vind mand and he talked about the investigations and the 2016 election and the investigation into the bidens and burisma. mulvaney defied the subpoenas