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Campaign. this is a challenge for him. he is standing fully in the spotlight and glare of a presidential campaign. >> that could be challenging. i just think he does have a nice, slow and steady approach to things. and he is a real guy in terms of, you know everyone talks about how he didnt finish college and all these different things. he has real issues that americans con front. debt, a family hes trying to raise on a budget. these are not necessarily bad things, mark halpern. >> no. i mean i ...