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Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20191209 16:59:00

caster to come testify and lay out the views on the house republican committee that was detailed in the report. the democratic report detailed everything that came to ukraine. republicans, on the other hand, are going to lay out a pretty vigorous defense, point-by-point rebuttal. they re going to say the president did nothing wrong, paint everything in the most favorable light to the president saying it was a perfectly good explanation on how he handled relations with ukraine. that s how steve caster, the republican counsel, is going to detail this in a 45-minute presentation. after that is when the round of staff questioning will begin. each members on the committee will then get five minutes to question the witnesses throughout, and democrats starting to hammer home the argument that this is all part of a larger pattern of behavior by the president acting corruptly, violating his oath of office, something that is clearly impeachable in their view. republicans saying there is

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom with Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto 20191209 14:08:00

democratic side, stephen castor, they will make their arguments, on the democrat side in favor of impeachment, the republican side clearly against impeachment. 30 minutes is a long time, actually, for a lawyer to present a matter before congress, having testified before congress and prepared five-minute statements, 30 minutes is a long time. they do have at least from the majority perspective, a very lengthy report to base his statements on and so he s really going to want to, barry berke, to go through the constitutional grounds for impeachment in depth and it will really be i m interested to see how stephen castor for the minority is able to counter those arguments on the constitutional basis. we ll hear from the democrats side. first the republican side second. here we go. the chair authorized to declare recesses i object. objection noted. the quorum is present.

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom with Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto 20191209 14:04:00

us are familiar with the questioning that he posed, he will join in this discussion and barry berke will leave. it s a challenge for steve castor to have to do both hearings. barry berke will be able to focus on the report that the house judiciary committee prepared regarding the constitutional grounds for impeachment. mr. goldman will focus on the facts, the extensive factual record that house intelligence committee was able to develop over a period of weeks through witnesses, and steve castor, for the republicans, has to be able to do both and straddle both of those and argue on the law piece and the constitutional precedent for the first part and pivot and move over to the factual records which really, again, i will be curious to see whether he is willing to take on the factual allegations or whether he uses the republican talking points that are more of diversions than counters to the factual

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom with Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto 20191209 14:02:00

lawyer in new york city. so it will be interesting to see how their professional backgrounds inform how they express themselves before the committees today. all three of them are very good. i think they will be able to put the best foot forward for their sides but they will be really pressed here because as we have been discussing, this is a very contentious partisan process and so each one is going to be closely cross examined by the party in opposition. there you see berry berke shaking hands with steven castor. this is ross, you re familiar with these witnesses as well. yeah. and, you know, we ve seen a bit of each one of them before and i you know, i think what we re going to see is them sort of honor, you know, their experiences. goldman is this career prosecutor. we saw some very, very crisp,

Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom with Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto 20191209 14:03:00

direct questioning by him. i think we will expect and should expect that he s going to be very crisp and sharp. same thing with barry berke, experienced courtroom lawyer and steve castor has more experience than either of the democrats lawyers with the institution of the house of representatives. but, you know, interestingly, none of them are, you know, sort of elected politicians. it will be interesting to see how they sort of play to the masses, how they play to tv which is not normally what the lawyers are doing. barry berke and steve castor are the witnesses making their respective cases during the first about hour long session, carrie, and then in the second round daniel goldman from the intelligence committee, all of

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