2020 election. and one of the calls was to brad raffensperger and he told cnn at time that he came away from that call under the impression that gam graham was asking him to throw away ballots to potentially benefit donald trump s election challenges at that time. graham has denied that was case. one thing important about his appearance today even though the court said he had to appear. they did leave him room to not answer certain questions, to challenge certain questions and if he said i was pursuing something as part of my legislative activity and my decision-making about whether to certify the 2020 election results, prosecutors may hit a dead end. but lower courts did say, look if you are coordinated with the trump campaign and trying to cajole election official news doing something, that is not legislative activity. we ll see what comes of it. it is good to see you, thank you so much. so a federal appeals court is hearing arguments in the justice department challenge to the sp