This. That was independent candidate ross perot during the second of three residential debates in 1992 talking about the u. S. Debt. The alexion biz the taxes businessmen won 19 of the vote. He ran a second independent president ial campaign in 1986. Tonight, he is our focus on the contenders. Thanks for being with us. We are doing this series as a way to look at American History through the lens of president ial candidates who failed in their quest for the white house but had an impact on American History. Ross perot is our final 14 people we are profiling. Tonight, joining us for our discussion is historian and biographer Doug Brinkley. As a person who has done a number of powder fees on 20thcentury political figures, what interest you about ross perot . He has a pioneer spirit in him. He harkens back to the 19th century. He is not politics as usual. He cares about the country. Patriotism has become a cheap word. Ross perot is a super patriot. He is less interested in money and polit