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About long as the defense gets it eventually, no conviction will be overturned. if it turns out that there is ex scum to -- >> are you kidding me -- >> can i finish? if there evidence with held that the defense never saw, that can be overturned -- >> leave it there. mark clearly disagrees. i sense well have more time to talk about this, maybe in an hour and ten minutes from now. stick around everybody. thank you jeff, danny and mark. well see you at 10:00 eastern. "ac 360 self-defense or murder,...

See him getting into or trying to play on a motion. i think what hes going to try to do is hes going to try to emphasize, this is what the facts are, this is the law, and if you follow the law and do what youre supposed to do, you will find mr. zimmerman not guilty. and i think hes going to just passionately for a large portion of this, what it is to have reasonable doubt. i think hes going to detail exactly what the facts show, and i think hes going to do what i was saying last night, the defin...

>> thats not true. i understood her very well. >> i just want to play this -- >> sunny, you have been bringing your own stuff to the table in this case and you know it. >> not true. >> true -- >> lets move on -- >> all of you -- >> all right. you guys can talk about this later. lets -- i do want to play the moment that danny talked about playing -- bringing out the skittles, bringing out the drink, that -- you know, an effective moment dan nae sany s prosecutor used. i want to play that. >> tray...

Everyone in line. >> is there any -- i mean, at this point did anybody see any reasons for appeal or grounds for appeal, if in fact, there is a conviction? >> absolutely. there are absolutely -- >> what? >> many grounds for appeal in this case. >> name one. >> what? >> oh, name one? i can give you a -- >> start with one. >> the prosecution discovery, ill start with one. ill start with the prosecutions late breaking discovery. the constantly dumping upon the defense of discovery that should have ...

Tragedy but at the same time, this to me was an abomination. i just didnt understand what they thought was being accomplished. sunny says that the jury was captivated. okay, the jury was captivated. maybe they were captivated by what is this guy on because i dont understand why hes yelling at us. >> danny, do you think it was effective, the theater of it? >> hes maximizing what he has. the skittles and iced tea. they arent an element of the crime. they shouldnt have anything to do with the case ...

Idea to channel that anger towards her honor, but ultimately, the manslaughter was going to be given, no matter what. we had that argument yesterday about the propriety of lesser included and the judge did what she -- what the law calls on her to do. >> jeff, did it surprise you to -- the idea of bringing up this third murder charge? >> it was outrageous. really outrageous attempt by the prosecution. you can say what you want about this case. its not child abuse. i thought, again, the judge was ...

First of all, nobody talks over the other. please dont go off focus here. >> no, no, no -- >> dont no, no, no me, either. >> reporter: it may be a turnoff to some but to a cnn analyst that presented cases before judge nelson, its a breathe of fresh airplane. >> this case could have easily unravelled and imploded. the judge was going to have no part of it. she will let everybody know who is in charge and it will be her. >> reporter: judge nelson wasnt originally chosen to hear this case. she repl...

To some but to a cnn analyst that presented cases before judge nelson, its a breathe of fresh airplane. >> this case could have easily unravelled and imploded. the judge was going to have no part of it. she will let everybody know who is in charge and it will be her. >> reporter: judge nelson wasnt originally chosen to hear this case. she replaced another judge who the defense claimed had a bias against zimmerman. shes been serving on the blenc since 19 99. she earned her law degree from south t...

Its a lot more effective, and i think at a certain point it looks like as i said before, that there is something wrong with your case if you have to scream at the jury the entire time. >> i think thats an over statement -- >> emotion is good at a certain point. >> but that part of the summation is sofective because the brought us back to why this case got national attention in the first place. what kind of a country do we live in that a 17-year-old boy cant go to the corner and buy candy and sod...

Understand how this was masterful. if anything, it was comical in a bizarre way. i mean, yes, there is a dead 17-year-old and everybody regrets that and thats a tragedy but at the same time, this to me was an abomination. i just didnt understand what they thought was being accomplished. sunny says that the jury was captivated. okay, the jury was captivated. maybe they were captivated by what is this guy on because i dont understand why hes yelling at us. >> danny, do you think it was effective, ...