are tense again. thank you so much for joining us this morning. thanks to all of you for getting up way too early on this thursday morning. morning joe starts right now. a self-loathing has swept our country. joe and kamala even say america is racist. this is not about identity politics. i don t believe in that, and i don t believe in glass ceilings either. strong and proud, not weak and woke. that s the america i see. [ applause ] the only challenger so far to donald trump in the 2024 presidential race kicks off her campaign. during that speech, nikki haley took a dig at her former boss and president joe biden. we ll play for you those comments. also today, we ll get our first look at the pieces of the grand jury investigating the president s attempts to overturn the 2020 election results in georgia. plus, mike pence wants all the credit for doing the right thing on january 6th but doesn t want to talk about it under oath. we ll show you what he had to say abou
it was deadly serious. of course, she would never bring that up in her speech. so, you know, michael steele, it was you know, it was a good enough launch in 2008 or 2012. here we are in the middle of the age of trump, and, you know, new york times has a story about republican candidates afraid to mention donald trump s name. he is like lord voldemort. you have to mention his name and go after voldemort if you want to defeat him. they have to do the same thing with donald trump. they re just not going to do it. when they give this speech as if it is 2008 or 2012, everybody in the room is just sitting there waiting. you know, the elephant, the
trump. it s embraced white nationalism. it thinks there are fine nazis and fine klu klux klan members. you can t do that if you are not willing to go there. you are absolutely right, you tie that into the winning. that s how we win again. we win because america is behind us. and america is behind us because we re not standing on anti-democratic, anti-madisonian, anti-constitutional principles. and you re right, joe, it is not hard. but it requires something they don t have. leadership. yeah. and we haven t seen leadership in the republican party since donald trump wiped the floor with 15 republican senators, governors, and politicians in 2016. so we re going to talk about this a lot more ahead on morning joe. we have a lot of other news to get to, as well. still ahead on morning joe,
don t you? don t we deserve to know exactly how he feels about this? michael steele, wouldn t it make sense that the vice president, perhaps, the former vice president under president trump should tell us how he feels about what happened during trump s presidency? i couldn t agree more. i don t get the complication here because it s not complicated. i think, you know, hugo s reporting and certainly what we ve been saying here this morning about this matter, it s very clear to all of us. you were there. i mean, this is like any other thing that would have happened on the capitol. and the investigators would want the prinipals who were involved in that thing to come tell us what you know, what you saw, what you heard. what were your conversations? what s so complicated about that? you re not being asked to reveal
be this delicate dance of where you need to try to differentiate yourself from trump without drawing the wrath of the former president trump or his supporters who, of course, you need. you need to siphon off some of them in order to be a viable candidate for the republican nominee. if there is a mental acuity test, jon meacham, let s remember, donald trump said he passed one. remember the five words? person, woman, man, camera, tv. trump has that down. we ll see if anyone else can do it. weigh in, if you will, about this dilemma. does it remind yo of an overwhelming favorite in a party from a historical perspective, when others need to knock him or her down but also try to win his or her supporters? sure. any time you re running against a former person, you end up, particularly someone you ve served, right? right. you have to thread a needle.