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That the federal government cannot dole out subsidies. they have to go through state exchanges. if dana -- if this gets to the supreme court and is overturned, this is the only hope for this entire bill being dismantled, and it could happen. >> i think jesse is on to something about the numbers not really adding up. remember early, the first few months, they found for every enrollee, there was, i think there were four medicaid recipients signing up for medicaid. they were going on, finding out i...
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Enrollees. >> late take paying. it appears the in the federal exchanges the most conservative guess is 20% have not paid. in some of the state exchanges as many as a third or more have not paid. another state exchanges like connecticut, 92% paid. so varies tremendously. the fact is a big chunk of people have selected a plan but they have not paid so theyre not really insured. >> if you and i were to do this going online to shop, amazon.com, and -- shoes. >> you have your cart full but you havent...
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Sebelius, wont tell us how many people have actually paid, the day that we have from state exchanges that indicates some of those states, a third havent paid, and on the federal exchanges, as many as 20% have been paid. >> so in other words, if you put something in your basket on amazon, its not the same as buying it. >> and it doesnt show up at your house either. >> thats right. >> amazon has it figured out. they can tell if you pay for it or not. >> they know! >> but how come the federal gover...
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Big supporter of obamacare, oregon, a huge problem in the exchanges. so if the federal exchanges are getting in line now, healthcare.gov, its the state exchanges where people are having incredible amounts of problem on top of the list, oregon and minnesota where people literally cannot get plans. same sort of structural issues we saw back in november. >> they have had to set up all sorts of call centers experiencing super long wait times. some states are going the old fashioned route to do pen a...
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Aside from confident claims we get from other officials about how many people are signing up for obamacare and will sign up before the march deadline, listen closely as vice president joe biden suggested the totals might be lower during that stop in minneapolis. listen. >> initially we talked about by the end of this period having seven million people lined up. we may not get to seven but were going to get to five or six and that is a hello of hell start, people. >> reporter: congressional budge...
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