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rejects a deal that israel already accepted all right 5:00 a.m. here in washington, a live look at capitol hill early on this wednesday morning. >> good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us for the first time in american history, the child of a sitting president has been convicted of a crime. a jury in delaware finding hunter biden guilty on all three felony charges, two, for lying about his drug use on a federal background check. a third possessing for possessing a gun while addicted to or using illegal drugs. the verdict ended a very stressful week and a half for the biden family. the trial exposing painful details about the extent of hunter's drug use the president embracing his just convicted sun on a tarmac in wilmington shortly after the verdict was handed down, the president releasing the statement, quote, as i said last week, i am the president, but i am also a dad, jill and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. he added as i also said, last week, i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal reaction came in quickly from across capitol hill. here's a little bit from both sides of the aisle but mr. speaker, you've been saying two tier system of justice for some time. here's the president's son being convicted on three counts that undercut your clients. >> it doesn't every case is different and clearly the evidence was overwhelming here. i don't think just the case in the trump trial. >> i've not heard a single democrat anywhere in the country cry fraud cry fixed, cry, rigged a cry kangaroo court. you don't hear a single peek out of any democrats saying that why we believe in the rule of law all right, journey is down to discuss deaf kite political reporter for axios, stef. good morning to you. thank you so much for being here. good. >> how would you characterize what we're hearing in reaction to this conviction we've got a little taste. >> they're from each side. >> yeah, it's an interesting democrats have certainly been kind of sticking to the talking point that no one is above the law and they've been pretty muted in their response or certainly not rushing to the defense of hunter, right now, they're just saying we need to trust the justice system and on the other side, i think it's been interesting to see how republicans are responding to this because of course, we've heard from some that they are opposed to certain gun laws and they've been using that as one reason. to kind of push back on the hunter conviction here and we've also seen republicans say, yeah, maybe they found him guilty in this situation, but this isn't enough. we've heard from exam, for example, james comer are calling for more investigation into biden family members. so we're seeing them take this and demand more certainly not cheering this very loudly from republicans. >> yeah, i mean, the way republicans are, i mean, in some ways they're they're almost downplaying it. >> this was matt gaetz, who of course has been you know it doesn't exactly. >> shy away from saying inflammatory things. he writes this, the hunter biden gun conviction is kinda dumb to be honest, dbh and then marjorie taylor greene says that what we really should be focused on quote, unquote remains untouched and then she says hunter biden just became the deepstate sacrificial lamb to show that justices balanced, while the other biden crimes remain ignored. she's of course, talking about the sprawling impeachment investigation into the president via some of the business activities of his son that ultimately showed have so far failed to turn up anything extraordinarily incriminating. it does put them in a little bit of a difficult spot when they are saying what they're saying about former president trump's conviction. >> exactly i mean, the reality is this does undermine some of their arguments that they've been making for the past several years, that the justice department, that justice system is biased against conservatives and that trump is a victim of this. and now we have hunter biden, the son of the sitting president, a democrat and a very democratic state who is still being found guilty of federal charges. and so that doesn't quite neatly fit into this narrative that republicans have been spinning four. again since 2015, 2016. and so we're seeing them trying to get around on that. of course. and one of the ways they're trying to get around this is by saying, oh see, this was just to make people forget about how bad the case was against trump. they're pointing to this as no politically motivated, still even now, because again, they need to explain this away. how can if the justice system is so rigged, how can hunter biden still be found guilty in a democratic state so in terms of the president himself, i mean, clearly the statement that they put out focused on his role as a dad, you obviously was on camera when he embraced hunter there after this all came down, he did not go to the trial, but his wife, the first lady, jill biden, attended every single day. >> i mean, what do you hear from sources about how the stress of going through this has affected them as they are the president's campaign for reelection. >> yeah, i mean, there's no question that joe biden cares a lot about his family. it's a very close-knit family and there's no question that that hunters ongoing issues with addiction and then these criminal cases have impacted him. he is invested the fact that we did see him immediately helicopter to delaware to see hunter after this decision came through shows that he is invested in this. the fact that the first lady was there and you know, every every day at this trial, this is going to impact the family emotionally and it's going to impact joe biden as he is trying to run for reelection in a very closely contested race. whether we see this actually impact 2024 is still an open question. there's no polling that indicates that voters are necessarily going to change. there minds around this. but i do think the biggest impact this could have is on joe biden's focus and how he's willing to campaign and whether he's willing to set this aside and really focus on what needs to be done i mean, look like presidential campaign is a crucible and anything that distracts you has the potential to really kind of effect thanks from a very and he's got this trial coming up in september on tax issues. >> han fei, those which is of course very squarely in the political calendar, steph. thank you. i really appreciate you. start us off this morning. thank you. >> alright coming up next here, president biden heading out on another international trip today, plus the southern state with almost a month's worth of rain in a single day more is coming plus the matchup is set to one the most important senate races of the year. >> but bring you that the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes 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all right, welcome back, president biden, traveling to italy this morning ahead of the annual g7 summit that starts tomorrow, he'll be meeting with the leaders of france and germany both leaders reeling from heavy defeats in recent european parliamentary elections also, prime minister, british prime minister rishi sunak, he is in the grips of a political storm himself as they all face stiff domestic competition and similar challenges to staying in power i will earn your trust and i will prove to you that only a conservative government led by me will not put are harder and economic stability at risk. this is a situation that i cannot come to terms with the rise of nationalists, of demagogues is a danger for our nation. >> what do you think you need to accomplish are that debate stage i have to share ready says, remind people what he says and what i believe what he believed my journey me now cnn's max foster live from london. >> max, good morning to you as i watch this and think about kind of what's unfolding across europe. but also here in the us well, politico wrote it. this way. let's, let's read from it, quote, the three liters or dramatically changing the plot and facing their issues head-on. basically, they argue that the establishment politicians in this case are trying to hold up a global order that is fraying, particularly because of challenges, doesn't totally apply to rishi sunak on the right. but for the germans, the french, and of course, biden here at home with trump it is trying to take on this kind of rising nationalism. how do you look at all of this and what's the conversation like heading into the g7? >> yeah. well, i think rishi sunak is facing the same thing because whilst the left free labor party is expected to win the election, is the fact that the far right reform party is taken so many votes away from rishi sunak's conservative party. so while he is on the right and the other toura, center-left, they're all in the center and they're all facing a real threat from the right. the idea, i think bringing things forward, macron and sunak bringing on these elections much earlier than people expected. biden going into the debates many people expected, i think is this the theory that if you appeal to the rational side of people with serious policies, then you'll be able to argue that over a longer period of time before people actually go to the polls. but i think the right is very successfully. certainly here in europe, argue it's a bizarre one because they're basically arguing around cost of living, inflation. people can't afford things. so therefore, you need to hunker down stop immigration, stopped sending money to ukraine, stop paying for the environment, which is that idea of the cost of living crisis has always been an argument. the left you successfully in the past and it's in another right is using it. so many people are seeing it really as a failure of the left in many ways, but it's also a big chunk allen's for the center ground yeah. >> no, it's it's a really interesting way to look at it. i mean, i would also say, i mean, one of the things that is big picture different here and challenging is the security situation, right? i mean the there's an isolationist tendency to the trump situation here. >> in the the us that quite frankly, really affects how the us will interact with nato, european security. >> i mean, there are russian warships doing drills 30 miles off the coast of florida that the us military is monitoring right now. and of course there's discussion about how this fits into the recent us decision to allow us weapons to be used across the border with russia. all of that kind of looming over these leaders as they meet know absolutely this is probably says more about russia, doesn't it? >> this these ships than it does about the us. russia showing its global presence and it's coming through on everything, isn't it? whether right. but they've been trying to undermine they've been trying to kind of there's evidence that they've been trying to encourage and stoke some of this race wing political activity to try and split the west and reduce the security power across the board of the west now, yeah, it's all about creating divisions in the west so they can fill that vacuum with their own or authority in these ships are really a visualization all of that certainly in terms of isolationism, it does come into the right-wing debate here in europe as it does into america, because it's the, question about, do we support ukraine or do we not support ukraine? >> do we focus our own internal issues? so it all plays into the same thing. so certainly in terms of putin's and she's wider strategy to assert themselves and fill the vacuum on the global stage. the right-wing helps because it brings all the western allies into a more national frame of mind if you like, and less involved in international affairs are very interesting. all right, max foster for us my than london max are 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up to $750,000 for the three charges. >> but as a first-time offender, he is likely to receive a lesser sentence he also was facing another trial on the horizon, hunter biden's tax trial is set to start on september 5th, joining me now, criminal defense attorney andrew tarkovsky. andrew, good morning to you. thank you so much for being here. can you talk us through what is i likely sentence in this case for the gun charge alone, it is not likely that he will see jail time if you run the federal sentencing calculator, you can get somewhere between about six to ten months as the recommended sentence. >> but that's well within the area of when judges give some sort of more probationary type of sentence that doesn't have jail time. the problem for hunter is that this conviction, even if it doesn't see jail time on its own, that combined with the september tax trial, if he's convicted of that, would most certainly result in some degree of jail time likely in the neighborhood of a number of years. this conviction would be used as an aggravate are in that case as a factor that would increase the sentence under the guidelines really interesting, what what are the potential sentencing? what would he be looking at if he's convicted on these on these tax charges realistically, that put them at tenure. just give me a little bit more context on what what that could mean. >> this is an interesting tax case where he has paid his taxes since, but had gone on for a number of years, not only just not paying the taxes but also there's many kind of underlying issues with the way in which he was reporting the taxes, what he was saying he was paying the taxes on versus what he was actually spending his money on. so there are layers of those tax issues at hand. if he's convicted of everything, this is the case that could be generally in the single digits type of years of confinement, i would see a generally in the two to five range, but it's a very difficult number to give you a good idea of at this stage since we don't know what he's convicted of and the federal sentencing guidelines which were once effectively mandatory, are now discretionary. and so it's more of a guidepost. this type of case, tho i think would be in the low single-digits of years of confinement still interesting that there could be repercussions from this case even if there's no jail time here that we could really dramatically affect the outcome there. so can we talk for a second about how the jury made this decision because we are actually and i'm interested to know why you think we're hearing so much from the jurors? >> as it's come out of that we saw some of spoken on camera to other networks this was what one told up politico. they said the defense's decision to call biden's daughter, naomi, to the stand, didn't help his case. i thought it was a mistake. the juror told reporters on tuesday, i think it was probably a strategy they shouldn't have done no daughters should have to testify against her dad at what do you make of what the jurors have come out and said about how they reached this verdict. >> well, i think it reflects generally the idea that hunter biden was pretty dead to rights the evidence against him was so overwhelming that they had to get to this conviction, but we still see the jurors have sympathy for him. they see this. it sounds like as a relatively minor criminal offense, which it is in scope of federal law and federal criminal prosecutions that typically take place. but that's not necessarily for the jury to decide how serious is this offense. it's a question of what's the evidence actually show us and what's the law say? what the jury isn't essentially debating upon is the impact that's had to the family. the back to those around they seem to indicate this idea that they're hoping that he gets clean and sober go through his rehab. that's all this sort of sympathy that perhaps the defense kind of put forward hoping for a different outcome, whether that was an effort by the defense to actually have jury nullification. we now know that the jury themselves were immune to that. they saw this for what it was calling it a more minor offense. but nonetheless, coming back with the verdict that they say was justice fired by the evidence all right. >> andrew truck ascii for us this morning, andrew. thank you very much for that. >> thank you it's good politics now the matchup is set. >> nevada's incumbent senator democrat jacky rosen will face republican sam brown in the general election this fall. nevada shaping up to be one of the most important states this election cycle as democrats look to hang out on to their razor thin control of the senate. when everyone votes in november, brown is a purple heart recipient and viewed as a rising star among republicans. >> and so it is tonight we continue to deliver health care to dream is not dead it was now, dad and the marriage of nine-member giovani jacky rosen begins to end tonight as we celebrate tonight, we're not celebrating my campaign for senate we celebrate our campaign for nevada joining me now, do you see correspondent for the nevada independent, gabby birnbaum. >> gabby. good morning to you so this race, of course, at critical because the senate is literally on a knife edge, right? so every single race matters talk a little bit about me. first of all, he's clearly adopted this dark rhetoric that the trump campaign has about the state of america. this is not the optimistic city on a hill type of message that you would have heard from a ronald reagan era republican. >> but this does i do think there are some republicans here in washington who think that this was a good outcome. >> how did this play out? >> yeah. i mean, republicans, like he said, this is the senate, hangs on literally any one of these seats for democratic incumbents that could flip and republicans would have control the senate. so they've had this nevada matchups they're called for years in 2022 was the closest senate race in the country. and so as sam brown, this is who the nrsc, i'm the national republican senatorial committee. this is who jaylen florida. they're publican governor of nevada. this is the guy they wanted and they got their guy last night by like 44 points in the primary. so it was never really a doubt but yeah. i mean, like you mentioned this, he talks a lot about we don't have an american dream anymore. it's an american nightmare. it reminds me a lot of the american carnage sort of trump first inaugural speech. and i think it shows that question for brown and for all of these challenges this will be how do you appeal to the base that's very pro-trump in states like nevada, where trump hasn't one and pulling this cycle shows maybe this is the year that he does it. but how do you sort of know that this is how you win a primary. this is how you appeal to people while also knowing in nevada it's the non-partisan voters, the independence who you really need to get to that 50% threshold. we've seen in, in some states that democratic senate, and this is actually backwards from what you sometimes see in other election cycles. but the democratic senate candidates seem to be running ahead of president biden. is that the case in nevada yes. so i mean, you've seen polls were biden's down by double-digits and rose up like plus one i've seen polls where trump is up five and rosen's also up five. that'd be a level of ticket-splitting and i looked into this and the data does have a pretty significant history of ticket-splitting, but it wasn't a different time when that was just way more for comment. in o for bush won by three points and harry reid, one by 35 points or something. that's very raid specific situation would have been a little yeah. itself, but i think as politics has become more nationalized, as nevada sort of local political culture of boosting incumbents in the senate no matter what, as a small state as that's sort of given way to this national political discourse that's so hyper-partisan. i would be surprised if the split ends up being that big in my mind. who's a trump rozi and voter? it's hard to think of who this person might be. but yes, certainly rozi, like other candidates, is running ahead of biden ben. and so i think it'll be a question for brown now of how do i get these voters who think they're going to vote for trump are considering trump, but might be skeptical of me. how do i speak to them so let's i'm talking across. >> nevada was not the only state that help primers last night. we also had one in south carolina and the primary that was being most closely watched was nancy mace, who of course, voted to oust former house speaker kevin mccarthy. and mccarthy had made it a project to try to get the second name on that screen over the finish line, catherine templeton challenged nancy mace in this it's a charleston area, south carolina district so mace came out on top here. how much of an embarrassment is that for mccarthy? >> i mean, look, i think it's curious to see what mccarthy we'll do next, right. those rumors that if trump wins, he could be chief of staff or something. i think it just shows that once you're out of congress, you're out of congress, right? here lewin's is somewhat limited in what you can do. he's been trying to behind the scenes enact some sort of revenge on the people who took him down. mace, i think particular really got under his skin because his office had tried to help her with her legislative priorities. there was a good long piece of slate. this week all about sort of her interesting political demeanor. but yeah, confused a lot of people for sure. but i guess, i guess voters and south carolina's first district still felt good about it. so yeah, i do think for mccarthy, like i said, once you're out, you're out with congress yeah. >> i before i let you go, i want to touch on what we could see play out in the house today. there is some reporting that we have here at cnn that there are a handful of house republicans who are privately voiced concerns about a plan to hold merrick garland in contempt of congress. but they did announce last night they're going to go forward with this vote today. what do you expect on the floor? >> i think that'll be interesting. i mean, the fact that there's all these reports, the reports that they might have pulled it, the fact that there budding the vote on the floor, i mean, this is not a republican whip team that's been uber successful in exactly where the votes are. so i don't think anyone will be surprised if it were to fail typically, i think but the moderates have been upset about something they usually do, keep it off the floor. they're pretty open with leadership about their concerns. they're not right. the freedom caucus, i'm not trying to wreak havoc on the floor. so the fact that they are bringing is a floor or i mean, we'll see i think this is the closer we get to the election, the more and more people are not going to want to take tough votes, particularly on such hyper-partisan things like rice this is a tough thing for some of the more moderate, moderate republicans in the house. all right, gabby, thank you very much for your time appreciate it. i come up next year, talks to end the war in gaza in serious doubt this morning after a response from hamas plus the man is facing a must wins situation in dallas tonight, which report reviews game three coming up violent burst would liev schreiber sunday at night on cnn you know what's brilliant think about it. >> boring is the unsung catalyst for bolt. what straps bold do a rocket hurdles and into space, or boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start off because it's smart, dependable, and steady all words you want from your bank for nearly 160 years, pnc bank has been brilliantly boring. >> so you can be happily fulfilled, which is pretty boring if you think about it. >> wow there are giant so mug they are 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proposal. talks are expected to continue through qatari and egyptian mediators in coordination with the us to see if an agreement can be reached. here was blinken yesterday before hamas is response everyone has said yes except for hamas and if hamas doesn't say yes, then this is clearly plea on them all right. >> told me not to discuss the un global affairs analyst kim dozer. kim, good morning to you. thank you so much for being here. >> are reporting. is that hamas did submit a response proposing amendments to the israeli proposal, adjustments to the or adding a timeline for a permanent ceasefire. and with thrall from gaza, this there seems to be an awful lot of fog around where each side stands on this proposal at all. can you kind of try to help us understand clearly where are the israelis on this? are they a definitive yes. and what this means from hamas that we saw yesterday today there's one key part of this peace deal that the ceasefire deal that each side keeps trying to change hamas wants to include some sort of permanent ceasefire in the deal what they have, what they've been offered right now is phases six weeks was submit exchange, and a temporary ceasefire that then becomes permanent after some negotiations midway through they don't want that the israelis meanwhile benjamin netanyahu government he cannot say yes to a deal that has a permanent ceasefire in it because that will instantly dissolve his government. the hard-right members of his coalition have threatened to pull out if he signs up any deal that has a permanent ceasefire in it. so that's why you've got a lot of stuff decided on the edges. but this one key point hamas wants to be able to survive and keep fighting and netanyahu's political survival is based on making sure hamas can't do that. therein lies the crux of the matter so what is the way out of that? but it's very hard to see it way out of that. >> that's why the original deal as the white house had shared with the world, has these phases where you get a bunch of the hostages back, you get prisoner exchanges. so that was sweetening it for the palestinian side that they get some of their hardline prisoners out and then you use that momentum of that progress to get through the second stage of the deal. so that perhaps netanyahu could then go back to his hardline coalition and go back to israel haley public and say see, i got all so many of the hostages out. now, it's time to have an off-ramp for this, but you got to agree to the first part to get to that second kim, let's talk about the sort of broader tensions in the region because we have seen slit, escalating back-and-forth between israel and lebanon. the washington post says it's a war that's unfolding in slow motion. and rockets are being launched from lebanon toward israel. how concerned should we be at this point? but this is going to tip into something more significant all along, it seems that the overall strategy of iran, which is supporting hezbollah and supporting hamas, has been to turn the tension up when israel is already on the back foot, just to keep exhausting its army the israeli army has having to go back to certain parts of gaza that it had said it had cleared already, and all of a sudden up in the north, there's an uptick in fighting. >> it's stretching and exhausting the army and pointing out to israel that if you want to keep going on these two fronts, it's going to cost you more in manpower and eventually in tax dollars because they don't have enough of a standing army to keep up this fight at this point. and that has put pressure on the israeli people to think about, do we? want to be doing this forever? and what that would cost? >> yeah. i mean, and what does that mean politically for netanyahu? i mean, is he coming under pressure from people? i mean, obviously israel israel as conscription mandatory service in their country. that's got to put some pressure on him. know, there's local israel issue specifically regarding that secular israelis are upset that for the most part, very religious israelis are allowed to opt out of military service. >> and there's been a fight to make more of them find, to find some way to draft more of them. into the ongoing fight. and that has been working its way through the israeli knesset but the hard-right members of netanyahu's coalition have said, if you force, are religious people to fight we will pull out. so again, netanyahu's caught between the secular folks. so he needs to win the next election and the coalition members he needs to stay in government cheerful. kim toes, you're for us this morning. thank you. i really appreciate your time. >> all right. so now for sports, do or die in dallas for the maths tonight the nba finals, andy scholes has this morning's police report and good morning. good morning. case. it's only game three, but the mass they have to win excuse me, they have to win tonight because notes, even me hey, history while struggling, i've ever 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chambers hopes this is one step toward politicians actively campaigning for voters behind bars in clark county. >> you have potential victory is lying in those sales at least for now. >> i want to i guess is it makes a huge difference night, i step toward voters like elliot carver hall, having their voices heard it felt a little bit of empowerment, a little, just a little bit, a little tiny bit sara marie joins us now from las vegas. >> so this is the first time these voting booths had been used. how did the process go? >> it went pretty smoothly, although there were voters who showed up to vote and found out they were actually registered in a different county or in some cases, in a different state which is indication of the education gap that still exist for those who are behind bars. there were dozens of folks who wanted to vote from the jail today and we expect that that's cut number is going to be even larger when we get to the general election in november. this was sort of a dry run for the big event coming up, anderson be interesting to do polling and see if they're running for sara marie. >> thanks. the news continues right here on cnn outfront. next, breaking news, president biden, now it is son side behind closed doors after you're biden was found guilty today. >> and if federal gun case, tonight, a member of the jury who helped convict biden speaks out. you'll hear plus more breaking news this our federal agents arresting eight people from tajikistan with two suspected ties. i'm sorry to isis after they entered the us through the southern border, tonight, we're going to take you to one of the dead please. stretches of that border. >> and martha and alitos secretly recorded threatening to put up more flags to counter the quote pride flag. >> that's going up nearby. >> her neighbor, who's at the center of the controversy over alitos flags is outfront tonight. >> let's go out front and good evening. i'm marion burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, president biden rushing to his sons, sayyed tonight. hunter biden greeting his father on the tarmac of the delaware air national guard base just hours after hunter biden was found guilty on all counts of lying about being addicted to drugs when he bought a gun today's verdict historic hunter biden is now the first child, sitting president to be convicted of a crime. and the first family is now grappling with the fallout of the jury's verdict. >> a verdict that came incredibly quickly, just three hours so fast. >> in fact, it caught almost everyone off guard. firstly, jill biden, who was attended the trial almost every day. been commuting back and forth from france was unable to get into the courtroom and time to hear the verdict yourself. and according to people who were there inside that room, hunter biden stared straight ahead as the verdict was read, stone-faced, showing little emotion. afterwards, though he could be seen hugging family members a close biden family friend, fran person who was with the bidens today gives us this statement tonight out front says there was nothing but love in that room with hunter after the verdict. abbe lowell and his team put up the best defense he could ask for hunter was incredibly strong and gracious. look at how good hunter looks today. sober, going on for years. it is remarkable how far he's come and he will be a powerful force story of redemption and hope for attics and their families that love conquers all. now, hunter biden could face up to 25 years in prison and a fine of up to $750,000 in a moment, we're going to hear from one of the jurors about the discussions that took place inside that jury room and those few hours of debating as the 12 men and women deliberated it really is incredible when you take a step back here, you've got the president's done, just found guilty, criminally, less than two weeks after former president trump was found guilty and is now a convicted felon both are now awaiting sentencing. and yet the reactions from biden and trump could not be more different just hours after his son was found guilty, president biden spoke to the nation's largest gun control groups. so he's actually i had a gun control group. he did not mention his sons conviction. he did not talk about a corrupt judge or rigged trial or which time. instead, he released this statement separate from his speech. i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. priscilla alvarez is out front. she is live in wilmington, delaware and evan perez is outside the courthouse. i want to start with you, though, priscilla, because i know you've got some new reporting on this last-minute trip by president biden to delaware. so what is the biden family doing right now? how did this all come together as far as your learning era and the president and his family are huddling behind closed doors here in their residents wilmington tonight after the president rights only hours ago and was greeted by his son, hunter on the tarmac. >> now, this was a last-minute trip with sources telling cnn that it was floated late monday night, but came together after the verdict was reached and finalize with the president arriving here again, only a couple well hours ago. but of course this is a family that has often come together over the course of the trial. the first lady in the courtroom, multiple times as these legal proceedings were underway and even coming back from france briefly to attend the trial. and that really underscores the delicate and difficult balance that this president has had to strike with his foreign travel in recent days. and also as these deeply painful family moments, we're planning out in this trial and publicly now, the president did release the statement earlier today, and it was a statement that was frayed seen through the lens of a father, not so much a president where he talks about the resiliency of his son, but also said that he would accept the outcome of the case of the president has previously firm that he would not pardon his son. now, also, hearing wilmington is the biden campaign headquarters and sources telling us that as far as tonight, it is business as usual usual for this very sensitive and delicate issue for the biden family. >> all right. priscilla, thank you very much. in wilmington. and i'd want to go to evan perez now because he's been in the courtroom throughout this trial every day you've watched the jurors you've watched the biden family there and i know you just spoke to one of those jurors, evan, what did he tell you well, erin this is? >> juror number ten. he's man in his stuff, these terms his from southern the southern part of delaware. and one of the things that we heard from the defense team as we were going through this trial was they believed that politics had a role in why hunter biden was even facing these charges. he said the defense team believe that the us attorney who was appointed by donald trump was essentially bullied into going after hunter because of criticism from house republicans and republicans in general. >> i asked the juror number ten, who did not want to be to show his face on television, whether their politics played any role in these deliberations. >> listen to what he had to say if anybody, was in that courtroom or in the jury room, they would know it was not motivated by politics politics played no part whatsoever in my mind no. >> i can't speak for the other jurors but nothing was nothing was ever said about this election year that was never brought up and aaron, we also he also told me that that the gun form that hunter biden signed back in october of 2018 when he bought the firearm that was the crucial piece of evidence in his mind and he believe that hunter biden lied when he signed it, and none of the other evidence from the from the from the defense to try to explain it away, really worked on the part of the jury one of the things that may come up by the defense team, they do they are weighing an appeal of this of this verdict is the fact that jurors never got to see a second oppression at that form, because the judge did not allow it. >> and so i asked the juror whether he believed that that would have made a difference. he said it would not have aaron sheep all right. i evan, thank you very much. outside that courthouse and having a chance to speak to turn number ten, which was obviously so fast thing is we'd we'd heard about the jury and their reactions and who they are all right. >> i'm a panel with me now, katie rogers, i want to start with you because you have covered the biden family closely for a long time at the new york times and now we're seeing the president arrive in delaware, greeting his son. what are your sources telling you about how this has impacted president biden personally? >> well, i think everyone who has spoken to me who is close to the president and close to the bidens. they always really reiterate to me how much the president believes in his sons ability to stay sober. he's very proud on that level of his son and they always stressed to me that, yes, he is worried about the legal problems ahead for hunter biden, but he believes in his son's ability to continue his recovery. now, that said, the people close to him say that this is the thing that more than anything else he wakes up. if he's briefed by aids on gaza, the next immediate get thing is about his son or he is constantly in contact with his son. they speak at least once a day. so this is something that is going to add more weight to the president's mindset. he's already been quite worried about these legal problems, never having an end for his son. and this just adds to that, right? >> it didn't certainly at a crucial time in this case campaign. congressman buck, i wanted to play something else for you that juror number ten shared with evan perez about hunter biden. let me play it i did have empathy for him, for his addiction i don't wish that on anybody and especially correct. okay. let me let was the has to be a terrible dickson it comes from i think just significant that that juror says that after they unanimously convicted him on all counts. >> right. but still able to have that human empathy and obviously a lot of americans can relate to that who are dealing with this themselves or with others and their families, some sort sort of addiction the president though is to deal with the political side of this. do you think that he has managed this? appropriately as a father and as a president congressman yeah, i do. >> i think it's very difficult. you look at your son having an addiction like bad. the federal government, the congress obviously passed this law because folks who are addicted to drugs and buy guns are more likely to commit crimes. so certainly not a hunter biden category necessarily, but i think the joe biden president biden has done a great job of trying to stay above the fray and recognizing that his department of justice was a very difficult position attorney general merrick garland appointed a special counsel's so that that council would be independent and render independent judgment. and i think that people look at this case and recognize that it was done in an independent and fair way the idea that there may have been other crimes are really irrelevant. >> this this defendant totter biden, got a fair trial, a quick jury verdict, and i think that joe biden made the right statements after the verdict ryan, the thing is this this is not done for hunter biden or for joe biden, the whole family, right? >> he can still appeal just even on this case, i'm i'm talking separately from the tax case, which is very serious. but on this case alone, is this going to drag out for the remainder of election between sentencing appeals and all kinds of this process 100% because he's going to both appeal on the grounds that certain evidence should not have been excluded from the defense. >> and he's going to appeal on the grounds that under the second amendment, the constitution, that this particular criminal provision should be invalid and none of that is going to be sewed up before november. in fact, we'll probably at least a year from now before any of that gets stored up, even conservatively speaking, well, even conservatively speaking. >> all right, so that's a long time, katie, and it's certainly shows in terms of weighing on the president all the way through the election way beyond, but through the election i mentioned how joe biden, the first lady, was not able to get there in time today because happened so quickly. >> she wasn't actually able to be in the courtroom for the verdict but she was there almost every day. hunter sister was there is on its uncle a lot of other family members, his daughter testified ex girlfriends wives and we've seen support from almost all of them on hunter and he's recovery. it has been something that clearly has damaged and hurt this family for a long time. they've struggled with it what does the conviction mean, katie, for the whole family? >> i mean i think that this family has dealt a hunter biden has detailed his addictions over the years in various ways, whether it's through a memoir, through a lengthy magazine profile. but for the rest of this family, it's been a really long private, painful battle as we saw, this week during and last week during the trial. sorry these members of the biden family, onetime members of the biden family in current members recounted what was essentially they had all described as a held that they were in with him and a conviction is really the first time this very private battle has been laid bare for public consumption. so it's uncomfortable for them and they have had to sit there and here the shrapnel hit them yet again of hunter biden's choices have had to sit there and listen to him in his own words through his memoir, recount his drug use is a painful time for them congressman buck, president biden was asked about whether he would pardon his son right? on this crucial point, i want to play that exchange. it was with david muir let me, ask you will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict no matter what it is? >> yes. >> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes. >> you have congressman buck, how do you feel about this when he's saying that to show he believes in the system and he's not going to question it with a witch-hunt to rigged and all that, right? >> clearly, it is his son how do you feel? >> does he have to take this all the way to the mat? no. pardon? no commutation of his prison sentence, which by the way, he did not he did. not commit to or or do you think it would be appropriate and not hurt belief in the system if he were to commute his son sentence i don't think president biden wouldn't do anything until after the appeals are finished. number one, and that's going to happen after the election so he's going to have much more flexibility after the election whether he wins or loses to make a decision like this. now, if he were to engage in a pardon of president trump with president trump was victims of a federal crime at the same time that he pardon his own son. i think americans would understand a father doing that but i think he made the right statement at the time and that is i'm not going to show preferential treatment to a member of my own family and a quick final word, ryan, just to be clear that this would go another year, you also have a very serious yes tax evasion charge, federal charge in california, which would carry significant present time that is underway. >> that's right. and the justice department said that it could carry up to 17 years in jail. and what's unfortunate for hunter biden is because you didn't do a plea deal. he will now have to convictions potentially steck up against each her to us sentencing guideline. the conviction that he just got today in delaware would count against him. he will not be a first-time offender if he is convicted in california. >> right. which could affect sentencing. i thank you very much. ryan. katie, and congressman, i appreciate all of you very much next trump and his supporters called the doj rigged and political. so what are they saying tonight? 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joe biden there are those some republicans who are coming to hunter biden's defense team format is outfront this is the first time that hunter biden has faced responsibility and consequences for his actions, political spinners on the right are spinning out of control in all directions. biden's calling the conviction of hunter biden a step toward accountability and kinda dumb and saying things like hunter biden might deserve jail for something, but purchasing a gun is not it. why is this verdict so confounding for the right? first, it is about a gun or some conservative politicians and advocates opposing gun restrictions. the case against hunter biden was an invitation to attack as father. >> so long as this president continues to use every tool at his disposal to harass and criminalized guns gun owner there's and gun dealers, his son should be receiving the same treatment and scrutiny as all of us. let's just do a little more shooting over here but other gun enthusiasts, while not fans of the bidens, leave the law in this case is unconstitutional. as a matter of principle i do not believe the hunter biden should be convicted of that anymore. that anyway well, now should hunter biden is not talking, but he is walking in right now second, this wasn't the case. >> republicans wanted for years. they have talked without evidence far-reaching foreign corruption, secret payoffs, and influence peddling tied all the way to the top. so after this verdict, the trump campaign quickly issued a statement this trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the biden crime family. and lastly, this verse predict came just a dozen days after donald trump himself was convicted of 34 felonies, even as he appeals a course, republicans have joined him in calling the courts corrupt their case against president trump has been a witch hunt from the beginning. this was not criminal justice. >> the entire thing is political, but now some conservative seem to be squirming, suggesting hunter biden's conviction must be a ruse. posting timing is everything. this is the veil of fairness in the justice system. so maybe it is a measure of how twisted up the right is on how to respond to all of this. that when the trump team put out that statement after the verdict and much i made all those crazy claims about the biden family. they then send out an edited version shortly thereafter because the first version at the end so they wish hunter biden well. and then in the edited version, they had dropped the well wishes. they didn't fix the false claims. they just dropped the well wishes clearly, this has the republican right saying, what are we supposed to do on this? because there are cross purposes on so many issues, aaron. yeah. i mean, well, you know, you say it's a rigged system when your guy's guilty and then the other guy's guilty and then all of a sudden what he is supposed to say. maybe they could have foreseen that possibility. all right. tom, form. and thank you very much. i want to go now to ty cobb, a former trump white house lawyer. so tie i mean, can you believe hunter biden gets convicted on all counts by a jury in a case brought originally by a special counsel who trump initially appointed us attorney somehow, it's not fair and square to many in the gop can you believe it oh, yes, i can sort of believe anything. i mean, it's a really crazy de marjorie taylor greene is out there making the rest of us look like geniuses. what she can do on it regular basis yeah. >> i think it takes away from the gravity of the moment which is you know, he he wasn't added. it was a sad situation that was tragic but it wasn't political and keep in mind that he did have the opportunity to take accountability for this year ago and the plea agreement build up then they decided that they would insist on their de and courting and they got it but i think it's i think this is has to be looked at on its own merits. >> so i mean, this was a case the evidence says the jurors juror who was interviewed said was overwhelming and they didn't put politics into it and i just ruled on what they saw, on what they were told, just like trump's urey did. and i think both jury's got it right based on what they were told to do and the evidence that was before them. but i think it is a crazy time because you have the president today. i've given a speech on tighter tighter gun controls. >> yeah. and keeping guns out of the hands of felons and people who don't don't deserve them. and his sons on trial. i think yeah, it's just it's a crazy time in america full of folic contradictions, but, yeah, but this was, this was a sad day and i think it was inappropriate result. i don't think he's going to jail for very long. my off the cuff assessment is scheduled for 1016 months as the first defender and the judge may well go below that and give him a probationary sentence. who knows? yeah. >> it's not going to be a punitive situation and then he does have that serious tax case involving $7.5 million in taxes. so yeah. i mean, that's that and that'll be in september and that'll be in the heart part of the heart of the election. so i think it's very hard for republicans to insist that this is somehow a ruse. >> well, i mean it's sort of amazing. it seems to me that if you did get a guilty verdict here, that this would be something that everyone could say. okay. well, there was it can't say that it's rigged or during goes one way or the other. and yet somehow that there are still some finding a way to say this is basically a veil of as nancy mace said, congresswoman avail of fairness, write that this is all to distract you from it's frightening in some senses, but you mentioned that a convicted felon, right? can i have a gun? and obviously, you know, donald trump and in this context, we found out today tie that he disclosed in his probation interview that he had three guns. now he acquired them legally. obviously, he is now prohibited from having any as a convicted felon were you surprised at all but to hear that donald trump own three guns not really. >> and i think all the people are hyperventilating on this a little bit. i mean, it's it's sort of ordinary that it would come up in this context particularly for somebody donald trump it's not carrying a gun i never saw him carry ganim, didn't know him to ever carry a gun. he's got to see as a concealed carry registration in new york, but you're right. >> that's what he had and i understand that, and i think he obviously has these guns and he's going to have to pony him up but that's what that's really what this process is designed to do is to get all that, all that, all those requirements out of the way before he couldn't run afoul of any other laws after the time of being sentenced up, tied before you go. also today, trump asked aileen cannon, the judge in florida, mar-a-lago, to dismiss the classified documents case. and if she didn't do that, he asked her to throw it any evidence gathered during the fbi search of mar-a-lago? >> which sort of confusing and confounding because that appears to be the entire case as far as most of us understand it that's actually much of the case. >> it's actually not quite the entire case, but it's it's most of the documents, yes. that we're included in the indictment and the worst thing that could happen to him is that she actually does it in advance of trial because that will certainly be reversed abruptly by the 11th circuit and giving them the opportunity i'm for that. they're dying for given the circus that she puts on to remover. >> all right. we'll tie. thank you very much. as always thank you, aaron tax. and next new secret recordings tonight of justice alito's wife talking about conversations with her husband about political flag it's at their homes like, oh, please don't put up a black alito's neighbor who is at the center of the dispute with the alitos is out front but next, plus breaking news, 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outside their vacation home. here's part of what martha and alito said cnn has not obtained the full of audio you know what i want, i want sacred heart of jesus flag because i had to look cross the lagoon at the price the flag for the next month exactly. i made a flag in my head. this is how i satisfy myself. i made a flag is white and it's yellow and orange flames around it and in the middle is the word but goniometer that gunja in italian means shane gone yet vii car g, g they're gone shame, shame, shame anyway wow, shame, shame, shame on you spelling it out like that. >> such vehemence about the gay pride flag. >> those comments were secretly recorded by a liberal activist, journalists lauren windsor, who misrepresented herself to me this is alito as a sympathetic and like-minded admire her, but she recorded these conversations and we now know what was set out in front. >> now, emily baden, a former neighbor of the alitos in northern virginia. she's the person justice alito says provoked his wife and to flying the inverted american flag after a verbal dispute between the two a claim emily says is false and is backed up by police reports, which showed that the dispute actually happened weeks after the flag went up. so emily, i'm glad to see you again what's your reaction now you hear this audio, you hear martha and alito a voice, you know, because you had conversations with her and she's saying she's going to fly these flags spelling this out, that she's going to fly a flag very gunja, and she spells it out. every letter to say shame that she wants to fly a flag against the gay pride flag. >> yes an erin excuse me. >> thank you so much for having me again, it's great to be with you again my first reaction to hearing this audio i think was the same as most other folks, which was absolute horror if there's one thing that is the basic job description of a supreme court justice. it is to remain impartial and with the upside-down flag, with the appeal to heaven flag samuel alito has shown that he is not impartial and yeah, hearing martha and talk about that, it's interesting because i was used as a scapegoat for why she flew the other flag and we know clearly that that's not true and she says you, you obviously interacted with her and in very negative circumstances at one point, which i'll ask about in a moment, but she when you hear her tone of voice here, that she's going to fly this flag against the gay pride flag that says virgo anya in italian means shame. >> and she says it and then she spells it out. she hits every single letter virgo kn. yes. she says again and then she says, shame, shame on you did that tone sound like the same woman, the same tone that you'd heard yes it was defiance. >> it was just very, very clear that she wishes shame upon the lgbtq community and yeah, i definitely recognized the tone for sure. >> so that secretly recorded conversation went on for about six minutes. at one point, mrs. alito said her husband asked her to stop flying flags and she said she would do it temporarily. i want and to play that part of the exchange for you, emily, here it is nazis believed that he should control the hell. do you never can tell and he's like please don't put up a flag. >> i can i won't do it because i'm deferring to you but when you are free of this nonsense i'm putting it up and i'm going to send them a message every day, maybe every week the change in the flag's, there'll be all kinds i mean, look, she you talked about how she glare at you, called you a fascist. she spat on your car. i know that you have said you regretted calling her, that that vulgar epithet but when you hear this audio, is this this is consistent with the woman that you interacted with it is. >> and i think it's only fair for me to point out that mr. and mrs. alito are essentially strangers to me and my my interactions with them are very limited. so i can't really make any type of comment on you know, they're their attitude or their mental state or just aside from the facts of what i witnessed and what i experienced, and i just want to bring that back to the facts of this whole situation that he showed allegiance to january 6, he showed allegiance to christian nationalism and it's just very dangerous for our democracy. and i think he opinion value are secular. >> he wrote, it, wrote an opinion actually, after a year after the upside flag was flown and it was actually about flags flying outside boston city hall i just wanted to read the operative leinz. again, this is after he himself had known these flags were flying at his homes. and he says, a passerby on cambridge street confronted with a flag, flag flanked by government flags standing just outside the entrance of boston seat of government would likely conclude that all of those flags convey some message on the government's behalf. >> so it's clear he's saying if they fly the flag than any reasonable person would think that you support what that flag stands for. >> and yet he's saying it's not the case when they fly at his own home is there any doubt in you did interact with him and i know he didn't really speak. you didn't say much in those interactions but is there any doubt in your mind that a supreme court justice sees the hypocrisy here so he must see the hypocrisy and maybe just doesn't care it seems to me that their behavior and these words maybe they feel like they're above the law. >> and a lot of ways they are. we don't have an enforceable code of ethics for the supreme court they essentially police themselves and that ruling is really important because it only proves me right, and it proves all of us, right? who think that he of course knew about the flags. of course, he he endorsed them and him making those statements to congress that oh, my wife did it. i don't know about it. oh, i did it because of a neighbor. those are lies and this is important for our country. we need to, we need to hold our elected officials accountable, 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outfront while this is a. larger group here, let's see she's asking us if it's much longer to reach asylum. so what this does documents in hand and this family desperate to find border patrol does they've been walking through a yes. they've been walking for three days obviously, she's very emotional, says there's no food, there's no way when you think we're in a remote part of the arizona mexico border, getting here, not easy, took us about two-and-a-half hours from tucson. much of the drive off road with no cells signal and yet as desolate as this part of the border might seem, the trash and close literary in the gravel tell a different story. >> we find makeshift encampments were migrants, shield themselves from the scorching sun and wait for border patrol to pick them up she said three board. >> of ritual past about a little more than three hours ago and they assume they pick coming back and go, but they haven't seen them yet. >> this family fleeing cartel death threats and kidnappings were surprised hearing where they're from illness on negative limit heiko, mexico. >> and as we drive on, we meet another they make windows towards an encampment further down they may go from he's saying there's a bunch more that are coming from from mexico and he said, after the election of particular i felt the motivation to leave fearing the corruption and the lack of work. >> see what we end up steam because it's late getting near sunset, there's a huge and camp and mostly children a non-profits at this camp up for migrants who've just cross are saying, please wait here, immigration is going to come and get you here and actually have wifi setup. most everyone here mexican what's up candy he said that they've been getting a lot of threats and they said it was sort of the reason of the elections, it didn't vote for as they put it, the candidate who ended up winning on june 2, mexicans voted and local, state and presidential elections that campaign season proved violent and deadly. even the roman, she says that the reason they left us for reasons of security, which she says as now, everybody that we see here is from mexico, but they might not be in the us for law just days after mexico's elections, the biden administration took executive action on the order allowing first swift deportation of most migrants after a daily cap is reached. in nogales, arizona, we see those deportations up close. >> we counted probably a dozen people altogether most of them kids, about eight kids from what we could see getting off that bus and border patrol agents then escorting them directly flee to the border. and they'll continue walking them over right into mexico. what do you think does executive orders that going to do anything more in a rare encounter, we meet a border patrol agent eager to vent he asked us to mask his identity. worried, he'll be fired for talking to openly does it frustrate you when you hear that when you hear the narrative like wire border patrol doing anything don't blown off the mecole one he blames the current administration but isn't any more hopeful with the alternative, really to learn we meet others also frustrated by border policy, though, for more personal reasons. is, is this the only way that you can get face-to-face? >> yeah. litter carla pachinko crossed illegally nearly 30 years ago. she's recently gotten her work permit, but it's still waiting on a green card. >> i can be within the us how the mexico side that's her dad, freddie, who crossed illegally and was deported more than a decade back. they and other families meet here every couple of months to catch up. when's the last time you got to hug your dad? >> 15, 16 years ago. >> when you think about what's happening at the border now what what goes through your mind? >> yeah, well, it's unfair because we've been waiting what has been 20 years, 20 six years, and nothing nothing was being here paying my taxes and not owing anything, no tickets or nothing. yeah. i don't get anything out of it. >> while washington focuses on illegal crossings and asylum claims cases like carlos have been put on the back back burner for decades, it's still freddie. >> once his next crossing to be done, laughlin, i wanted to take you write everything, you know with my passport every in legal even if it means waiting years, though it will happen the way i can wait await for border patrol at this remote section of the arizona mexico border unbearable for some. >> and so you're going to keep walking where cartel back smugglers often mislead migrants to think that once they've crossed the hard part's over, it's not a struggled to push on and triple-digit heat kliger, the border wall for balance and shade ahead of them, i'll seemingly endless stretch of hills to climb aaron, i want to go back to that breaking news you mentioned just a few minutes ago those individuals was suspected ties to isis who were arrested, believed to have crossed over the us southern border. it's something i'd actually asked our border patrol agent that we had connected with somebody who is very candid and open and he was concerned about some of the folks who are coming in. he said, look, the vast majority sure. are women and children and he said, that it's heartbreaking. but they in turn can distract from nefarious activities that might become an cross including potential terrorists. he said, it's terrifying for him and it's for that reason, aaron, that he does not want his signature on any of those release forms. >> wow. that's really credible. and honestly amazing that you able to speak to him and admirable that he was able to both be honest, but yet he wasn't didn't express kind of rage or anger at anyone fastening and what he said about trump and biden not being satisfied with either all right. thank you so much. david culver for that spectacular reporting next to the us is now track king russian warships packed with high precision weapons that are just off the coast 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ship, he adds quote, i was surprised how close they are. we're not that far offshore meantime, in moscow, russian state television is touting the deployment of the ships off the us coast as tensions increase with the us and matthew chance is out front from moscow tonight these are the first images of the russian flotilla steaming towards cuba, just 90 miles off the us coast the russian defense ministry says the strike group including a nuclear powered submarine, the qizan, armed with modern caliber cruise missiles practicing the use of high precision weapons. >> but it's really about putin flexing his muscles on the international stage led by the flagship of russia just northern fleet, the admiral golf cough, which russia's defense ministry says is normally equipped with latest zircon hypersonic missiles this is meant to deliver a powerful message to washington russian state television has been celebrating than evil deployment, placing some of russia's most powerful vessels in cuban waters. >> i boil and accordion. >> the american media, has been discussing the event, reports, the russian news anchor claiming the pentagon has no idea where our submarine is positioned. in fact us officials or downplaying any threat. but moscow has been signaling displeasure that washington recently green light getting ukrainian attacks on russian territory with us supplied-weapons speaking ahead of the cube and naval visit, vladimir putin warned of a possible russian response. >> easley, and you put it today in the west lai weapons to the zone of combat operations and call for the use of these weapons against our territory. then why do we not have the right to do the same? to mirror these actions? i'm not ready to say that we'll do it tomorrow, but we of course, should think about it elsewhere moscow has been stepping up tactical nuclear drills to staging exercises with neighboring belarus near the ukrainian border. >> russian tactical nukes delivered from either ground or air can 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correctly that it's the next big thing and they're making a very similar bet right now in the world of robotics. so as that begins to take off, they're gonna continue to be ahead of everybody. >> phidias value just tripled from 1 trillion to 3 trillion in under a year but video doesn't actually manufacture anything. they outsource that. they design still. >> this is now the second largest corporation on our planet with all our futures in its manicured hands toward holding this is the most complex, highest performance computer the world's ever made. >> that's why you have to care now, in the next few years, the competition is going to heat up in this marketplace for making the chips that train ai. >> but some analysts say that right now nvidia has maybe up to 95% share of that market. they've got a huge head start on their main competitors in intel and amd. amd just launched a new chip in video says are going to launch new chip every year, that 3 trillion valuation and peaceful world column just said maybe that's an undervaluation. >> credible. all right. thank you very much. nick watt and thanks to all of you as always, ac30, 60 starts now tonight on 360 real warriors and people don't. trump is now calling warriors, namely the violent mob that storm the capitol, keeping them on it let's take the difference also tonight, hundred biden's fate now in the hands of a jury, how the defense and prosecution did and making their case. plus the latest in a string of cnn exclusives on deck kids of sexual abuse, the coast guard academy. tonight of coast guard official breaks are silenced and says she was part of what she now calls a cruel coverup. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep romanness with something the former president has been saying a lot lately. and what it says about him. sunday as president biden was visiting the american military cemetery outside paris and frehse, marking the 80th anniversary of d-day and at normandy, donald trump was saying this there's never been people treated more horrifically. then j6 hostages. but those j6 warriors, they were worries but they were really more than anything else. they are victims of what happened all they were doing is protesting a rigged election that's what they were doing and then the police he said, going go in, go in, go in water, set-up. that was that's the former president of the united states sunday in las vegas. and just to refresh your memory, these are the people he was honoring, specifically the ones in prison for crimes they committed on january 6 or jail awaiting trial. and it's certainly not the first time he's called these people hostage. >> ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the horribly at unfairly treated very six toss ditches it's now part of his routine that recording. he standing and saluting four features him saying the pledge but of allegiance while these inmates, whom he calls hostages sing the star spangled banner and calling them hostages in november after actual hostages were taken by hamas reading a daring military operation in gaza after almost eight months of mental and physical torment at the hands of hamas. and we'll have more on that tonight. >> but those are actual hostages. >> trump would have you believe the january 6 inmates are hostages and also warriors and victims? he said that two victims he also claims were invited in by police. so they're warriors and their hostages and their victims. and they're also according to him, lovers the love the love in the year i've never seen anything like it. there was also a loved fast between the police, the capitol police, and the people that walked down to the capital so stir that in with all the rest. and here's the former president is reshaping the attack on the capitol. peaceful protesters full of love invited into the capitol by police who loved them and return, but who somehow tricked them and made them victims, who then turned into warriors who are now being held hostage. let me introduce you to one of these man who's presumably a warrior and trump's size daniel rodriguez, this is his photo was posted on social media by username deepstate dogs. rodriguez was part of the mob that attack police with metal poles and bateson stolen riot shields and chemical spray. and in his case has stun gun. he attacked officer michael fan-owned with it, who later suffered a heart attack and traumatic brain injury rodriguez pleaded guilty like so many others have and was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison. his is one he's one of the people, the former president is calling a hostage. and it shouldn't come as a surprise that trump is unfamiliar with what a warrior actually is. casey is watching, here's one from d-day technician fifth grade john jay pinto junior. he waited through machine gun and artillery fire carrying a vitally important radio assured omaha beach, which he did despite being wounded once then again, making several trips back through enemy fire to get more equipment ashore until he was wounded a third time and died technician pender was awarded the congressional medal of honor posthumously. president trump refused to visit the same cemetery that president biden. so many other presidents have over the years. and according to his former chief of staff, from being corps general john kelly, quote in the atlantic, he said, why should i go to that cemetery? it's filled with losers had he gone, he might have learned what being a awarded are truly means separately the former president now a convicted felon, met by video conference today for a pre-sentencing interview with the new york probation officer, joining us tonight, former republican congressman and house january 6, committee member adam kinzinger, also seen an chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, john miller and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe, congressman. first of all, what is your as somebody who is actually serve? what is your reaction to the foreign president calling the riders warriors and hostages and victims? >> i mean, it's. it's thick and disgusting obviously i think we have to be careful to not allow this outrage to just numb us like this really should be. and thank you for putting this at the top of the show. there should be at the top of every new show anywhere in the country at how agreed jus and terrible, this as they're not for years. the ones that went into the capital, most of them, if not all of them, have been arrested and tried. and interestingly, anderson at the beginning when they started to get arrested, they were remorseful. and then this right-wing ecosphere put their arms around them singing the national anthem and stuff and in that process can vince them that they were victims and have made them martyrs and heroes. this is not something americans that aren't completely sold out to the cult should be, should accept and we should have this be a fresh outrage every day when he does stuff like this, it's also entering andrew. i mean, i know some actual warriors. they're not people who usually view themselves as victims or just sort of helpless victims. very often, how dangerous do you think it is for law enforcement and andrew and the public when you are the former president gaslighting his supporters because i mean back in 2022, there was a guy of set about federal authorities searching mar-a-lago for classified documents. he was killed after trying to shoot his way into an fbi field office in ohio. it feels like du the congressman's point the former president just says this stuff and people just kind of ignore it. but i mean it has repercussions potentially yeah. >> so let's get the facts out first on this warriors claim. so as of january 6, 2024, which is most recent numbers, i could find, we've got 1,265 people have been charged in as a part of that january 6 case 718 of them on that by that de had already gone into court. raise your right hand, sworn to tell the truth, then said i did it. i'm guilty to the weather. it's trespassing or obstruction of official procedure or assault on police officers and others. so the idea that these people are somehow being held against their will for political reasons is absolutely absurd. and donald trump knows that's absurd. he knows it because he spent four hours that day watching the video tapes from behind the cloister walls of the white house in the warm embrace of his secret service security team. >> so he knows exactly what happened that day. >> he knows those people were rioters and its direction us and many of them have to their credit stepped up and taken responsibility for that. the thing that i cannot get past anderson is how many people give him a pass for saying absurd and sickening only false things like this. and you're right, these false hoods that he, that he throws out in front of his rallies and supportive it is for political advantage, but it comes with the cost of driving up risk to people in the system, law enforcement prosecutors, and others. and you made the perfect example. ricky schifflin, who was outraged by what he undoubtedly heard the president say after the mar-a-lago raid decided to take it out violently on the fbi's cincinnati field office, that could happen any day anywhere around the country to any fbi agent or other federal officer by somebody similarly misguided. >> also, i'm congressman. it's just i mean, it's kinda it's just i mean, it's sickening that the former president basically saw this so the october 7 hostages being held by hamas and islamic jihad and others as a branding opportunity and i think according the washington post in november's when he started using the term hostages for the for those who have been found guilty of crimes on on january sales x and re-brand braise, branding them january 6, hostages. i mean, it's it's really worked it is really warped in that was various student view to notice is that he never used hostages until there were real hostages. >> some of which are still being held, some have been killed that are being held against their will. i mean, look, i'm probably started with marjorie taylor greene two she she came up with some of that, but i think the biggest thing to take off of what mccabe said is we're all the members of the house and senate, including the ones who after january 6 stood up, lindsey graham, i'm done with this guy. we had a hell of a run, but i'm done you think of like marco rubio, all these people that know better, that just keep their heads down and don't say a word. this is threatening the very fabric of domain microscopy because all we have to have for democracy to survive is a basic compact that your vote, you can vote, your vote will count and the person that wins wins. that's what donald trump was tearing apart that basic contact contract. that is the only requirement for democracy to survive. and he is turn these people that violated the rule of law into martyrs. and by the way, if we don't have rule and law in this country, democracy can't survive either and he is just an absolute il, fit mentally flawed is probably the nicest way i can say it. former president and candidate for future president in america has to reject him. >> john, i know you have new reporting on the former president's meeting today or interview with probation officials, which is a normal part of this procedure. what happened? >> so today donald trump with his lawyer, todd blanche, over a microsoft teams connection, had this virtual meeting to prepare to assist probation department in new york city with preparing the pre-sentencing report that goes to the judge it was an unusual meeting in that present there was the commissioner of the new york city department of probation wanted to homes her general counsel, bridget hamline, and the probation officer who would normally be there by himself or with another officer who would do the interview. the interview was led by commissioner homes and to the official who was briefed on the interview afterwards told me that at all times donald trump answered the questions which were things about what are your living situation, any health issues family history, where do you spend more time? new york or florida? a lot of things that donald trump, but thank every everybody already knows. but commissioner home said these are the normal questions. we're going to put you through these questions they said he was polite, he was respectful, and that at the end of the meeting, he wished them well and ended the call with be safe and we just got speaking in new york city mayor giuliani, former mayor giuliani's mug shot from arizona authorities. he's been he was hard to get a subpoena. subpoena to. he found they finally did. this is his his his mug shot that's not the mug shot. will try to get it he's pleaded not guilty there to charges of trying to overturn the 2020 election results what what happened to him well, this has been an amazing rise and fall from a kind of prosecutor built on the image of thomas dewey going after the mom i've been crooked politicians to a mouthpiece for donald trump as president. >> and then the lead counsel by the way, this is the mug shot that was another mug shot of his, which clearly he's gotten a lesson from that prior mug shot because this one is smiling at least that's right there prior mug shot was from the georgia cases. >> so now he's on his second mug shot, but he has he has he has hitched himself to the donald trump wagon, but he's also been through multiple breakups and divorces. he's lost millions and millions of dollars. he's in bankruptcy see his apartment is up for sale and it was amazing to see someone who was the face and the voice of law and order in new york city for so long and then the mayor for two terms, a law and order meir, be someone who's going on his second mug shot and who has been disbarred and barred from the practice of law in multiple places. >> endrew in a series of interviews over the past week, the foreign president has talked about, been asked about this whole retribution seeking. he talked about running. i am your retribution. he had said months ago. i just want to play some of what he said well, revenge does take time. >> i will say that does. and sometimes revenge can be justified. i have to be honest, you know, sometimes it can look when this election is over based on what they've done. i would have every right to go after them and it's easy because it's joe biden, but very terrible thing. it's a terrible precedent for our country does that mean the next president does it to them? that's really the question so in terms of if he is president using the levers of the justice department, the fbi, to go after political opponents in a second term. how would that how would he go about that? i mean, how how feasible is that? >> well, i think it's entirely feasible. i mean, it's it's interesting to me that across those interviews, interviews with people who are like dr. phil and others who are trying to get him to walk away from those claims. >> he soft pedals it a little bit, but then you get down farther in front of the rally crowds and really hits at home it's it is absolutely clear, said it many times in front of many different people. >> he intends to take the levers of power if he is reelected and use them for his own personal retribution goals, which in and of itself is so unbelievably offensive should be to any american than any american president would purport to do such a thing. can he do it? sure, he can do it if he follows through with the plan that he's already laid out, this 2025 plan that they've talked about. >> you'll replace those folks insignificant positions. >> the department of justice and the fbi and other lawn federal law enforcement entities with flunky who will do whatever he says. >> the first steps in this process of trumping up charges against people baselessly and throwing them in jail could actually happen. >> i think it gets tougher when those cases start to make their way through the courts but that takes a long time. and so i think it's reasonable that people who think they might be on the former president's enemies list start thinking about what does that look like? what could that, how can that actually play out? in your lives? and i think people are having those conversations just trying to figure those things out as we speak. >> interim cave, adam kinzinger, john miller. thank you. can we up next closing arguments in the hunter biden's federal gun trial. and what jurors are now deliberating and later the rescue of those four israeli hostages from gaza. how it wind down who helped and more of your back bike riders, some people would rather cry slowdown there was a golden age. >> motorcycles and took my breath away i built this club, added is his. >> my family the club is changing what do you want me to do mark writers were your door only beaters june 20, you give 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delaware jury more now in the charges the trial and closing arguments from cnn's paula reid in a major show of support, hunter's family members and pastor taking up three rows in court today have known the parameter you don't abandon your friends and family tough time in closing arguments, prosecutors pointed to the gallery of supporters and said those people are not evidence and reminded the jury that no one is above the law. the prosecution directly address the most difficult element they have to prove that hunter biden knowingly lied on a federal background check form when purchasing the gun at the center of this case, the defendant knew he used crack and was addicted to crack at the relevant time period, adding that hunter would have been aware from his time in rehab that he had a problem with drugs maybe if he had never gone to rehab, he could argue he didn't know. he was an addict at the end of his closing, prosecutor, leo wise circled back to testimony from hunters daughter, naomi, on friday, when she told the jury that when she returned her father's car to him on october 19, 2018, she did not see any the evidence of drugs, but why is reminded the jury hunter's former girlfriend, hallie biden, his brother, beau biden's widow, had testified that when she found the gun in the same car days later, she found it alongside drug paraphernalia defense attorney abbe lowell countered, warning jurors not to convict his client in properly adding it's time to end this case. he compared the trial to a magician's trick, trying to dupe the jury, saying, watch this hand pay no attention to the other one. >> he accused prosecutors of cherry picking evidence to present a more timeline of hunter's drug use and said his client was not lying when he marked down that he was not an addict on that federal form lowell attack, two of hunter's former girlfriends who both served as prosecution witnesses in this case. he noted zoe kestan took pictures of hunter with drugs, but not in the key month of october 2018, he also reminded the jury that hallie biden could not remember specific details about when she found the gun in hunter's car? >> and noted hunter was the one who told highly to file a police report for the missing gun after she threw it out hunter did not take the stand to testify in his own defense in this case, a move that would have come with potential rewards and definite risks the jury will be back here at court tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. to continue their deliberations. it's impossible to say how long it will take them to reach a decision on these three counts? but i was important earlier today, and then we're also attentive as the judge explain the instructions page by page, line-by-line. >> these are of course, the rules that they need he to follow as they undertake this historic decision. >> anderson all right. thanks so much more now and how prison biden's handling the weight for the verdict and the biden family presence throughout the trial, including the first lady who went back and forth during the french visit to be in court with her stepson. cnn's mj leaves the white house for us tonight. what are things like in the white house as they await the jury? >> well, you know, the trial of the president's son has been an extraordinarily sensitive issue for this white house the president, and it is not a coincidence that the president himself has barely commented on the ongoing trial. we heard him, of course, make a statement at the beginning king of the trial thing that he loves his son and that he is proud of him for showing resilience as he has fought addiction issues. and then the other rare exception, of course, was recent abc interview where the president was asked whether he would pardon his son whether he would rule that out actually, and his answer, a one word answer was simply yes. he would rule that out. >> the president anderson has been really clear that he is going to accept the outcome of the trial no matter what happens. >> and that he's just not going to comment on his son's case as the jury is deliberating that, of course, is in line with the president's sort of broader view that you just don't comment on a trial file or a legal proceeding when it is still making its way through the legal system and i should just note that that is an important area where the president had sought to draw a contrast between himself and the former president, whom he has accused of trying to put his thumb on the legal system on an influence in a political way other areas and other issues at the former president has dealt with this. of course, the president has made clear he sees as being wholly inappropriate mj lee. >> thanks. much at the white house tonight, joining us now cnn legal analyst norm eisen and jennifer rodgers, also former federal judge. sure. shen lin norm what do you make of closing arguments? >> do you think he's gonna get convicted? >> i thought both sides did an able job in closing arguments. the prosecution hammering the evidence that hunter biden was using or addicted to drugs before and after this key october 12 two 23rd period. they don't have actual evidence throughout the day, but they have yes. and the judge in directed that you don't have to prove the de you have to show that hunter biden was actually engaged in using or was an addict around that time and they have him checking into rehab before and after the various witnesses. but anderson abbe lowell is a very capable defense lawyer and he leaned into that critical gap. and the state of mind question this has to be knowing. that means it hunter biden had to say on purpose, not by mistake i'm not an addict. i'm not a user. and lowell argues well, he thought he was not an addict at that time, and there's no proof he was using prosecution ahead on points not impossible. you get a defense verdict or a hung jury what, do you think? >> yeah, i agree. i mean, i think they'll probably get a conviction here. there's a very narrow path for the defense to win this. they really do have to lean into this knowingly and they can't prove it on these days, but prosecutors always say follow your common sense, right? like the guy has been in rehab, people around that time, there's these text messages it's about dealing and the hallie biden testimony about paraphernalia in the car. and so use your common sense, was that argument does that make sense to you that well, i didn't think i was an addict on that day and therefore, i signed this document, say i'm not an addict. i think it's the only argument that the defense has a question is, can the jury accepted and i think contrary my fellows here, i friends here. maybe maybe some jury juror or more jurors who are sympathetic to what he's gone through and may have experienced something like that sometime in their life i'm going to cut him a little slack and say well, on that day, maybe you didn't use so that takes care of the use. and as far as being an attic well, maybe that day he thought he'd come out of it and was no longer an attic because he was doing better even if felt if he fell off two days later so they might have a basis to draw that distinction if they want to, in your experience on the bench, i mean, is it tough for juries to see past this is the son of the president or someone to be famous very tough, very tough. >> and the family is a cut one way or the other. >> i mean, just think, well, i think it could cut in his favor the families there. it's a high-profile family. somebody might indeed think that he's going through this because of that. and again, as we all know, it only takes one to cause a hung jury. so i'm not as confident as my colleagues that there's gonna be a conviction here, but i wouldn't put my money on a non conviction either. >> you know, the prosecution is aware of this risk because the first thing the prosecutor said in closing was all those people sitting behind the defendant are not evidenced that's pretty unusual in my experience. that i actually has a little aggressive veto i mean, here are these people there to support him. lots of people on the jurors, the jury have had addiction in their families. and here's his loving family there to support them and they're going to point out of and be like don't pay attention to those people. i thought it was a little overly aggressive action, if anything, it could hide why it could have been it can boomerang because they're going to look over it when he said that, look right over at those three rows think about parents and sisters and children and all the rest of it. they could just override this if they want to know and there's also some breaking news in trump's classified documents. kids, judge aileen cannon denied the defense's effort to dismiss the indictment, but she also struck a paragraph from jack smith's indictment anderson this was a motion that the defendants had brought attacking this indictment every which way from sunday. >> they lost almost everything. and the question we should ask is, why did judge cannon for these relatively easy unexceptional challenges takes so long dragging it out. >> she didn't give one gimme to the defense it's one paragraph, paragraph 36. >> it has to do with what happened at bedminster that conversation about of the iran documents it's there as to give notice that the prosecution is going to introduce prior bad acts, but striking it was virtually or enough, judge and judge. >> judge, what what's going on? in my mind, i was pleased that she got this done so fast from may 22 to june content for her is practically speedy, so i was impressed that she didn't sit on this. obvious motion for very long. i have to tell you that motion is made in every case and it's never granted duplicitous snus multiplicities never works but they make it to preserve the record. nobody expects to win those motions. you do it to preserve so it didn't take her all that long to get this one done. >> i mean, given the history of other things, she has been delaying on our us surprised by the length. this thing is dragging out of in general in all the motions. but this motion was relatively fast. that's a good sign. maybe she's hearing us talking about her and she's getting her work done. who knows, but this i thought was relatively fast. and as far as that foro for be the similar act it is very clear that she that she is saying, but at trial, there may be a basis to offer this evidence, justice, and belong in the indictment. get it doesn't relate directly to the charge. >> jennifer, does this impact the the chance of this thing moving forward faster? >> i mean, the problem is we have so many outstanding motions that are complicated, time-consuming problematic seep emotions, the classified information, protection actin, and so on. it's just we're not moving forward in a way that it's good for going to trial. there's just so much should have saved those pages and all those words to 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proof sunless are potty has the exclusive interview they put me in a terrible position. >> how dare they do this to me. but he had me standing up in front of cadets for 11 years talking about honor, respect, devotion to duty where is there where's the respect to any of us? i'm disgusted. >> shannon norenberg spent more than a decade as the sexual assault response coordinator at the coast guard academy, it felt like an honor to be there and help them with this thing that is so hard and awful difficult and awkward and the coast guard did tell me they were taking it seriously. i felt like they meant it until she says she recently discovered leaders had used her to lie to victims, making her an unwitting accomplice to a massive cover up up decades of sexual assaults at the coast guard academy. >> i have no idea that what i was telling those victims was not true. >> it started several years ago when norenberg was asked to take part in informing victims about a sensitive investigation code named operation fouled anchor. coast guard leaders had discovered that dozens of cases of rape and abuse from the 1980s to the mid 2000s have been ignored and covered up the attackers usually left unpunished. >> i got a phone call from someone at headquarters saying, hey, we want you to help out. they told me at that time that all of those investigations had already been done and that at this point, we were going to call everybody up and offer them an in-person meeting so that we could say we regretful all the things that actually sounded amazing. i took these to every single meeting. the coast guard gave norenberg talking points to go over with the former cadet's who had been sexually assaulted. an apology tour where they were assured their cases were supposedly being handled properly after all these years, members of congress and staff and dhs have been briefed on the general outline of the investigation, what was found, and what disposition decisions were made. we assured them the hey we're handling this. >> we've got this. we're taking this seriously. thanks for coming forward but it turns out actually the coast guard hadn't told congress, norenberg didn't know it, but the investigation was quietly closed. >> so the decades of assault were kept hidden from congress and the public until a cnn investigation revealed at all last summer, victims were never given any recourse. >> i trusted the coast guard implicitly and i assume that the talking point document they handed me was true i would never have considered that might be ally. the cnn reports about operation fouled anchor have led to multiple federal investigations congressional hearings in an apology from the head of the coast guard, we fail to provide the safe environment that every member of the coast guard deserves. norenberg says, after seeing cnn's report, she feared she had been used in the cover-up. she found the talking points in her files recently, which confirmed it and started to read it. >> and i was like, that's not actually that's not what happened. they lied to me they lied to us. they had me lie. oh, my god. they had me lie to them. and actually that's when i lost it because at first i was like, wow, that's crazy. the light and then i was like, wait they used me to. lie wow they planned it as far back as 2018, not to tell anyone about this. protect the precious institution. they be trade, the victims of fouled anchor over and over and over. this is my boot camp photo norenberg says she was raped by a supervisor when she was an army recruit in 1988 and says she knows how it feels to be told there's nothing that can be done she is resigning and going public about what happened. >> the public needs to know this is happening. >> people sign up to serve their country, and this is how they're treated like trash. it's not okay. >> in response to a cnn request for comment, the coast guard says the talking points were created months before the meetings with the cadets. and we're not updated and then another former a coast guard official who was present at the meeting said, no victim was informed that congressional notifications occurred. >> i want to tell the victims of fouled anchor how sorry, i am to be a part of this terrible scheme. >> but let me try to make it right now. and i'm so sorry. >> i'm so sorry sometimes diprotic joins us now, what can you tell us about this hearing tomorrow? yeah. anderson, the head of the coast guard admiral live. linda fagan, should we testifying before the senate intelligence committee tomorrow? so be talking about the change hinges that she promised to make in the wake of cnn's previous reporting. >> and she has repeatedly said that she wants to learn from the past. >> she wants to move forward, but shannon norenberg's account here certainly adds the whole string of controversies showing that this sexual misconduct remains pervasive across the coast garden and definitely under gore's, that this is far bigger issue than she has 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than any third-party or independent candidate at this stage, since ross perot 1996 yesterday i seen on state of the union, michigan governor gretchen whitmer, co-chair the biden-harris campaign said kennedy has a lot of quote, wild ideas and noted he does not have the support of his own family, but she also said this certainly kennedy or any third party candidate gives me some concern and it's to be taken seriously. >> we're now from cnn's even weekend, who spoke with kennedy's supporters on a 17 acre tree farm in sackville wisconsin, dells stan braunton rides around the land with hope with the 2024 election will bring monumental change shape in 2020 i voted for trump, but now he says the former president's sounds like a broken record. it's all about the election was rigged and the court system is rigged. >> this year. >> the wedding venue owner who plans to eventually transform his property into a wellness retreat is all in for independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. bobby this is the first candidate who i actually felt good about. i think a lot of people are very frustrated with voting for the lesser of two evils. >> is that how you view the major party candidates? yeah, absolutely. >> a self-described conservative, independent stan braunton shares kennedy's vaccine skepticism and learned of him through kennedy's work with the anti-vaccine group, children's health defense the 62-year-old typically votes for republicans, but he's attracted to kennedys anti-establishment message, ending the form was the financial corrupt sure within government agencies and the fact that we can't trust our government agencies to do their jobs because they've been hijacked by corporate interests. >> you don't think are government agencies can be trusted know why? because they're bought and paid for. >> i found a video rfk jr. on youtube. >> recent college grad katie zimmerman voted for president joe biden in 2020. but now she spends her saturday mornings tabling at farmers markets like this one in wahba, tulsa for the kennedy campaign he's coming to all voters and saying that if you vote for me, like you'll be able to afford to buy a house. first is i haven't necessarily heard biden say things like that, that appeal to me. if ultimately trump gets reelected how would you feel about that? >> i would feel really great about that if he was elected into office. but i i wouldn't necessarily feel any guilt because i was able to have a choice and who i wanted to vote for dog denticola is a long time democrat who never thought he would find himself lobbying trump's supporters. just switched to kennedy. >> what do you think this guy's go to 24. go watch reasoning you haven't even given him a chance because he doesn't ever which answer anyway, is it hard to convince trump's supporters to vote for kennedy? yeah, i actually just appreciate that he was willing to stop and talk to me, fed up with political polarization, denticola thinks kennedy can bring americans together and isn't worried about him taking votes from biden or trump a person like bobby kennedy, who is really a message of unity, a message for all people i think that's why he's going to actually pull a lot of voters from both sides back on deal's farm. >> i shared desire for unity to address a deeply divided country. if we don't make some changes, if find somebody who has creative solutions and had somebody we can trust, who wants to bring us together? we're gonna be in a world of hurt if it does rfk junior seemed to be pulling more votes away from biden or trump based on who you spoke to anderson kennedy's coalition of voters, they've really span the political spectrum polling data does indicate the largest contingent could actually be those who didn't support either candidate i didn't 2020 a lot of his support comes from these so-called double-haters. those holding unfavorable views of both biden and trump, anderson even can thank so much. the news continues, the sorts 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deliberating a verdict could come this morning breaking this morning, a suspect arrested for stabbing for americans in china the video censored on chinese social media. new questions this morning about what happened and why health experts expressing concern that a bird flu outbreak in the united states could become a much bigger problem there are a assignor is out today. i'm john berman with kate bolduan. this is cnn news central happening now alive, look at the federal court in wilmington, delaware, where everyone is waiting for work when the jury now they will be resuming deliberations in hunter biden's federal gun trial. >> they met for only about one our yesterday. so maybe they have hours of work ahead, but word could come any moment really, the jury is weighing three felony gun charges against the president's son. >> that together here gray maximum penalty of 25 years if convicted, cnn's evan perez is outside the court, and then it was a big day of closing arguments yesterday. >> what's expected today? >> okay. we have the jurors reconvening this morning. as you pointed out, they they had about an hour of deliberations before the and at the de and the judge said they would just come straight back into the jury deliberation deliberation room and reconvene this morning and go through these three charges they they have a form that tells them the standards, the different elements that they have to unanimously agree on in order to reach a verdict. and those include of course the idea that 100 knowingly violated the law when he bought a firearm in october of 2018, that he knew he was addicted to drugs when he filled out that form and according to process to curators, when he lied in, be in order to be able to get through a background check those are the elements that are at the center of this. we saw the jurors yesterday after about an hour. they seem to have started forming a bond at a couple of them, walked out arm in arm as they exited, smiling. these are jurors who have been very, very attentive. they've been taking notes during this trial over five days over really not a lot in dispute in this case. in the end, they're going to have to reach a verdict on someone who is very well known in this community. you saw the biden family come out in force for them yesterday, 33 rows of seats it's were taken up by members of the community, including an african american church that is doing a prayer service for him every morning, kate talk to me about some of the high points they came out during closing arguments and some of the final things really that the jury heard before they started deliberating yeah. >> look, it was a very, very tough battle really between this that the lawyers involved here, we had abbe lowell who is 100 attorney, who used a a series of presentations to list what he says. >> we're holes in the case on the part of the prosecution. >> he said these were all reasons for reasonable doubt. he also accused prosecutors of rehearsing with witnesses and he accused prosecutors also have been to nail bit noisy. naomi biden, who is a hunter biden's daughter, who testified here, one of the last witnesses and asking her whether she did rugs, something that really caused a lot of emotion from her and from her father that day. on the part of the prosecution, they said, look, hunter biden new, he was addicted to drugs. anyone who puts a crackpipe to their mouth every 15 minutes knows he's an advocate evan perez thank, you so much, kevin, as always, johnson, would this now cnn legal analyst, jennifer rodgers, counselor, we heard from evan there that the prosecution in their closing arguments may direct reference to people in the gallery which included at some points that first lady hunter biden's why biden family members in did so some people who are watching said pretty aggressively, what's your takeaway there? >> yeah, i was surprised at that. actually, i'm not surprised that they address that he had so many supporters there, but i would have done it differently because the risk to the prosecution is that people really sympathize with hundred for biden. there's a narrow pathway for them to find him not guilty, but i think it does require them to really have sympathy for him to get there. and so i would have done it by saying you see, he has a lot of support. we all know addiction is a terrible thing. you might find yourself sympathizing with him, but your job as jurors is to follow the law you have taken an oath that requires you to put aside your sympathy and to look at the facts here. that's what i would have done instead of kinda point, they are not evidence. ignore them. i think that's handling it the wrong way because if they aren't, we don't know for sure, but if they are sympathetic to the biden family you're sort of guilty the jurors are your sort of yelling at them about that? >> yeah. it's not the right take. i mean, listen in order to acquit or even to hang at least some of them have to find this whole thing about did he knowingly make the false statement? and when you look at all the evidence around his use, not in those two weeks necessarily, but around that time. that's hard to do. so i do feel like the judges have the jury had to do a little bit of nullifying here in order to find him not guilty and guilting them into the sympathy is not the way to avoid that. >> the judge and the jury instructions seem to make pretty clear that the prosecution version of the law is the one to follow here, which is to say, we don't have to prove that hunter biden knew he was addicted the minute the pen hit the paper right there at that moment or that he was using drugs the minute the pen hit the paper at that moment that's right. >> and prosecutors always emphasized to use your common sense, right? >> someone comes out of rehab. they described themselves for years later is an addict. he knows he's an addict. use your common sense but you should find jurors walking hand in hand, eyelid courtroom. that's a little unusual. >> yeah, i haven't seen that before. they often do get close. they spend a lot of time together sometimes they are at odds, sometimes they're not. it's not uncommon for them to form friendships in the arm in arm, i really haven't heard before. maybe this is a particularly close group, but listen, they need to be closer at least in agreement in order to reach a unanimous verdict. so i suppose that's a good sign for prosecutors know i know people who write lifetime movies. i mean, this could be a good plot. his strange plot for the beginning of something kinda lifetime romance there. >> the jury is in delaware, which is a very democratic state in wilmington, which is a very biden city that binds have been there for decades it's in decades and decades yeah. >> how much will that play in the jury room? >> well, prosecutors are trying to avoid that. this is why they're saying things like, you know, ignore the famous people in the audience and the like, and the judge has told them the same, listen, you have to put aside your preconceived notions about who he is, who the families, and just focus on the law and the facts. but we of course, don't know what they really do in their own heads. and when they're discussing among themselves in the jury room. so we'll see they've been in there for an hour plus minutes, six minutes, probably at this point, a long deliberation typically benefits the defense. i mean, the longer it goes, the more likely that it's hong it's a simple case, not very many witnesses, if they don't have a verdict today, it's bad news for the prosecutors will stand by. >> it could come at any moment. jennifer rodgers, thanks so much for being with us. appreciate it. thanks happening now, you're sicker of state. >> antony blinken is in jordan putting new pressure on all parties to accept a ceasefire and hostage deal where the negotiation stand right now, this must stop what attorney general merrick garland says, republican lawmakers are doing. the he says, is dangerous for democracy d. and this why martha's vineyard is running out of pot altered james is cold calculating, cynical, and needs the money not only was the cia compromise, he also was compromised secrets and spies nuclear games. sunday at ten on cnn can the riva support your brain health? 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>> are they looking after one guy who may be for now safe, very i don't know ten storeys underground somewhere in gaza while the people that he purported it's represent continue to suffer and across fire of his own making or will he do what's necessary to actually move this to a better place? to help him, the suffering of people to help bring real security to israelis and palestinians alike that one guy that secretary blinken is referring to is hamas military leader yahya sinwar. >> and there is new reporting and the wall street journal about messages purportedly from sinwar to ceasefire negotiators. one message reading, we have the israelis, right where we want them joining us right now is retired lieutenant colonel jonathan cohen, rica. he was the spokesperson for the idf before and after the october 7 attack. can we say how him on many a time he's now a senior fellow with the foundation of defense of democracies. colonel, thank you so much for being here. i want to get to that reporting from the wall street journal with some additional contexts in just a second, but first on what we hear from secretary blinken meeting with netanyahu and he also not only said there was consensus, he said that netanyahu reaffirmed his commitment and support of this hostage and ceasefire deal, as it's laid out so far, do you think they are closer than ever before to an actual deal we've seen steps forward and then how do you read this? >> i sadly don't. and i'm not as positive towards the whole development. i would love to see our hostages home are 120 hostages home? and i would want to see israel defeat hamas and return safety to southern israel and improve the situation in gaza but i think that if you're sinwar is in his text messages, he he hits the nail on the head. sadly. and for months hamas has been manipulating global public opinion using international politics. the differences between washington and jerusalem, and they have basically been able to stay alive and stay out of jail using the hostages for about 345 months and that's something that i think is the core of hamas strategy to delay and delay as much as possible using the hostages and kind of try to derail israeli operations in gaza so that the war will end without israel defeating hamas. that's the zero-sum game. and i think that's sinwar doesn't really have a strong incentive they've to go ahead and release hostages and basically end the war because that is his best tool to stay alive and to keep hamas empowering gaza. >> let me ask you about that. so the wall street journal reporting, cnn is not seeing the wall street journal message. the message is that the wall street journal's reporting cannot confirm the authenticity of them. still, i want to read some more of the reporting from the journal. we have the israelis right where we want them. we read. it was one message and these are messages to the negotiators of the sea, to the ceasefire negotiators is what and this is another one in one message two, hamas leaders in doha, sin more cited civilian losses and national liberation conflict thaksin places such as algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from france saying quote, these are necessary sacrifices here's the thing. if this is the case, if this is the zero sum game that you're talking about, if this is the strategy how does israel take on hamas take out hamas deal with sinwar without playing into his hands that's a good question, and i think that the israeli strategy has been so far to try to get to sinwar, get to the senior leadership of hamas so far not succeeding probably because he is hidden underground with lots of israeli hostages surrounding him as human shields and so far what israel said he hasn't been able to do is to advance fast enough and to get to sinwar and basically decide the battle it took israel many months of staging in order to finally get into rafah. there was tremendous outcry and there were protests that israel shouldn't and mustn't go into rafah. >> israel easing enough. and there's no humanitarian catastrophe and there's no mass casualty event which proves that is can and should do what it's doing. >> here is a humanitarian crisis throughout gaza now you've definitely yes, but i'm talking there's not a slaughter and not a catastrophe like people warned that there will you think some have thought hoped maybe conjectured that the rescue operation from the weekend could have changed the calculus. >> they're getting three men out, men that were not supposed to be in the first batch of any ceasefire negotiation can getting those hostages. do you think do you think that changes the calculations are discussing for hamas? do you think that could scare them to the table it's a very happy event, but eventually it only proves that i think it strengthens the case of getting hostages out via negotiations because i don't think that is what has the intelligence capacity or the otherwise military capacity to get more hostages out like this, because this was a top of the shelf special operations with weeks of preparation, intel tip of the spear israeli commando units i've got in gaza job done, got the hostages out and i don't think that will sadly have the ability to do so over and over again. >> and i don't think that it changes the calculation and i think that iran hizballah or a much bigger threat, you know, we're focused on gaza and small details in gaza. the big deal and the big threat to regional stability is hizballah against this. well, and if you look at where alarms or sounding most in israel, it's in northern israel and its rockets and drones, et cetera. >> and sadly, when you're talking about where israel situated, all it's all big crisis. it's all big alarms that are sound from hamas in gaza to the neighbors around with funded and funded and supplied and supported by iran on in terms of the motivation and position of prime minister benjamin netanyahu, blinken says that he reaffirmed his support for today, but president biden told time magazine in a very recent interview, and here's how he put it. there is every reason for people to draw the conclusion that netanyahu is prolonging the war for his own political gain what's your reaction to them? >> as an israeli, as a father two children who will soon be serving in the military. i really, really hope that isn't true. and i would like to see evidence that states the otherwise from my elected leadership. i think it's very important and what we lacked now in israel is unity and trust. we are as you rightly said, surrounded by so many enemies that are challenging or very existence. and what's the israeli public now is going through. this battle fatigue, eight months of fighting, relentless alarms and sirens and 100,000 people are evacuated from their homes. in northern israel. and the war goes on. we had four casualties reported just this morning. lots of pressure on israeli society and what's desperately needed is unity is leadership. and to take, carry israel forward in what i think will be the coming years, not months, the coming years will be very challenging you don't think president biden was so off off-base to say that? >> i don't know, but i really hope that israeli leadership gets its act together unifies, gets all of the parties in israeli politics that are zionist israeli, and want to live here safely and respectfully get themselves together and focus on the most important thing, which isn't political sustainability, but it is winning the war, defending israeli civilians, and making sure that israelis can go back to their homes as they lived before october the seventh jonathan can rica, so general. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me thank you at least for us college professors are wounded after what's being described as a brutal stabbing attack in china, one person has now been arrested. >> what we are, we are learning this morning about that suspect, plus the new the big news from apple and you partnership with chatgpt gpt creator, openai, how the company plans to integrate ai into its products. >> we'll be back devastating and sudden power of tsunamis. >> it happened in far away lands and it's easy to think. it can't happen here if one hits home, we'd be ready silent birth would liev schreiber, sunday at night on cnn. >> here's to getting better with age here's the beaten these two every thursday helped fuel today with boost type protein complete nutrition, you need without the stuff you don't. so here's two now let's get started no where's your mask? 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>> right, kate? the arrest is made yesterday, but we only learn about adjust tonight. so obviously there was a gap. and the explanation from police as to what prompted the suspect the suspect simply said he somehow ran into this group of american educators and somehow this prompted this stabbings. so obviously there are a lot of gaps, a lot of holes, a lot of questions i want to show you the scene of the stabbing we were there just a few hours ago. it's about 15 you may hike from where we are right now when we arrived, any evidence of the violence had been literally washed away. there were some stains on the ground where perhaps that blood was a contrast from the images that we saw shortly after we saw these injured americans laying on the ground covered in blood. that's in addition to this, chinese tourists who stepped in to intervene to try, to try to help this park in the middle of the city is very much reminiscent of a large park you would see you in any american suburb, there are trails, there's a train that goes through it, there's a temple. we've seen a lot of retirees. we've seen a lot of families this appears to be a very safe place as investigators tried to fill in the gaps in all of this it also is important to look at the current environment, right now in china, for americans, there is this rise of nationalism. it's something that i've heard in conversations with chinese folks. it's something that is on social media but yet at the same time, we are hearing these overtures for the chinese government from present fusion thing to increase these educational exchanges between universities and colleges in the united states, like that one in iowa with china. in fact, xi jinping set a goal of 50,000 american students that come study here. so this point will have to see what happened here today. the single incident of perhaps dampers that enthusiasm finally, kate, as you mentioned, a lot of these images have been scrubbed from social media. in fact, we just saw a group of people here tonight in this park, gap of it around a phone who were learning about what happened for the first time, about 24 hours after it happened, it's been away from the headlines, sensor from the headlines until very recently, case mark. thank you so much for your reporting especially given in light of that. >> thank you, john. >> right. what makes donald trump walk on eggshells or maybe who errantly is taylor swift the revealing and some say bizarre new interview. and why health officials are keeping a very close eye on the bird flu outbreak in the united states hey, mom, how many should i decorated? 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this is going to resonate with the biden campaign believes that tackling gun violence is an issue of importance to young voters, but also to voters in black and latino communities. and so part part of president biden's goal today is trying to promote was his administration has done to try to tackle gun violence, including touting the bipartisan gun safety bill that he signed into law just two years ago. biden, today's specifically will announce the justice department has charged more than 500 defendants with violating gun trafficking and illegal straw purchaser so it seemed provisions that were part of that gun safety legislation. he will be speaking to survivors of gun violence as well as volunteers and activists at everytown for gun safety is conference it's here in washington, dc. this is one of those groups that's really risen in prominence in the wake of mass shootings in this country. the president also is expected to tout the drop hop in violent crime. the fbi yesterday released some preliminary data that showed that violent crime in the first three months of the year is actually down 15%. if you take a look at the number of murders in the country those three months, that's down by 26%. president biden has praised this, saying it's good news for american families and also arguing that this isn't happening by accident, promoted voting a his own legislative and executive actions relating to this. he said, quote, my administration is putting more cops on the beat, holding violent criminals accountable, and getting illegal guns off the street. and we are doing it in partnership with communities. he added as a result, americans are safer today than when i took office. so part of what the biden can campaign, the white house are hoping the president can do today is really tried to lay out the steps that he has taken to try to address issues relating to crime and also gun violence. it tom's as he's not just looking to rally his own base on this, but you also have former president donald trump, who has sought to rally republicans around a gun initiatives. he has vowed to undo many of the efforts that biden has put into place while he is an office, while the biden campaign argues that trump would simply be beholden to the gun lobbies so both men, in their own ways really trying to use gun issues as a way to rally their basis heading into november's election. >> or let thank you. >> john so this morning, what makes donald trump nervous or who the answer might be? taylor swift? so asked about taylor swift for an upcoming book, trump says, quote, i think she's very beautiful, actually, unusually beautiful. that's according to a forthcoming book from variety coder and chief from institute with us now cnn political commentator, democratic strategist, public gala, and cnn political commentator and republican strategist. sure michael singleton and paul, there are people who look at that comment and note it's a little strange from a guy who is going to turn 78 later in the week that maybe those are the types of things that he shouldn't be observing right there. but another way of looking at it is for a guy who will say mean things about anybody. he seems to be really careful when it comes to taylor swift right? >> what both are true. it's an incredibly creepy, i'm sorry, i know it's morning. i just threw up a little bit. my mouth. when you read those quotes today, it's just disgusting thing and mr. corruption mr. trump should pay himself hush money. you should just shut up about taylor swift and you can tell he is scared of her trump understand celebrity. he understands the power celebrity that's how he got where he is. >> ms swift is far more powerful as a celebrity than donald trump ever dreamed. >> a big and so he's clearly scared of her. and i find that wonderful and amusing, even though the comments about her appearance deeply creepy. >> sure. michael, i was trying to think if there was another figure who people have politicians have had to walk on eggshells around. you have to be really careful with no matter what you say or how they feel about you. and i was sick. maybe oprah when oprah went behind barak obama in 2007, 2008, everyone, hillary clinton's campaign and had to be really careful than john mccain's campaign had to be really careful. i can't really think of everyone else, anyone else that would make a politician so nervous. >> i mean, john, i can think of one other person and i think that would be bianna. and i have to say this because my girlfriend were kill me if i did not. one other the person that i think a lot of politicians out to be very, very careful with the lead. >> i think a lot of these celebrities and younger voters, attractiveness to them not only because of their music, but their lifestyles and also the way they live vicariously by the politics that they adopt is certainly a pervasive thing. >> if you're a politician right now, trying to win the left section, which we know will be very close and you want to galvanize young people you certainly don't want to anger them by attacking some of the individuals they look up to and i think this is the case. we're taylor swift who is an incredible songwriter. so here's someone who galvanized is not only young liberals, john, but she also galvanizes young conservatives be in a former country star who's now i want to pop music. so there's an interesting dichotomy here. but i think the former president is trying to thread the needle on. >> i know the biden campaign would love it to taylor swift came out in public and endorse the biden candidacy like she did in 2020. they are waiting for that to happen. i was looking at the calendar, paul, i still can't wrap my arms around the fact that there is a general election presidential debate in like two weeks and yes, it is right here on cnn. and i'm not doing this to promote the debate which is, i should note right here on cnn but it just shatters everything i know about presidential campaigns in its drawings. i covered george bush in 2000 and he disappeared for days before the first debate for debate prep in it, we learn later that he'd been preparing like a ton for months before should these candidates deep into debate prep for what could be the most important presidential debate any of us have ever seen oh yeah, debates do tend to freeze the campaign and our president has to go to europe for g7 meeting and if i were campaign strategies for him, i would be tearing the last three hairs out of my head. but you can use that time on air force one. >> so let's watch them manifest on air force one. if my old pal ron klain, president's former chief of staff is on that trip. >> i mean, they're doing to bake prep on the plane. >> no one i've done all my adult life. no one is better at debate prep than the president's former chief of staff, ron klain. >> but they do need to do. and by the way, so does mr. trump and i know he doesn't like it i shouldn't say this because debates are about expectations joe biden is going to climb donald trump in that debate. >> incumbent presidents rarely, rarely when the first debate, because they're used to having their rings kissed, shall we say? >> but mr. trump has talent. he does, and he's great at these rallies but he's never won a national presidential general election debate. he had to three against hillary, two gets biden in the polling, one or two point race, he consistently loses those debates by nine to 12 points. so honest earnest, free advice to mr. trump you need to hunker down and prepare for this. mr. mr. trump and i promise you, joe biden is you just broke the major one rule of pre debate expectations, right there. you're gonna get a golf. >> i spoke the truth apartment. i try never to do that with you, but once in a while sure. >> michael, if you are the trump campaign, a. the likelihood that they follow paul's advice and donald trump goes into debate prep. if you are donald trump or if you are the trunk campaign, what kind of prep would you have him do i mean luck in 2016, he had chris christie helping them out. >> chris christie and entrepreneur longer friends, so i don't think you can call up chris and say, hey, come and help us but i agree with paul. presidents usually don't do well during the first debate. so this is a very unique opportunity for the former president. and i think donald trump is really effective. john, at being able to communicate very simply in a simple way rather on issues that people really care about. so if you can figure out a way to drive and hone in that skill and more focused way on actual issues. i think the former president could potentially surprise people, but you have to be disciplined in order to do so. so i was spent a couple of days, maybe a week or so practicing these things, maybe some of his best zynga's figuring out a way to be more surgical with them during that one hour debate. and let's see what happens. but this could be, and i'll say this quickly, john. i don't think trump should debate president for a second time because to pause zero point presidents don't do well during the first debate, but they usually come back and knock it out of the park during the second debate. so if i'm trump, i would try to hammer this in with a victory and say, you know what, that's it. i'm not interested in debating number two. >> paul, very quickly share michael said the issues one of the issues is crime usually is an issue every four years and these new numbers out from the fbi, violent crime, going down, murder rate dropping dramatically could be the biggest drop. on record in one year how should the buying campaign talk about this in a way that it will connect with people absolutely. and i think it all about mr. trump catering to the most extreme and joe biden, big part of the mainstream are, let's report is right. young people and people of color really support the biden gun safety genic. guess what? >> so do older white people in the suburbs where trump is very weak and it's a web issue. >> you always just talking about wedge issues. this is a web issue. it's stick stitches together the base where joe biden frankly needs a lot of help, and the suburban college-educated swing voters were biden is surprisingly strong. once a republican stronghold, biden is really strong with those suburban at college-educated voters. so it's a great issue for biden to be touting. and mr. trump by the way, who can no longer even own a gun because he's a felon. he went to the nra and he said, i will be your loyal friend and fearless champion. so that's, that's the way to posit trump is as he can own a get himself, but he is going to be owned by the nra public, alice or michel saying, great to see both you. thanks so much good to see you, jack so health experts increasingly concerned that the bird flu could turn into a much bigger problem and martha's vineyard martha's vineyard? >> all the vineyards off the coast of massachusetts, running out of marijuana chasing life with dr. sanjay gupta listen wherever you get your podcast check it out. six my work from anywhere cozy grab yourself a drink is this dog food in your fridge? 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or is it is it not, is it there's something else and what they think at this point is that it's doesn't necessarily appear to be more severe. it may be that they, the third person got infected in a different way. first two people may have touched the surface than touch their eyes, which is what often happens. this the third person who is a farm worker in michigan may have actually inhaled some of the virus. that's worth paying attention to what they have not seen. kate. and this is a big thing that they look out for. is there evidence then it spreads as a result of those respiratory symptoms to another human human, to human spread. and so far at this point, they have not seen that, but that's what they're looking for. in short of that, what are the other red flags that they're wanting four yeah. >> i think one thing is to see a look are there other mammals that are starting to get infected? there's lots of different mammals that have been infected so far. but are there other ones as well? because each time you get new mammals that are infected, especially ones that are closer and closer to humans you may, the virus may mutate into something that can more easily infect humans and they, and could potentially spread among humans. but one of the big ways to figure this out is tested sting. and kate, we talked about this a lot during the pandemic. are we doing enough testing? and the answer right now with h5n1 is that we're not, if you test a lot of people and you say, hey, there's a lot of people that are carrying the virus, but they're not getting sick that's an important message. it may mean that this is not as deadly or is making people sick as we thought testing is the key to sort of get an idea of just how widespread this is. i talked to rick bright, who's a virologist and immunologists about this specifically. and here's what he said. >> i really think that's a tip of the iceberg. we are not doing enough testing or the even the right kind of testing. to get a better answer to that question is really unusual that we would find just one or two cases with so much virus prevalent and so many places as such, close contact to the source, such as the infected cow or the milk supply every virologists that you've talked to says we need to be doing more testing just like we said at the beginning of the covid pandemic. >> so that has to happen. and then again, looking for human to human transmission. that's where a lot of focuses it's good to see you, sanjay. thank you so much and a new episode of chasing life with sanjay gupta, the podcast available right now, jump. >> then there's this a dog ran for help after his owner crash to call our into a remote steep ravine and a national park in oregon. the man was traveling with his four dogs when he crashed. one of the dogs was able to get free and then walked slash, ran nearly four miles to the families camp site rescue crews, put up a pulley system to get the man who was airlifted to safety the three other dogs were found alive at the crash site. we are effort and comment kate, from them. >> he was waiting for that. i was like and where are we? 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for me the for the people that came to help, it was really just all in a day's work situations like this really show everyone and certainly showed us in this instance just how much all of us out in the world depend on all of you and again, i want to thank the crew from medic 24 firefighter hayden campbell, firefighter, paramedic, atom iq, and fire inspector paramedic, kimberly booser, who helped bring gray into the world. i got to be reunited with them over the weekend and i also learned when i spoke to adam and his crew, they were just as happy as i was to have a friendly female face on that crew. thank you. to kim for taking charge because man, she did. we also do want to just take a moment to thank all of the first responders here in the district of columbia, but across the country that all of us trust with our lives every day, because you really have no idea when you might need to make that call and having those people on the other end of the line makes all the difference in the world. they are truly lifesavers, so thank you to all of them, thanks to our panel, thanks to all of you for joining us. >> i'm kasie hunt. don't go anywhere. cnn news central starts right this morning. >> a former president meets with his probation officer, you wonder if james madison had that in mind when writing the constitution what can donald trump say that might impact? his sentence? >> tony blinken back in the middle east set to meet with the israeli prime minister just after the dramatic hostage rescue operation in gaza. and a key number of his war cabinet resigns and now the us is calling for a new un security council vote and back-to-back shark attacks does miles apart part off the coast of florida officials are now issuing a warning because of it. i'm kate bolduan. would john berman, sarah sayyed is out. this is cnn news central morning something no former president has ever done donald trump will sit for a pre-sentencing interview with this probation officer. >> this interview will be part of the report the probation department will submit to judge juan were shot ahead of trump's sentencing on july 11, and for normal defendants it could be a significant factor in determining whether there will be present time. of course, donald trump is not a normal defendant. will this now cnn, chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller jaume, we've got some new information about how this will be similar and different to other meetings like this. >> so the normal process is that the probation officer sits with the defendant and in some cases, in this case, the defendant's lawyer and they go through a tick list. it's what is your home situation? du you live in a stable environment? do you have employment? can you get employment? are you suffering from any drug addiction? what is your criminal background as it violent in this case, donald trump is going to be different from a lot of defendants. in fact, the vast majority he lives in a triplex at the top of a building with his name on it. he has no criminal record. and yet like any other defendants, he does have multiple other open felony cases but as far as employment, drugs, and so on the question that they're trying to resolve at the probation department as a couple of things, but key to it is is he a good candidate for the community corrections environment in english, that means the prison correction environment, or being on probation without going to jail, but having to accept the conditions of probation. >> now, a lawyer present in bys zoo this will not be in-person and todd blanche will be there with donald trump. how unusual is that? is that what joe schmo, defendant normally gets? >> joe schmo defendant usually it comes down to see the probation officer, their probation officer wants to get a look at him or her, get a sense of that. but during covid, the system had to keep going. so virtual probation interviews became a thing. and this makes sense because he's in another city. you said probation here. >> what would probation exactly mean for donald trump so probation is if you are convicted of a crime and they say we're not going to incarcerate you, but we need to check up on you to make sure you're not going to re-offend or you're not re-offending parole is when you go to jail and they let you out early and they check on you after the fact. >> so this is an interesting thing. the manhattan district attorney, alvin bragg went to a lot of trouble to bring this case and to get this conviction. and he said in his controversial day one memo that he wants less people to go to jail especially in non and violent crimes, but he didn't single out white-collar crimes. so we don't know what they're going to ask for. >> and then very finally, john, this meeting will happen today well, we hear what comes out of it or how will we know what comes out of it? >> so technically we shouldn't hear what comes out of it the psr or the pre-sentencing report goes from the new york city department of probation to that state supreme court judge juan merchan. and it is to help him as he decides on the sentence, whether it's in jail or prison, or whether it's on probation. didn't what those conditions should be if it's probation, donald trump will probably have to check in with a probation officer once a month. sometimes once a week. he sounds more like a once a month candidate. and make sure he doesn't get arrested again, that's days out of trouble. >> john miller and education as always, thanks so much for being here this wall civics lesson really is no. i mean, all this stuff is new to me. >> donald trump will learn a lot about it today, no doubt, it's good that you don't know about. >> i appreciate that. so far yet, but the things john miller doesn't know. >> so we'll hunter biden, take the stand or are we now just hours away from closing arguments very soon, you could have that answer as hunter biden's trial gets back underway in delaware next hour, the president's don is facing multiple charges related to a 2018 drug purchase. he has pleaded not guilty. so where did things go now after what end? the week with the week ending last week with very dramatic and emotional testimony. marshall cohen is outside court for us. how soon do you expect to have that answer of where this really is headed and how fast march kate good morning. >> we should find out pretty soon because the proceedings resume here in wilmington, delaware at 8:10 and am just about one hour from now. and one of the first items on the agenda is to have an answer from the defense. they told the judge that they want wanted to take the weekend to think this over, figure out the final contours of their strategy. if hunter is going to take the stand in his own defense, or if they're going to rest their case to move on to closing arguments. now why might they want to do that? we've always said it's unlikely and it would be incredibly risky. but before the trial, they said then some of their court filings that one of the things that they would want him to tell the jury if he decided to testify in his own defense was that he has been cleaned sober, and law abiding since 2019. kate, the jury is heard so much testimony about his rampant drug abuse, really painting him anyway sorry struggling and negative light they said, if he did testify, he would want to convey to the jurors directly that he's been cleaned for several years now, but of course, if he did testify, prosecutors could grill him and they said in filings that they would probably want to bring up his discharge from the navy ten years ago after a positive drug test and that they might try to attack his credibility by bringing up that in their view, he not only light on this gun for him, but he's also lied on his taxes. so a huge decision, it would be a risky move. we should find out in about one hour so then add it all up with the caveat of it's uncertain what we're going to hear right when court picks back up, but how soon could the jury have this case well, if he doesn't testify, then it's time for closing arguments. >> both sides will be able to give their final push to the jury on why they think they should get a conviction or an acquittal, then there's jury instructions as well from the judge educating the jurors, instructing them on the laws in this case. the elements of the alleged crimes and how they should conduct their deliberations. now, one of the things that the defense wants the judge to instruct the jury you're about today during those instructions, is what they call their theory of the case. the simplest, most straightforward reason why in their view, this trial should to end with three not guilty verdicts. and they told the judge that she should instruct the jury that hunter biden, quote, did not believe that he was either a drug user or addict at that time when he bought the gun and when he possessed the gun, they've said all along that if he did not know, he was a drug addict, if he did not no, he was a user than he cannot be convicted of these crimes. so it could happen today, kate, it very likely will and i'll pick back up an hour from now. >> thank you, marshall. appreciate the reporting. >> still ahead for us secretary of state back in the middle east and about to meet with israeli prime minister prime minister now facing a new reality after that dramatic hostage rescue operation in gaza is quickly followed by a key resignation from his war cabinet. >> the test now for blinken ahead as we learn new details about that rescue operation. plus nvidia is one of the hottest stocks of the year of 144%. and now the major change hitting today the market's about to open and they've woken a monster that is the new reaction from caitlin clark after learning, she will not be playing on the us olympic team in the most anticipated moment of this election. and the stakes couldn't the higher the president and the former president's one stage moderated by 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who just quit israel's war cabinet to protest netanyahu is handling of the war. >> cnn's oren liebermann live in tel aviv this morning. what a tumultuous few days there aren't john, this was such a celebratory moment and it's still is after a major operation to rescue four israeli hostages from a densely populated area in gaza. >> but the israeli government itself is already fractured following that with prime minister benjamin netanyahu trying to thank gone to one of his war cabinet members who just quit the government hospital in central israel. they hug does if there was no tomorrow because for so long they feared there wouldn't be four israeli hostages were rescued from gaza in israeli operation on saturday after eight months of captivity among the rescued, one of the most well-known hostages, noa argamani, were united with her father here video from october 7 showed her pleading. were held as kidnappers drove her into gaza and you'd like a shield that's her father. thanked he israeli military for the rest. but reunions like this remain all too rare. this is only the third successful israeli rescue operation since the war began. while elite media reunited with her son, almog, one day before her birthday yes. >> still androids and 20 hostages in gaza and this will be want a deal. >> now the daring daytime operation in the new sayyed refugee camp in central gaza lifted the spirits of a nation but unity was fleeting as anti-government protests demanded a deal to secure the release of the remaining hostages, and a ceasefire saudi on sunday war cabinet member benny gantz resigned from the government, accusing prime minister benjamin netanyahu of slow walking the war for his own political gain netanyahu vowed to keep pushing towards total victory over hamas the cost of which was once again apparent witnesses in gaza describe israel's operation as hell on earth inside a dense residential area with the crowds of mid-day positive juno an increasing bombardment started hitting everywhere something we never witnessed before maybe 150 rockets fell and less than ten minutes palestinians rushed the wounded to ambulances in this disturbing video, many, including women and children, bore the horrific scars of heavy bombardment. >> i'll aqsa martyrs hospital quickly filled with the injured, the dead next were eating people's remains. we pulled out six martyrs, all torn up. children and women the operation drew swift and severe international condemnation and hamas called it a massacre. the palestinian ministry of health in gaza says more than 270 were killed in the israeli strikes. >> 700 wounded which would make it one of the deadliest days for gaza in months. the idf disputes those numbers, saying it estimated the number of casualties was less than 100. cnn cannot independently verify these figures on sunday, national security adviser jake sullivan told cnn's dana bash that innocent people were tragically killed in this operation he called on hamas to accept a ceasefire. that's on the table right now. >> and the best way to end this war is for hamas to say yes to the deal president biden announced and that israel has accepted what's unclear now is how easy it is to accept this deal from israel sayyed with guns, quitting the government netanyahu has even more pressure from his far-right coalition partners who have threatened the dissolve the government if he accepts the ceasefire deal. >> so this is not at all an easy path forward as blinken expected to arrive here later on today, john. >> yeah, it will be interesting to see the impact of the hostage rescue combined with benny gantz leaving the war cabinet. the impact that will have on negotiating oren liebermann. terrific new details in that report. thank you so much so temperatures, so hot they could kill you, were millions of americans need to be extremely careful today and then a catastrophic failure that is what officials say after a large chunk of one of the country's most 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officials described a significant injuries to one upper and one when lower extremity, both requiring the application of a tourniquet, the second victim has minor wounds to her right foot. one county officials said, what happened is both tragic and terrifying, but historically, shark attacks are exceedingly rare. >> they're highly unusual and it's extremely unusual for two to happen in the same afternoon when four miles of one another is the sheriff mentioned we're reaching out to us to speak to subject matter experts as to what may, you know, what may be causing that but golf temperatures, the steering current, whatever that is and you may remember that on may 28, there was another incident and galveston beach where a 19-year-old woman was bitten in her left hand by a shark, but survived as reported by cnn affiliate k prc on sunday, that south walton fire this strict in florida issued a warning on x, say the following. >> we are guests in the gulf. the post says, we all must accept some amount of risk when entering the water that does not take away from these two ladies whose lives are changed forever, but looking for someone to blame is not the answer. they said over the weekend, walton county officials were flying yellow and purple flags for moderate surf hazards and the precedence of dangerous marine life after what happened there friday, john, back to you. >> all right. rafael romo following this forest, raphael. thank you very much kate. >> now for eight months in captivity, four israeli hostages are now back home after a dramatic rescue operation. can saturday. >> and from ever all of everything we've seen, it was overwhelming for the families of the four that were rescued. yet there are still believed to be 116 israeli hostages still being held captive in gaza today, meaning so many families are still left waiting one of those families is the family of abbe own abby's an american citizen who lives in israel five of her family were either killed or taken hostage in the hamas attacks two of her family, eight-year-old, carmella dan, and 13-year-old noa dan, you see them there. they were killed 12-year-old arrays and his sisters, 16-year-old. so har they were taken hostage and released in november. their father oh, fair calderon. he's still being held in gaza. an abbe on joins us now. abby, thank you for coming back on we've talked so many times now in the last eight months, how does it feel today? we're how did it feel even on saturday getting the news that the four hostages were rescued and back safely and israel it was super emotional we were we were out. >> were outdoors with friends and family and we heard the news. and literally she started crying it's it was unmatched. it's unbelievable almost that it was real. and we thought for a second it was a rumor. and then we got confirmation and i think we just cried for hours because as much as we want the 116 for everyone's be home to know that for families will hold again, was amazing it's also now been eight months that ofer has been held hostage what is the latest, if anything, have you heard anything is he still believed to be alive he's believed to be alive. we are fighting to bring them home alive. >> look, last week was an emotional week it started off with four hostages being declared dead. >> three of them, amir, i'm cooper, chaim peri, yoram metzger, from your odds and so it continues to be a living trauma for sauron areas for their mother, for all of our extended family to know that the people that are there or not safe, that every single day, every minute, every hour, it's urgent that we get an out of it. we get them home and seeing those four people, three of whom we've seen in a video, alive to know that they were killed in captivity only makes this more urgent. and the fight for over more do allow yourself to feel disappointment when your heart also verse for joy for those families, just the pain of knowing that affairs was not among the four this time, how how do you deal with those feelings? it was it was this really intense moment because they said, it's no argamani and three men and i was like i just, you know, my whole body expanded and i was i was shocked because men are not the category of people that would be coming out in some sort of agreement. and so it was really, really surprising and ultimately you feel joy and happiness for anyone that comes out because it is in nightmare. it is a nightmare of eight months of 248 days for every single family member for the hostages, for anyone involved in this conflict. >> and we just know that if a hostages would be released, that any any of the challenges of this conflict would immediately be deflated. >> and that's our goal, is to make sure that every single one of them come home. and that this conflict ends you have made the point. i've looked back at our conversations. >> i mean, you've made the point in every conversation that we've had to say that you don't want to see any deaths anymore, whether it be on the side of israel or amongst the people in gaza and how does that feel today okay. >> everything is devastating and heartbreaking. i have never in my life as an american or someone that lived in israel for the last decade i've never lived through a war on the soil where i reside. >> and to know what happened, turn october 7, and to think about and appropriate response, there's no such thing but to know that the terror to happen them seventh or any of the deaths that have happened since are all unnecessary. >> there has to be a different way. and i just know the first step toward that solution is bringing the hostages home. i mean, i mourn every single leinz. there's no question. and i wish that our leaders, both in israel and the united states and around the world with steph, up even higher than they are now, and figure out a way to end this. this is something that cannot continue. now for family members, not for the rest of the world, not for the people who are suffering on the ground gaza, but the hostages and palestinians, it has to end president biden's national security adviser was asked what impact he thinks this rescue operations saturday will have on what we're talking about on the ceasefire negotiations with hamas. >> let me play for you. what jake sullivan said yesterday, api it's really hard to say, right now. it's hard to say how hamas will process this particular operation and what it will do to its determination about whether it will say yes or not. we have not gotten a formal answer from hamas i set this time even before the bigger impact on overall negotiations. i mean, just what does your gut tell you that you think that the rescue operation of these four hostages from the hands-off hamas will mean for oh, fair i hope if he hears that he feels some sort of hope that his army and its country are fighting for him but i truly believe that there has to be a negotiated agreement because this was a dangerous operation, because soldiers, for the hostages, and for anyone in the acidity. and we don't want to see more death. we want to see the 116 brought home with the minimum amount of death that's that's everyone's goal. they were taken from a party from their beds, from their homes. >> these are innocent civilians that should be brought home and the pressure in my opinion, needs to be on hamas to release them because if that pressure is big enough, then we get to a place where we can negotiate an agreement i feel so much joy that these four people are home, but i don't believe that putting our soldiers and hostages and other civilians in harm's way is a it's the best the best self forward abby. thank you so much. i'm so thankful to see you again and i look forward to the de that we're talking about, the return of all fair thank you so much for coming on. it's going to happen thank you so much, john wright new comments this morning from caitlin clark, the star wnba rookie speaking for the first time after learning, she is not on the roster of the us olympic team competing in paris. cnn's coy wire is with us this morning. this was surprising. i think to people who maybe have just been introduced to the wnba this year yeah, john, there's no doubt about it. there are very strong opinions on both sides of this debate of whether or not caitlin clark should have made team usa for women's hoops many say it's a missed opportunity. the indiana fever phenom has helped shatter viewership and attendance records dating all the way back to her iowa hawkeyes college days. and now in, the, w, she's currently top 15 in the wnba and scoring nearly 17 points per game. she's coming off her best game as a pro scoring 30 points on friday. now, many others are saying that it's completely justifiable that she is not on this projected roster. take a look at this roster of four the 12th players have no previous olympic experience of those for each of them, or at least to time wnba all-stars, none of these players on this projected roster are under the age of 26. clark still just 22, says that being left off of this roster will only make her better listen yeah, they called me and let me know before everything came out, which was really respectful of them and i appreciated that they the same for ever go that made the team for every girl that didn't make the team. >> yeah, there's a lot of players in an olympic pool, so it wasn't like i was only when they had to call that a mccloud few calls. honestly, no disappointment. i think it just gives you something to work for you. it's a dream, you know, hopefully we can be there think it's just a little more motivation do you remember that? and, you know, hopefully in four years before you comes back around you and i can be there. >> she got the call on the bus and she texts me to let me know and i just tried to keep our spirits. i mean, the thing she said was, hey coach, they woke a monster, which i thought was awesome. >> they 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biden is considering following his recent border move with a second move on immigration that could protect some undocumented spouses of us citizens from deportation cnn, steve contorno, arlette saenz, both working different angles of this for us. so steve, what more did you hear from donald trump yesterday well, it was a continued attack kate on joe biden's record and that has been central to his outreach to latino voters in black voters and other voters of color. >> essentially, that your life under trump presidency was better than it has been under joe biden. that is the central case that he is making to voters of, of every shot stripe and it's coming even as you hear that that dark rhetoric about immigration, trump is promising to deport millions of americans. and one of the largest deportation operations in the country's history, if he wins and yet he. is polling suggests that he continues to make headway with latino, spanish-speaking voters four years ago, joe biden won latino 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you learning then about this new reporting on another immigration move potentially by president biden okay. >> sources have told cnn that the biden administration is considering a new step that could potentially offer legal status to undocumented immigrants who are married to us citizens, officials are looking at an existing authority called parole in place, which would shield the certain groups of undocumented immigrants from deportation and allow them to stay in the country and worked at legally while some of them would be able to seek citizenship, it's expected that this could impact about 750,000 to 800,000 undocumented immigrants at this moment. and it comes as it could potentially appeal to latino voters in states like nevada, arizona, and georgia. but this also comes as the administration is trying to shore up support, not just with latinos, but also progressives and immigration advocates. many groups access frustration with president biden's executive action last week that 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take a look at polling at many believed that trump has would have better policies than biden. >> but at the same time, the president is i'm also trying to shore up with key parts of his constituency, constituencies are heading into that november election. are let thank you so much, steve contorno. thank you as well. john wright with us now, senior spokesperson and adviser to the biden campaign aide or an l rod. >> thank you so much for being with us. this proposal reported proposal out there to provide some kind of legal status for the undocumented spouses of us citizens. what would that be designed to do? who would that be designed to help? >> yeah well john i certainly don't want to get into the front of the white house's announcement on this. but what i will say is the following, president biden is how to take matters into his own hands. is president, because congress failed to act. the most historic bipartisan piece of legislation that we have seen in front of congress in over a decade was stopped because maga republicans list sent to their leader, donald trump, who said, i don't want to give joe biden president joe biden, uh, when i don't want to give him a political victory during a 2024 presidential campaign year so president biden has had to take matters into his own hands by issuing executive actions that will will, will, will improve the situation at the border because congress failed to act and congress failed to act again, not because of democrats, but because of maga, republicans. >> how does providing a legal status for undocumented spouses of us citizens? how does that help people help the situation at the border well, again, i don't want to get in front of the white house on this, but i what i will say is that it's important that the president shall leadership on this, which is what president biden is doing. >> you see donald trump on the campaign turnout, tell talking about the border, talking about the crisis at the border, blaming democrats when really democrats are the ones john, who want to get something done, where are the ones who worked with republicans across the aisle to negotiate a historic deal that republicans immediately shot down in congress could have easily pass both chambers. they wouldn't let it pass because donald trump said to speaker johnson and other republicans in congress, i don't want to give joe biden to win this cycle. so president biden is doing what he can. he's using every lever his disposal, which of course is, you know, john, when you're the president united states, you can do a lot, but you are somewhat limited in terms of what you can do without congress acting. so it's very important that president biden, you do what he can in the executive branch, but he also hopes that congress will act hello, to play some sound from before. one of donald trump's events in nevada yesterday. in its rhetoric from marjorie taylor greene and another republican supporter. and it's the type of thing that we have heard on the trail recently, which is almost messianic rhetoric concerning donald trump. listen to this oh president trump as a convicted felon what you want to know, something the man that i worship is also a convicted felon and he was murdered on a roman cross is sensitive park to worship and bring back the grid is present we've ever known in our generation so what do you think when you hear rhetoric like that i don't even know what to think, john, i mean, look, i i'm not going to speak for the american people, but i think that rhetoric speaks for itself. >> and what our focus is, john, on this campaign is made make sure that every single voter understands the contrast understands what is at stake that donald trump and his maga allies are focused on seeking revenge and retribution. they are running a negative campaign that is not focused on the american people, but it's focused on themselves. we are making sure that the american people understand that president joe biden in this fighting for them. he wants to continue his policies of lowering costs for families lowering prescription drug costs continuing his agenda of economic freedom. whereas are republicans are focusing, focusing on themselves and donald trump has made it very clear that if he steps back into the white house, he will rule as a dictator on day one. he will seek, you will use the white house to seek political are the engine retribution on his political enemies? he is said, things that, you know, he's, he's praised the third reich. he's used racist rhetoric at every chance that he has. president biden has delivered for the american people 15 million jobs record unemployment growth when it comes to latinos, in particular, at one point, john, when president donald trump was an office, there was 47% unemployment among latinos. joe biden has created over 4.8 million jobs for latinos. we want to make sure that every single voter, all latino voters, understand what's at stake and what president biden has delivered for them? >> adrian elrod, appreciate you being with us morning. thank you okay. more than 20 million people from california to arizona could be seeing triple digit or near triple-digit heat. let's get over to cnn's derek van dam tracking this one for us. derek, what are you looking at? >> yeah. kate, 30 is coming out of phoenix arizona warning that the high risk of heat stress or heat-related illness is present here in the city today, if you don't have access to adequate cooling or adequate hydration as well, they've had 14 consecutive days where the mercury in the thermometer has climbed above one in hundred degrees and we have no relief really insight, especially this week, 20 million americans under some sort of heat alert, including heat warnings for vegas, sin city. it is sisley and their 11 consecutive days with temperatures above 100 degrees. this is the warmest start in the month of june for n
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thing or political panel ways in hello i'm dana. >> bash in washington where the state of our union is looking overseas after eight long months for israel israeli hostages are back home safely. >> family reunions and tears of joy after they were rescued from hamas captivity by idf forces in a special operations saturday morning, the rate of two separate apartments and a central gaza refugee camp took months of preparation and military spokesman said, since hamas moves, hostages frequently and embeds them in areas packed with civilians like this refugee camp. following reports of heavy shelling and artillery fire, gaza hospital said more than 200 people were killed in the operation. cnn has not been able to verify claims about the exact number of civilian deaths in what was the first successful hostage rescue since february here with me now from paris where he is traveling with president biden is national security adviser, jake sullivan. thank you so much for being with me. let's start of course, with the news about the rescue of four israeli hostages inside gaza. >> how specifically did the us assist in the mission well, dana, the united states has been providing support to israel for several months in its efforts to help identify the locations of hostages in gaza and to support efforts to try to secure their rescue or recovery. i'm not going to get into the specific operational or intelligence related matters associated. and with that, because we need to protect those, i can only just say that we have generally provided support to the idf so that we can try to get all of the hostages home, including the american hostages who are still being held so i understand that intelligence u.s. >> intelligence assisted but what you say anything about u.s. personnel, us weapons? >> well, the one thing i can say is that there were no us forces, no, no us boots on the ground involved in this operation. we did not participate militarily in this operation jake a mosque claims that other hostages that they are holding inside gaza were killed as a result of the idf's mission, is that true? we have not seen that verified or were confirmed. i believe that the israelis have said they do not have any information to that effect. but of course, that is always a risk with all of these military operations, hostages have been killed over the last eight months. and so dana the best way to get all of the hostages home and to protect palestinian civilians is to end this war. and the best way to end in this war is for hamas to say yes to the deal president biden announced and that israel has accepted, which lays out a roadmap to an enduring ceasefire in the return of all hostages because that's what we're driving for, and that's what we're asking the world to call upon hamas to accept are you concerned at all given what you just said that the ball is in hamas's court right now that the rescue that happened on saturday we'll make it so that hamas might walk away from the negotiating table its a legitimate question. i it's hard for me to put myself in the mindset of a hamas terrorists. we don't know exactly what it is that they're going to do. but the basic bottom line here is straightforward to bring it into this war, to get the hostages tom, to get the full scope of humanitarian aid to the palestinian people in a safe and effective way, we need the steel and all of the people all over the world and the united states. and in countries everywhere who have been calling for a ceasefire, they need to train their attention on hamas and put the pressure on because this is the way to resolve this issue. and whatever the calculus is of hamas coming out of this weekend, the reality remains the same. this is the only credible path forward and hamas i should say, yes any word either from hamas or through hamas is intermediaries about their stance vis-a-vis the ceasefire deal that the president endorsed. >> a little bit more than a week ago. since what happened yesterday well, we've heard a lot publicly from hamas over the last week. >> we've not seen any official statements since what happened with the hostage rescue operation. and the two key error of mediators who are standing alongside the united states in this process, qatar and egypt have not yet received any official word from hamas representatives as to their stance on the deal so we are waiting that word and it should come today. it should come this, our hamas should say yet which would immediately put in place a ceasefire and immediately begin the process of bringing hostages home. this is the answer that the world is looking for. it's time to act jake, i want to ask you a little bit more about that mission. >> and one of the questions is what we're hearing from gaza different hospitals in gaza say at least 236 people were killed as a part of the israeli operation to rescue hostages what is your understanding of how many palestinian civilians not militants, but civilians were killed in that rescue mission we've united states are not in a position today to make a definitive statement about that, the israeli defense forces have put out one number for the hamas-run gaza health ministry has pulled out another number, but we do know this dana innocent people were tragically killed in this operation. >> the exact number we don't know, but innocent people were killed and that is heartbreaking. that is tragic. the president himself has said in recent days that the palestinian people are going through sheer hell in this conflict, because hamas is operating in a way that puts them in the cross-fire that holds hostages right in the heart of crowded civilian areas that puts military and placement that's right in the heart of crowded civilian areas. but every day that we see more innocent people lost is another horrible, awful tragic de and our hearts in the united states and across the world, break for that, but there is only one answer to stop that from happening going forward that is a he's fire and hostage deal that ends the military operations brings the hostages home and puts us in a position to give the palestinians and opportunity for for a better future for their people and last just about the mission we're you don't want to specifically say how the u.s. >> was it's involved, which i understand. >> but just broadly, big picture no one can deny the amazing news of seeing these innocent civilians who were finally brought back to their families from gaza after being held there for eight months. >> but is the us comfortable with the way that the israelis carried out the mission? >> looked in a why is president biden going out publicly and calling for a ceasefire and hostage deal? it's because he thinks the best sway to get all of the hostages home is in a deal where they're brought out diplomatically, where there's no need for military operations to get every last hostage out. so that would obviously be the best solution to this in the absence of that without hamas saying yes to the deal, unfortunately, we are going to continue to see ongoing conflict and military operations in which israel makes efforts to recover its citizens. and frankly to recover american citizens. what we would much prefer to see is a ceasefire where the hostages come out peacefully. that is available. israel has said yes to it. now hamas needs to say yes to it. that's where president biden's full effort, energy and attention is. and you heard yesterday from the french president here in paris that france stands behind that the world stands behind that, and hamas should come to the table and say, yeah you mentioned that you are in paris. >> i have to before i let you go ask about the trip that you and of course the president is making to europe, marking the 80th, then first ray of d-day. >> you are soon going to be part of the g7 in italy. and the president gave a very big speech on democracy as he's trying to frame the 2024 president presidential election here against donald trump as a discussion about the fate of bankruptcy, do you think democracy is in jeopardy? >> the president said in his speech that democracy, democracy is at risk all over the world from without and from within. to a greater extent now than it has been in a very long time. and what president biden was arguing is that those brave men who stormed the beaches at normandy who scaled the cliffs at pointe to hakh, who liberated europe and literally saved the world. they are calling us to step up to do our job in our time, which is two ben democracy, to stand with allies, to refuse to bow down to dictators to push back against aggression that's what president biden is seeking to do. adapt that's the message that he gave here today. and it's something he will carry forward as long as he is president. >> he said around the world, is democracy at risk? in the united states as part of this election what we do hear voices calling playing into question the basic democratic values and democratic institutions that have made our country great for 250 years. >> and those voices have gotten louder in recent years. and that is a source of deep concern. but it's also a source of huge motivation, not just for the president, but for a lot of people who want to stand up to reinforce the things that have made this country great. and we've had no better reminder. dana, than getting to see some of those still living veterans of world war ii who came not to make any political statement in normandy, but rather simply bleed to reinforce the timeless values that have made america, america, and it's something we should all remember as we go forward. >> yeah, those were remarkable images. and reminders no question about that, jake. thank you so much for being here. i appreciate jaden thanks for having me both the trump and biden campaign's are trying to turn a key voting blocs suburban women republican governor kristi noem and democratic governor regine witmer are coming 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republican governor kristi noem. thank you so much for being here, governor. >> i want to start with what we've heard a lot of from the former president since he was found guilty in his new york hush money trial. that is repeatedly suggesting that he would prosecute his political opponents if he is elected with part of what he said it's a terrible precedent for our country. >> does that mean the next president does it to them? that's really the question. and it's very possible that it's going to have to happen to them based on what they've done. i would have every right to go after them. revenge, just take time we will say that he does. and sometimes revenge can be justified governor, is that the message you think donald trump should be focusing on in this campaign right now? well, his message has clearly been that his only vengeance will be america's success. he is not interested in going after political opponents. he is interested in going back to the white house and working for the american people and their families, bringing down inflation costs and that's what i'm hearing overwhelmingly here in wisconsin. is that this swing state is so important and these people here, they're number one issue right now, is not that sham trial and not the verdict and the convictions and not what's going on as far as what a lot of people are talking about in the media, they care about what's happening to their families, how much grocery prices this is have gone up, how much better their lives were four years ago. so that that's, that's really their number one concern yeah. >> i mean, it seems clear what you're hearing from voters that that is what their concern is. but it is what we heard from donald trump this week over and over and interview after interview, that he is considering going for his political opponents. so should he stopped doing that, given what you just said, you're hearing from voters what he said is that he's warned the american people if we start weaponizing the judicial system like they did against him, that it could happen to any president. it could happen to any political opponent. what he's talking about when he's having in those discussions, is that be careful what you do because that opens the door in the future to anybody doing it. and that's what he's trying to shut down. he wants people to trust or judicial system. he wants to make sure that we still have law and order in this country. if you look at conservative areas of this country, places where republicans were in control, we have law and order we have peace stability. you go to democrat states and cities that's where you see destruction and you see judicial systems and trials and corrupt judges that prosecute their political enemies. that's what new york was. new york, that was definitely a rigged elections are rigged judicial process against the president. politically motivated well, he was found guilty based on a jury, 12 members of the 12 piers, 12 piers of his. >> the other thing i just want to mention and i do want to move on is that right now? the justice department is prosecuting the president's son. president biden, son is prosecuting a house democrat is prosecuting a senate democrat so doesn't that fly in the face of the claim that the whole judicial system has weaponized against republicans i don't think anybody believes the whole, the whole judicial system is. i think they see places in this country where it is. and a new york was certainly one of those. and i don't know dana, if you read that letter from the judge in the new york city trial that came out that talked about the fact that some of these social media posts that came out before the decision in the verdicts even came out from that jury. so there may be a mistrial coming here because it was handled so poorly by this judge, and that's what i think that will be eye-opening to the american people as they really, truly will have proof then that that judge was corrupted. now, he should have recused himself according to the ethics and rules of new york. he should never have presided over that whole process. and president trump should have never been in that section. i just want to say that those details have not been confirmed. obviously, the trial is over. so i think you're probably referring to an appeal. i want to move on to some of the politics that we're seeing in the 2024 race specifically donald trump is actively starting to look for running mate cnn is told that there are seven potential trump vp contenders receiving vetting materials so far you're not on that list. do you have any indication that you're still under consideration to be donald trump's running mate i've told president trump over and over again, he needs to pick whoever helps him when i have been loyal to him since the very beginning when he first started to run in 2016. >> he's told me his priority is picking a running mate that can govern on day one. it has been the loyalty him that can has experienced and run businesses, knows how to be a ceo, but also supports him and his policies. >> i don't care. i love my job in south dakota. i care about the fact that i want him to win and he knows that i will do that. so i talked to him three times yesterday. i think he's doing great and fantastic. i'm proud of him i've never seen anybody get out a bed and work as hard as this guy does just because he loves america and he's got some, a lot of corrupt criminals and a lot of political enemies coming after him and he still gets up, fights for the average everyday american that makes me proud of him on that list that i just showed so there were six men and one woman women, particularly suburban women. i don't need to tell you, could play a big role in who gets elected in november should there be a woman on the ticket a and b, you said you just need to pick somebody who will help him win would do help him win we'll all the all the pools such tell him in the swing states that a woman on the ticket, it helps him when the polls just say that people, one in four republican women haven't made up their minds because they want to have a woman talking to them about the issues they care about and women aren't monolithic. >> they don't, they don't care about just one issue. they care about health care, they care about their children, they care about their futures, they care about having an opportunity to have a business and to have a career. and all of that is being threatened. vendor joe biden but but yes, the women vote is extremely important and i spent the majority of my time here in wisconsin talking to women and talking to those people that are independent and on the fringe and they're leaning towards donald trump. but they also want to know that their perspective is gonna be at the table when decisions you should pick a woman. they want to know that there's going to be people involved i think that that would be a beneficial is according to the polling that i've seen for him in a lot of swing states is that having a woman that is helping him campaign makes a difference. so it's an i could be home and bed or feeding my horses right now. are racking my grand babies, but i'm in wisconsin because i believe president trump needs to win his policies are right for america and they're perfect for south dakota. and i want him to win and the polling tells me that he needs women out on the campaign trail curing his message about how much he cares it's about them and their future. two, let me ask you about a topic that is important to women will actually important to a lot of people. and that is contraception senate republicans is we've blocked and bill to protect access to contraception nationwide. as a matter of principle, do you think republican should support company? fleet access to birth control yes, i do. >> i think that bill was a joke that bill was far-reaching in everything that was included and it wasn't just a single issue bill, which in my book i talk about the fact that single issue bills actually would fix a lot of what's broken in this country. but absolutely contrast section is something that should be available to women. why can't we just start talking about the fact that a lot of women, when they're in their situations, they're in a crisis situation. why don't we support them and give them information? and help them? so i think that whatever we're talking about when it comes to women's health care, that that's something that we as everybody in this america in this america public needs to realize is that these are difficult situations and we need to love people and win their hearts and minds as well as talk about policy. you mentioned your book. so i'm going to ask you about that because in that book no, going back, you came under pretty intense criticism even from some members of your own party because you shared a story about shooting and killing your 14 year 14 month old dog, cricket. now that you've had time to process all of that and all candor, do you have regrets you know that story's a 20-year-old story of a mom who made a very difficult decision to protect her children from a vicious animal that was attacking livestock and killing livestock and attacking people. >> so it's in the book because it was difficult for me and there's a lot in that book that i think people will need to read. i don't know if you've read it or not. i read the whole thing, but it wouldn't be in the book if it wasn't a very hard situate. all good. well, i'm glad you did. thank you for doing that, but but there's a lot in that book that's very important and i hope people read it because it's a how to guide for the average citizen on how to get their government back. yeah, why i believe that we need to have president trump back in the white house. yeah, i did the whole thing. and so i have the entire context of that incident. good. and so what i'm hearing is no regrets, not just about writing about it, but we've actually shooting the dog we've covered this and i'm a mom and protected my children from a vicious animal. >> we just had a nine-year-old boy and south dakota killed just days ago from a dog. that happens and i've that nine-year-old boy will never be in his parents lives again. i'll never been his family's lives again. i think it's people are put in tough situations in life and we learned from it. and we learn a lot for what did you learn. and that's what i've talked a lot in that book, dana, i've learned that challenging times and hard decisions are hard. and that when you get into public office, you'd learn from every single one of them and you use that knowledge to go forward into and to make wise decisions that are best for america. that's why joe biden's such a train wreck. the guys 80-years-old and making the worst decisions i've ever seen him making his entire life and destroying or country, not just on the foreign policy stage by what he's doing in the middle east. and, but also what he's doing on our economy and he's putting every other country in our enemies in front of america. and i think that's just horrible right now. you realize dana that what he did last week is that when the trump verdict came out in his trial, he actually joe biden held a press conference announcing a deal between israel and a terrorist organization that was not agreed to. and he did it during shabbat i mean, how disrespectful to the jewish people. well, to hold a press conference that they can't even respond to if for regulation just residents. i just believed that we've got people that we've got people that really we need to recognize how week this president is. and you were talking about hostages earlier in your show as jimmy carter, who i ran held hostages for a 444 days under jimmy carter. carter because he was week back in 1979 and 1980. and the day ronald reagan was inaugurated, they were released because they recognize their ronald reagan would be a strong president we've got the exact same situation here in america. why are we not? they're getting are americans home why are we not telling hamas, give us are americans back? why, why are we not doing russia to give us our journalists bad? yeah, i think one thing that this president should be doing is protecting americans. yeah, go get our americans and bring them home. that's what, that's what i'm upset about. yeah. i think there's there's a lot there maybe you can come back and we can route a time. we can talk more about it, but yeah, obviously, president biden is very aggressively tried to get the americans back. it's a very complicated situation. thank you so much. appreciate it. i pray for their families. they come home alive thank you all do up next democratic governor gretchen whitmer of a state that could decide the next president. that of course, is the great state of michigan. you see her there governor whitmer will be her live next you increase in while i'm fires is exponential unpredictable, 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rights nationwide. here with me now to talk about that and more, is michigan governor gretchen whitmer. thank you so much for being here you just heard governor known your colleague from south dakota talk about contraception. she says republicans are not trying to take away access to birth control. democrats are making this political, what's your response? >> i think that we all know the truth here. >> there's no question that with the three appointments that donald trump put onto our united states supreme court, three people who lied to congress, betrayed their oath of office and put forward? the dobbs decision. we know that there are women in many states who cannot access fundamental health care cannot make their own decisions about whether and when to bear a child. we know that mifepristone is under attack, that ivf surrogacy and now contraception is as well. and when the usf and it puts forth policy to ensure that they have an opportunity to enshrine access to contraception. and republicans vote against it and kill that bill. it is very much at risk here in this moment. and i think that what we're seeing out of the republicans saying that they protect, want to protect this as disingenuous at best and an outright lie at worst i want to talk a little bit about what we heard from the vice president kamala harris, who was speaking in your state last night? in detroit, and she said, quote, donald trump thinks he is above the law and this should be disqualifying for anyone who wants to be president of the united states what do you think well, you know what? >> i think that the fact of the matter is, we know under this democracy, no one is above the law. everyone is held into account. we have a system of jurisprudence that we have to have confidence. and then when you take that oath of office, we expect our leaders to live up to up to that oath. then this former president is now a convicted felon. he is the standard bearer unfortunately for the republican party in this moment this is a high-stakes election where you've got someone who flouts the law and cheats and just got caught and someone who has four over the course of his lifetime made serving the public. the only thing that he is focused on, he has delivered for the american people and we've got a stark decision in front of us and i really think that people need to take this moment very seriously and get out and vote because this is high stakes i want to turn to a different, very different trial, and that is one that is going on in delaware with the president's son, hunter biden he is on trial for obtaining and possession of firearm while under the influence of illegal drugs, which was against the law. a republican, lindsey graham, says that an average american would not have been prosecuted either. yes, governor can hear me okay. it sounds like the governor can't hear me. you know what we're going to take a very quick commercial break? and, get this fix. and we'll be right back. don't go 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you saw that governor whitmer lost audio. we are trying to get that back and while we work on that technical problem our panel is back here. >> we're going to start first by listening to what the vice president actually said in michigan yesterday donald trump openly tried to overturn the last election and now he openly attack the foundations of our justice system cheaters don't like getting caught vice president kamala harris in detroit yesterday, my panel is here, nice to see you all. >> so you have her clearly leaning into using the verdict as a political weapon and then you have donald trump leaning into the verdicts and using them as a political weapon, obviously in a very different way for retribution. bryan lanza, i'm going to start with you since you're the only one at this table who has worked for donald trump? i know it's probably hard to stop him from doing that, which should he yells. >> i think the presence is going to do what he wants to do at the end of the de and i think the thing is is the focus for him and the rest of the campaign is going to be focusing on the economy and focus on the issues that matter. when i see an ad, like when i see her comma comma comma talking about, i almost want her talking more because the public has such an adverse reaction to the things she says. now, talking about genes, the only one feeling cheated here is probably the american public. they were promised something three-and-a-half years ago, a strong economy, a safe world if two wars overseas, we have a third one about to start between the philippines and china, which the us has military agreements with. and we have inflation wiping out the middle-class, wiping out savings, wiping up people's credits i think the public feel cheated. so you have to be careful with the word she uses. >> congressman khanna. >> well, the president is that a very strong record of bringing manufacturing back, of record job creation, lowest unemployment, but here is the contrast. the president is out there on d-day trying to bring this country together, speaking about our aspiration invoking president reagan saying we have a unifying message and donald trump is on dr. phil talking about retribution. i think that's gonna be the real case of what type of country are we, are we a country that's going to come together with the president's message. are we going to want to tear each other apart? >> doesn't sound very unifying to me. i mean, kamala harris on the attack this week and candidly, joe biden attacking, i think i'll trump during his overseas speech. normally we're worried about people attacking presidents when they're overseas. we don't normally have to worry about presidents attacking their opponents when they are overseas. i think it underscores the horrible week, the biden people had. wall street journal says he's slipping behind the scenes in a deeply source story, politico says, blows up the popular narrative that the biden joe biden has nothing to do with his family's business dealings. new york times today's out with a piece debunking all the personal narrative myths of joe biden. there's chaos all around the biden campaign, right now. and to top it all off, somehow virginia is now a swing state so i'm not surprised see kamala harris desperately on the attack because the campaign is totally flailing right now love listening to you talking about chaos because i remembered donald trump in 2016, warning us that if hillary clinton were president, it would be chaos all the time and guess what? >> we had four years of chaos with donald trump, but dan out, let's talk, but it's really going on here internally. i'm assuming the trump campaign is same one. i'm seeing which is this talking about the conviction of donald trump on 34 felony counts is working. we have a cbs poll out just this morning. we have other polls coming out that are showing joe biden starting to come move ahead. and here's the problem for the trump campaign these things matter when they underscore something that people already sent and believe about someone they already sent and believe donald trump lied to them. he had lied to them when he said he didn't sleep with stormy daniels, he lied to them when he said he was going to make all these things better and guess what? his tax cuts help the very wealthy. they harmed the middle-class. and in fact, new york times, i'm so glad mentioned new york times has a story out this morning about how so many of the promises that trump is making when he talks about mass deportations, guess what? that's going to increase our costs when he talks about this trade policy, trade tariffs, guess what? that's going to increase our costs, and that's consistent with our oil. hold on. that's consistent with our own reporting. that showed that ryan lins are just sorry, that showed the cost will go up about $1,700 for middle-class americans and all donald trump can do is talk retribution while his people du, the best they can with talking. and i just sort of frame this conversation in an tick of a different way. and that is how this race could change a bet, not a lot, but a bit he hasn't picked his running mate yet, and you just heard kristi noem saying pretty much point blank. he should pick a woman she would like for it to be her. i don't know if it's going to be her. >> we got the list of the people who have gotten there vetting materials. >> there's only one woman on that list and that is elise stefanik of new york the woman who pretty much hands down could help him win more than any horse is nikki haley? >> i don't know if it helped with me. i mean, it's it's listen i want us to you're already getting vote for him. i'm a reporters when republican, but i think nikki haley would cause problems for me because he would say the future of the party is not in good hands. and i think that's what people are looking for for the president when he chooses the vp, somebody who continues along with the policies and the priorities are important to him, and nikki haley, just as matches up. so i think that's the challenge are going to have and she hasn't shown a propensity, even moved towards the issues that trump voters care about and what the voters are going to care about in this party. going to care about are more of these? things that president trump's talking about. they're talking about tariffs. we've me scott's and shock here. i'm shocking. we're now the party of tariffs and our party wants more of it. like i've never predicted that our party is moving and that the reality is as nikki haley is not moving with the party i think the issue is abortion rights and that's why democrats have over-performed. when i was in wisconsin across the state. i mean, there's still an arcane law there that bans abortion when people were talking about is the right to access to reproductive health, the right to access to contraception and the fact that there's only one woman candidate on the running mate for donald trump shows that there's still out-of-touch and that's why women are going to win this election for president biden, i think that's what he's numbers are moving in the cbs poll and that's why i'm optimistic that he's going to get reelected i actually heard brian, i think you need a running mate. first of all, the number one thing is do no harm and being a second is you have to have someone who is going to unabashedly support your agenda, like you cannot have somebody out there who is pulling their punches on a daily basis. and so the list that he has outright now are a group of people that have shown time and again, they are willing to step up and defend him and fight for his agenda nikki haley has a lot of positions that i agree with, but but she has a big problem with donald trump. she said at time and again, i'm not sure that makes the best running. >> it's clear donald trump is continues to have trouble with women voters and consolidating suburban women. kamala harris, vegas and an excellent job. prosecuting the case for joe biden. i think they should consider if i don't want to give trump advice, but he might want to consider a woman, although i think the challenge for many women would be how do i defend some of them massage any of this man credibly, i think this is nikki haley's problem while trying to get people to vote for him. >> all right. we are out of time. we didn't get to the fact that donald trump was raising money from silicon valley billionaires pores. okay. all right. there you go. you got it in there. you've got it in there. thanks. is everybody. >> and governor gretchen whitmer is back. >> believe we can see here and here, which is a great thing and she's going to come back to finish our interview on the other side of the break, don't go anywhere five good things listen wherever you get your podcasts centrum, it scientifically formulated to help you take charge of your home. said trump is everybody. i hope he foundations supporting your 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for political reasons what do you think you know what? >> i don't know how to weigh in on that dana, i'll just say this. i saw and i was happy to see you when the president was asked about this, he'll have confidence in the judicial system it's not going to undermine it and i think we'll see how it plays out. but right now, we know that in this country, there is a stark choice in front of us between a president who respects the rule of law and a former president who is a convicted felon who wants to use the implements of government to go after his enemies and is running on vengeance and grievance as his platform versus the sitting president who has delivered forward this country and respects the judiciary and wants to shore up this democracy. it's a lot at stake should the president lean lean-in more on the kind of message you just delivered you know what i think it's important for us to be talking about these things the american people are busy, they're good, hardworking people who expect their government to work as hard as they do and to be as good if not better than they are, to respect the oath of office, to respect our institutions, to fight for every american's right to make their own decisions about their bodies, to have a voice and a vote in this democracy. >> and i think all of those things are very much at stake here. so i'm going to be talking about that. i'm going to be reminding people and i'm confident that the average person in this country was just trying to get ahead is ultimately going to be a part of the direction of this election and is going to weigh in and vote for joe biden. >> governor. i don't need to tell you how important your state of michigan is going to be when it comes to who is going to be the next president in your state, there is a third third-party candidate and his name is robert kennedy jr. he is going to be on the ballot there. he are 9% support in one recent michigan pole that's more than enough to tip the scales in what is sure to be a close election. how worried are you about having rfk jr. on the ballot and what it means for president biden's chances of winning there well this is michigan. dana has, you know, elections are always close here. i remind people all the time, don't clutch your pearls when we're down a couple of points, do not celebrate when we're up a couple of points. this is going to be a close election all the way through. but here's what i know. when you get on the ground and you show up and you talk to people well, and you listen helps make sure that you stay focused on the things that matter. president biden has huge list of accomplishments were seeing on shoring of supply chains. we're seeing the growth of good manufacturing jobs. this is the first president in a long time that has been able to deliver on emphasis structure and has a real manufacturing vision that is, that is playing out every day and good paying jobs. certainly, kennedy or any third party candidate gives me some concern and it's to be taken seriously and that's why we're showing up and we're working hard and all 83 counties earn the votes of the people. there are a lot of good traditional republicans who don't feel at home with the convicted felon at the top of the ballot, who know that kennedy has got lots of far out wild ideas about science and the future. and it doesn't even have the support of his own family. all that being said, we can't make any assumptions. we got to earn every single boat and that's what we're doing. >> okay. governor gretchen whitmer, thank you so much for being here this morning. i really appreciate it. thanks, dana. happy pride, everyone great jacket and thank you so much for spending your sunday morning with us. fareed zakaria picks it up next were you worried the wedding would be too much another destination? >> why didn't we just scott by for persisters it nap book, it's married in epoch, my daughter who gets with him can we get out of here? >> you'd never asked 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and macron's surveyed the troops. and laid a wreath under the arc at the tomb of the unknown soldier. at both leaders are expected to attend a working lunch following the ceremony before giving statements to the press in just a few hours from now, then macron will welcome the president and first lady for a state dinner. the close ties between the us and france are on full display de as the president, president biden continues to push his message of saving democracy and freedom after his d-day anniversary speech on friday let's go to paris now, a cnn senior white house correspondent, kayla tausche president's biden macron are expected to hold in talks today of this working lunch. hit the high points. what will they be addressing in the meetings well, they're going to be a few a topics of discussion that will figure prominently. >> first how they can strengthen the nato alliance, how they can continue supporting ukraine, and how they can secure the indo-pacific with president macron not willing to be quite as hawkish towards china as president biden has been thus far, but there will be some cooperation it's a maritime cooperation that the two countries are set to announce. present macron is also expected to share his thoughts on how president biden is handling this situation in gaza where he has broken with the president's position of seeking a negotiated peace process to reach a two-state solution. macron has said that he his ready to recognize a palestinian state. and there has been frustration here in france over that civilian casualties and the humanitarian toll that's been exacted in gaza as israel has prosecuted its war against hamas the administration has said that president biden expects a frank and open discussion, one that's candid and expects it. there may be some areas of disagreement there, but despite those areas of disagreement, both on the handling of the situation in gaza, as well as a high-profile break between the two allies a few years ago, over a submarine partnership that france was excluded from administration. aides say that the allies have never been closer, that their relations kinship has not been weakened in any ways by those fractures. remember, state visits are reserved for only the closest of allies and the white house has taken note that france is the us is oldest ally, and certainly those leaders standing shoulder to shoulder on those issues projecting this image of strength and partnership to the world is one of the main goals of this state visit, this happening today. so that will be really the scope of this state visit. you mentioned the press statements that will be happening later this afternoon. there has been some frustration that when president macron visited the us for a state visit at the white house, there was a press conference that was conducted tween the two democracies with two questions from members of each country's press corps. that is not happening this week. there will be a press conference at the g7, but there will not be one. this at this visit, which has been a source of frustration for some here and the preska that we will not have have an opportunity to ask questions of the leaders here, all that to say there will be pumped, there will be circumstances. there will be pumped. there will be just a lot of majesty and magnanimous things that you will see today if that arrival ceremony is any indication patient of what remains in the day to come, viktor and emmer? >> yeah. it continues to be one spectacular welcoming ceremony. kayla tausche. good to have you. thank you very much. let's talk with the cnn military analysts or tenants general mark hertling and see in an international diplomatic editor, nic robertson. and max boot, who was a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations and columnist for the washington post. max is the author of the new book reagan, his life and legend welcome to you all. max, let's start with you. and as a both leaders head eventually to this working lunch, talk to me about how you would characterize biden add macron's relationship? basically, there are political calculations at play as well. and then the bakr i should say, front of macron's mind he has to be thinking about the potential return of trump to the white house. >> i would say that presidents biden in macron have a very good relationship and as you say, i think a qur'an is very happy to have joe biden in the white house rather than having to deal with placating donald trump, but i think the the anecdote that joe biden often tells us how that when he first came back into office and met with macron and he said, you know, america is back in macron and others said, but for how long and i think that's the shadow of trump hangs over all this. and of course, but even though biden and trump in macron do have a good the relationship they do have a lot of things that its costs including macron proposal to send french trainers into ukraine or is suggesting that they could be sent into ukraine, which is something that biden has expressed doubts about are or suggest that it's not a good idea. so i think there are things for them to hash over, but mainly i think this is just a wonderful moment of transatlantic unity to highlight how close the alliance is under biden angel greatly endangered or would be if trump were to come back into office? >> general hurtling as kayla mentioned, gaza and israel's war with hamas will certainly be something discuss today. there was the idf operation that. happened at a refugee camp that freed for israeli hostages some of the concerns here around the icc seeking an arrest warrant for netanyahu, while paris backs that washington called it outrageous the backing and supplying of weapons how significant are these differences on gaza, on support for israel between these two? >> well i'll try them with what max you said victor and that is they are certainly there are certainly a close relationship between president biden and president in a car but they do have some differences president macron has been very vocal in making pronouncements about different things. he is supported different things. then president biden has so well, their relationship is very close and they see democracy and the emotions of what is occurred over this last week as being similar, they do have some differences of opinion and i heard you earlier talking about the lunches and dinners. it will occur today, certainly, presidents and dignitaries du. a lot of eating and drinking further country but this is a time for them to hash out some of those disagreements, some of those differences of opinions, i think president biden has got to stay very succinctly what he believes should be happening in gaza and in ukraine, and how the nato-led clients should move forward. so that's what these dinners and lunches are all about outside the view of the kind of pomp and circumstances we saw this morning at the art to draw jennifer, i just want to follow up on that regarding these differences in and specifically on ukraine, we heard on friday, president biden apologize to velocity more zelenskyy about the delayed aid president biden obviously blamed for that but after mr. zelenskyy thanked the president for that decision to allow us arms to be used in a limited way to counter attacks inside russia. >> he added quote, there are some detail hells on the battlefield that you need to hear from us. >> i heard a bit of frustration there and zelensky's tone then, what do you think he's referring to? >> obviously he's referring to these restraints? >> well, what the presence, the once-key was likely talking about was the ukrainian targeting processes. amara president biden has specifically said that these long-range weapons should be used for an operational and tactical role. >> what does that mean? an operational or tactical deep strike using things like atacms and artillery pieces and potentially even jet fighters has to do with what can affect the front lines, what kinds of things are ready by russia to literally attack into the ukrainian defensive positions now, there's a difference of opinion in terms of military leaders saying what you have to do is not only du, deep strikes against those tactical targets, but what russia continues to do is push their forces further and further back from the front lines so that they are not under ukrainian attack capabilities. >> so that's what i think president zelenskyy is going hi to talk about how far inland can we hit? can we hit air bases that are launching some of the glide bombs? can we launch or can we attack missile launch sites so that some of our cities don't continue to come on your cat. the problem with all that is many of those russian launch sites and air bases are deep within russian territory and cause concerns from russia about attacks within their federation that could interfere with say, their nuclear defense strip, that they have put that forward saying, hey, our radars for nuclear and strategic defenses have been interfered with by ukraine. so we're saying that that is truly an attack on mother russia and this is what president biden wants to avoid primarily for the purpose of this war, not expanding into a greater european war with other nations involved you're watching the precession parade possession here along the song sally's a president's biden and macron are writing there together as indicated by the flags on the front of that vehicle we have max boot and lieutenant general hurtling with us mess. >> let me come to you and general hurtling says that this is the time to hash those things out. some of those differences. do you expect that there will be decisions that there will be resolutions to any of these differences today. or will they just be further discussions i'm suspecting there will be further discussions, but i mean, i think these as mark hertling said, i mean, i think these kinds of discussions are very important because normally these discussions are conducted at the staff level or with foreign ministers. >> it's either good is very important to have the heads of state directly involved. and this is going to these kinds of occasions or the time when the heads of state have the most amount of time to spend with one another as mark hertling mentioned, there's gonna be a lot of lunches, a lot of dinners, a lot of ceremonial occasions. but while all that is going on, they can also have very substantive talks. and of course some of the stuff they're going to talk about is going to be the kind of stuff anybody talks about at lunch or dinner. it's going to be there's gonna be some polite chit chat, but i think they were also get to some of the nitty-gritty and try to hash these things out. but i think i think the big thing that a macron and other europeans are going to be looking for is something that biden really can't offer which is reassuring they want reassurance that the united states will stay committed in europe, that we will remain committed to the defense of europe. we will remain staunch and standing up for ukraine and opposing russian aggression. and of course, the best that biden can say is that's what i want to do, but i don't we have free and fair elections that america and if if i joe biden lose in november everybody knows that they could have we could have a very different policy come january 20 of next year. and so i think there is just there's gonna be a lot of hand-holding as well as a lot of hand-wringing about the outcome with the political process in the united states. >> and because president biden will not be able to give that reassurance that he will remain in office for another term. dig robertson to you standing by you to do expect president macron to be even more vocal, i guess more aggressive as the election, american election approaches as he has been pushing for the continent's self-reliance to take its own security collective defense more seriously absolutely. i think this is exactly the direction that europe is headed in now, because it recognizes that if not now, in the future, it may face those decisions are not every country has ready for it far from it. in fact, you have some real outliers in the european union right now, like viktor orban, the prime minister in hungry or robert fit. so the prime minister in slovakia who are both pro-putin, who are both against europe supporting or the european union financially militarily supporting ukraine this is sort of the headwinds in europe, at least that president macron faces course what he has been talking about in france has talked about for some time is a more united defense policy in europe where you become in the same way it's more similar to united states in terms of manufacturing armaments you only have a few fighter jets. you have the f 60 and you have the 15, you have the f35 in europe, there are many, many different arms manufacturers and they produce for their nations are a handful of nations within the european in union, a commonality of armament making, which is really the pressure that faces nato, right now. in terms of getting armaments in big enough quantities quickly to ukraine, that you can do this better by rationalizing a pan, europe p and defense industry. and of course, each country wants to have a big slice of that. but this is the direction that macron has encouraged european leaders to look at in the past. and one that would potentially where at the european union, which doesn't have a common defense minister, let said as ahead of foreign policy, your sip borrell at the moment, but it doesn't have a head of defense in the same way that that is something that nato does. but if united states didn't support nato in the way that it does today, then that would fall to the european union. so macron really has been a sort of a liter and a pusher for that within the within europe. and it's even his strongest partner, perhaps in the 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were taken from the nova music festival on october 7. now, among the freed hostages is noah, are khamanei in one of the first hamas videos released of the massacre, she was seen being abducted on a motorcycle. >> we're joined now by cnn international correspondent paula hancocks and cnn international corresponded ben wiedemann, polo, first to you, what do you know about the operation? >> well, victor, what we're hearing is from the idf, the israeli military also, the security agency saying it was a joint operation that happened in central gaza in the area of nuseirat. it was a significant operation which at this point we understand has left at least 45 killed on the ground. and hundreds injured according to our cnn producer, on the ground. but what it has also meant is that for israeli hostages have been rescued and they have been brought back to israel. now, according to the statement they say that they are in good medical condition. they have been taken to a medical centre near tel aviv to receive a treatments at this point, we have already seen video of one of the hostages you were just mentioned they're no money receiving a phone call from the israeli president, hertz. but there are four that have been released, so no or argon money, who as we remember, we did see her on the back of a motorbike being taken at the nova musical festival on october 7, that also under aid caused law for 27-year-old is a russian israeli citizen who was working security at that musical festival also, shlomi cif 40-year-old, he was also working security and i'll mog mia jan 820, one-year-old. so for hostages, have been released at this point, we understand from the idf that they are all in medical condition. this was saturday morning that this was happening and it was described by the idf for the police and the isa is a common plex special daytime operation in nuseirat. it is the third successful operation that's the israeli military has carried out since october 7 to try and retrieve some of those, those hostages that were taken on october 7 by hamas, by other militant groups we understand there's one in october 1 in february, 3, released jointly during those operations there, but that's the latest that we have at this point from the israeli military, side, right? >> four, i was really hostages, rescued in that operation. paula, thank you. let's go to been we'd have been now and ben, we were so get just a few minutes ago about this being the de that benny gantz, a key member of the prime minister's war cabinet, was expected to announce whether he would go through with his vow to leave the israeli government. that announcement has now been postponed is it directly connected to this operation that free these hostages we think so. >> i mean, a clearly does not want to steal the limelight with this one bit of good news for the israelis. his problems, his issues with prime minister netanyahu have not been resolved oh, they have fundamental differences. they were political rivals in the past. so that doesn't change. but i think for now, he's it's not canceling, probably not canceling his announcement, but he's certainly is going to postpone it while is rarely a digest. this news, i mean, keep been mining, is polo was mentioning back in what was it? october and february between those 23 hostages were released. today for them? that brings to seven 77 hostages released after eight months of intense warfare in the gaza strip keeping in mind, of course that what was much more successful at getting hostages released was that ceasefire in late november of last year where if i recall correctly, at least 40 hostages were released. so certainly what we've seen since that very brief eight days cease fire that the military we operations have continued and have today had some success, but until now it hasn't really resulted in much other than, as i said, just seven hostages released. in the meantime, we've had more than 36,000 palestinians have been killed we picked her. >> amara was showing you a video here of the two of the hostages that are coming off that helicopter and going on onto i believe that's a medical transport vehicle. one hand over his mouth, the other throwing his arms up in the air. we also saw a video so of celebration in the streets at the news of the rescue of four hostages from this refugee camp. as we get more pictures in this moment that so many families, those who are related to these hostages and those who are not have hoped for rallied for protested four to get these people who were now eight months, eight months since the october 7 attack good day almost to the de, have been held as hostages in gaza. >> what a moment to watch as these freed hostages walked off military helicopter are just incredible moments there we're going to leave it there. paula hancocks and ben wade. a man. thank you so much. we're going to take a quick break back after this the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes 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yes, absolutely. victor, there were the other thing i'd comment on, the hostages were near the nest neutral refugee camp, which is in northwestern, more the center part of god, while the operations in rafah continue you, this, this makes it very clear that operations across the gap gaza strip in these specifically the underground, subterranean facilities the tunnels that hamas has built underneath different infrastructure as what's been critical. so yeah, the intelligence is what drove this. i'm sure this wasn't just stumbling upon four different hostages in two different locations. this has to be an intelligence driven operation, which he israeli military has been trying to do since the start of this campaign and max sent to you and what what does this mean for the hostage and ceasefire negotiations that are on going? >> also, knowing that benny gantz, a cabinet minister we'll now he postponed his announcement of resignation apparently due to the release of the rescue of these hostages does this increased pressure on netanyahu to bring more of the hostages home well, obviously it's very good news to get these hostages out. >> i mean, i think netanyahu has actually been fairly receptive to the latest ceasefire plan, which is being pushed by the biden administration in a coalition of other nations. i think the holdup right now is hamas. they're not agreeing to that plan because basically the hamas leadership thinks that seems to think that it doesn't matter how many palestinians are killed or how much that people of gaza suffer because there's longer as the hamas leadership in some of the fighters are secured here are these underground tunnels they can still hold out and essentially come out after the israeli military retreats. and i think they i wouldn't be unfortunately, i wouldn't be not optimistic about an immediate ceasefire coming because these negotiations have been going on for many months you'd have not gone anywhere and i think for israel, they still face some very difficult issues. namely what happens in the months ahead they don't want to occupy the gaza strip, but then the question is who is going to bring security to that area what is the day after look like? and that's something where netanyahu has still refused to provide any kind of vision because it would be two political difficult, politically difficult for him because his coalition partners don't want any role for the palestinian authority and at the same time, there's very little support for actually having the idf occupy the gaza strip and so this doesn't really solve israel's intractable problems. unfortunately, i'm sorry to say it doesn't mean that the offensive was going to wind down anytime soon general didn't answer the questions. >> it doesn't resolve any of those issues, but i wonder as we look at this video of hostages who are free and the celebration in the streets politically how much time does this by netanyahu relief from pressure both domestically with the pending against resignation and the pressure from the us and other allies around the world well, i don't think it's going to gain a whole lot of time internationally. >> victor, it certainly will gain some time domestically from mr. netanyahu because he has a lot of supporters in the israeli government. i'd like to point out though one thing that our great report are, then we amend mentioned he said the last big tranche of hostages occurred after the cetacean abbas still cities several months ago, and there hasn't been that kind of released since then. yeah, i'd like to point out though that israel has made the opera to hamas on multiple occasions to have ceasefire in exchange for hostage yes. and hamas continues to play with them on this. they will bring them right up to the doorstep of a ceasefire with the potential for release of hostages from both the palestinian camps and israel, but also the ones that they took on october the seventh. and then at the very end, just when there's hope, hamas dashes those hope i think that's what max was describing so it means it's going to mean a continuation of the operation. and there is certainly a disconnect between the biden administration and the netanyahu government in terms of what they should do, in terms of a ceasefire. and the three-phase plan that president biden pointed out that he was offering allegedly with mr. netanyahu is approval a few days ago. but i think as long as the hostages are still in captivity and hamas shows no interest in releasing them. remember these four that were kept, were recovered this morning alive. we're not given up by hamas. they were driven by intelligence operations by the israeli military. so i think you're going to see a continuation of that kind of intelligence. and plus, i'd add that these hostages will also be able to add to that intelligence in terms of their type of treatment where they'd been moved from the number of moves they've made what locations are they putting their fellow hostages in? they may be able to add a lot of information and intelligence for the israeli military to go after some morehouse. >> it really is remarkable that they were able to rescue these hostages eight months after the war started on tovar seven max. if and when benny gantz announces his withdrawal from the emergency war cabinet he is a centrist. what kind of impact do you see that happening on netanyahu's government? do you expect? to see more of a hard line approach that's very hard to say. >> i'm not sure that that much is going to change. i mean, benny gantz can lead, but it's not going to bring down the government the issue that could actually bring down the government is question of conscripting ultra ultra-orthodox men into the israeli military because some of the ultra religious parties in the the cabinet are completely opposed to that. and if the israeli supreme court gives the go ahead to conscript the ultra-orthodox, that could actually be a crisis that could bring down the government. i don't think that the benny gantz departure will bring down the cabinet. i mean, i think my it's a little bit hard to know exactly what goes on behind the doors of the war cabinet. my sense is that benny gantz is certainly more open than netanyahu has to the idea of having the palestinian authority play a role in governing gaza after the war. but i think honor has also been pretty much of a hardliner on rooting out hamas fighters, even at the cost of substantial numbers of palestinian civilians, deaths i'm not sure he's diametrically opposed to netanyahu on, on a lot of issues. i mean, i think he certainly has a perception as being more of a moderate but he he's not, he's certainly not a dove i believe the conversation there max boot and general mark hertling. thank you very much. liberate back hey, mom, how many should i decorate each have ran have blue. that's a really tough call. who are you if you look at the latest data? >> you're probably going to need 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for weeks. there underwent intensive training. >> they reached their lives to save the lives of all hostages i just incredible to hear the details there. >> nic robertson is back with as you've been covering, spent a lot of time covering these attacks on the war between israel and hamas. and just hearing those details about this, you know, the hostages were rescued from two separate locations in daylight while they were under fire. what do you make of all this? >> this is such a success story for the idf and for the families right now, this is the moment they've been waiting for i was at the hospital just outside tel aviv earlier on this year. i think it was january, perhaps february when 23 hostages were were freed. that was a nighttime raid it meant laying down a lot of fire, a lot of palestinians in the neighborhood were killed just to get these hostages freed. but for those families and you could feel the euphoria at the hospital back then. so outside tel aviv. so i can only imagine and we're witnessing house some, and, some of their celebrations. but i can only imagine how it must feel for the doctors there who are real professionals in helping these hostages come out of this horrible environment that they've been in. i mean, i'm looking you look at no ag money now she was handed a telephone. the president of israel was congratulating or on the phone. but just look how pale shares go back and look at the video of when she was captured she was tanned she was clearly terrified in that video. so it's quite amazing to see her now having enjoyed more than 250 days of captivity surviving it. but you can just see the way, the way that she looks now, these hostages, it appears have just been kept either underground or completely out of sunlight for so long now, it's a big process as we know, we're talking to doctors back then earlier on in the year about the process of recovery for the hostages and it's going to take a lot of time. there's your emotion. noah got to meet with her father again. >> there were kisses. >> these these are huge moments, but it's an an intense trauma that they've been through and it's going to take a long, long time if ever to begin to unwind that. but but the medical staff at the hospital that absolutely professionals in that know their job. but this is a moment of pure celebration. i think obviously for these families, but more broadly, and israel and a desperate sense for those other hostage families now, who, who, who desperately hope it's their loved ones next, you live pictures here of the celebrations as those for israeli hostages, as we said, located from rescued from two separate locations. all four taking from the nova music festival on october 7, they are now a free medical checks under happening right now. we'll continue to get you more on this breaking news. nic robertson. thank you for that. quick rate we'll be back hi sometimes the best thing you can do with intelligence is shared with your adversary he 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news given how momentous it is for that situation and the fact that the war between israel and hamas and the current situation for civilians and humanitarian aid in gaza was one of the areas where the administration expected president macron to be very frank and very candid with his assessment of how the white house has been handling that situation. >> so certainly for the us, this is seen as a welcome development. it's something they have been pushing for for some time and certainly that is welcome news that president biden can bring to the table as part of that discussion. other topics that the two liters are expected to discuss are the strengthening of the nato alliance going forward and going into this summit celebrating the 75th anniversary of the alliance next month that need to continue supporting ukraine for the long-term. and what sorts of resources and assets can be deployed to ukraine at this stage of the war after president biden has just received a detailed assessment from 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