the hill. it s significant. the fact that they re doing this, the fact that they re calling this urgent, the fact that they re telling folks that they want to do this tomorrow, it seems that something has happened here. this appears to be documents, perhaps, that the inspector general has obtained through the lawyers at the state department, perhaps relating to ukraine. that s at least what we re told. but there could be other issues here. but whatever it is, it is urgent, and it is something that the inspector general says needs to be done right away. and that is why they are briefing all of these the staff members of these committees, something very significant here certainly. is the state department i.g. acting independently of secretary pompeo? yeah, absolutely, completely independent. that is his role here, the inspector general. he s the watchdog. he s the guy who kind of keeps an eye on things here. so something has come to his attention that is pretty serious, and we ll s
we could hear new revelations when kurt volker testifies tomorrow. this comes in the wake after he quit friday. what will he say? that s anyone s guess. we know he s mentioned numerous times in the whistle-blower complaint. quote, state department officials including ambassadors had spoken with mr. giuliani in an attempt to contain the damage and that the ambassadors sought to help ukrainian leaders understand and respond to the different messages they were receiving from official u.s. channels on the one hand and from mr. giuliani on the other. that prompted rudy giuliani to reveal text messages of some of his conversations with volker which giuliani said the state department knew all along he was
assume the worst. we ll assume you re trying to hide something. jackie, it s interesting that the ig, the state department ig, this is a different ig, is going before congress today. we just learned that he s going to provide staff with copies of documents related to the state department and the ukraine. one could surmise will they say anything about giuliani s assertion he was ordered by the state department to have these conversations. mike pompeo said you didn t give my staff the appropriate technical forms in advance and you re intimidating them. what does it mean the ig has requested this and is turning over documents? i don t know if we know yet, poppy. we know this is unusual. we know it s sudden that this happened. we don t know what they re going
including house intelligence and senate intelligence, which is taking up the whistle-blower issue. so this is going to be in a secure room sometime tomorrow on the hill. it s significant. the fact that they re doing this, the fact that they re calling this urgent, the fact that they re telling folks that they want to do this tomorrow, it seems that something has happened here. this appears to be documents, perhaps, that the inspector general has obtained through the lawyers at the state department, perhaps relating to ukraine. that s at least what we re told. but there could be other issues here. but whatever it is, it is urgent, and it is something that the inspector general says needs to be done right away. and that is why they are briefing all of these the staff members of these committees, something very significant here certainly. is the state department i.g. acting independently of secretary pompeo? yeah, absolutely, completely independent. that is his role here, the inspec
obama administration. he is seen as a straight shooter concerned mostly just about the facts. and you talk about the mystery surrounding what he ll say. again, the idea that he is independent from the state department political apparatus. talk to me about the range of opportunities here. we ve already got a range that went through the inspector general. there is some speculation that we don t know that the state department ig is coming forward with something else here. we don t know if this is another whistle-blower. we don t know if this is about documents. we don t know if this is about efforts to keep people from testifying or cooperating with these congressional investigations. it could be any of those. it could be none of those. but what it reminds us, john, i think, is that as much as people want to sort of game out what they think is going to happen politically to the president