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Antiscience mask mandates >> i dont even know what to say, david. he is talking about resisting and petty tyrants. this is a man educated in science by the way. i wouldnt have guessed that. where does the energy for this come from where it is not just the right fringe to eddie glaudes point. it is not just the right fringe but people who were otherwise main stream conservatives or libertarians who have gone over and crossed over some line into ridiculous. >> that is the united states senator we ...

Give it to him. thats who has denied him for two years and now were at the tail end of this thing. >> right. and there is this inability to get a win. right? if youre the great negotiator who is going to get the deal or to at least make what is not a great deal look better in a pr way, hes had plenty of opportunities to do that. and on the question of, have mainstream republicans left him, they did. in 2018, he lost every suburban county, orange county. that used to be the most conservative of c...

What is the bottom line on better days ahead for health care? >> look, this bill has been ground up. weve been watching it in real time, ground up in the collision between the gops historic ideology and its modern coalition so on the one hand you have the voices on the right, mike leigh, rand paul saying it doesnt go far enough in uprooting obamacare and a larger group of moderates and main stream conservatives who say look we are taking away coverage largely from people who vote for us. look at...

And also you have two very different points of view that are clashing over things. one example is over the secretary of state, because you have many main stream conservatives who are pushing for john bolton, of course, you remember him, former u.n. ambassador, pushing for him. and then you have others more trump loyalists pushing for say rudy giuliani for that key post. on other key national security posts, were hearing of greater agreement, jeff sessions as a leading contender for secretary of ...

He thinks the american people are behind him. what will change are main stream conservatives because they were afraid of primaries, the energy of the republican party is in the tea party, they went along. i think this was in a certain sense a rubicon. they wont go along any longer as easily as they did and cruz and the tea party have peaked. i have seen it in the question. will there be that courage in the house? >> they are supposed to get something done and the question for panel well start wi...

>> i think the republicans have a level of energy but inside that energy is their own problem and fissures and they are basically at the behest of a fringe group taking kroefl the party and their leaders are scared of it. >> do you agree, karen? >> absolutely. the tea partiers are pulling the republican party farther and farther to the right more and more to the fringe so moderate republicans, were already seeing this play itself out in a number of races across the country. i can think of one in...

Administration. i think highly of him. he has an incredible political future. this is the second time hes been compromised by the russia investigation. first by the flynn investigation. now this is the second time. so he has to figure out what his role is. as he surrogate for the president. >> i think he is his best policy surrogate out there. >> he has great credibility with main stream conservatives. the only reason maybe stream conservatives are hanging in there are they think the policy will...