and we know he s in his twilight, and as i like to say, senator mccain, we have the watch. we should let him go on with respect. but you know, one last thing i would like to say, general dunford, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff really needs to get sergeant major of the marine corps, mass petty officer of the navy and top sergeant of the air force and have a sit-down with the white house staff about honor and show them that the military won t allow that kind of talk in the white house or out of it. i m so glad, sir, a couple million people heard you just say that. someone had to say it. thank you so much, malcolm nance. coming up next, columnist george f. will says trump is no longer america s most repulsive public figure. he s here to tell us who he thinks is. hint, hint, it s mike pence. this is hardball, where the action and. but what a powerful life lesson.
information. natasha, this information about when he won t or when he will or think about it. i think it s this old tactic of, fight and talk at the same time. lots of meetings and lots of talk and says he doesn t have to agree to testify. he just doesn t do it. they re simply filibustering this as long as they possibly can. good word. but mueller s already is writing his obstruction report. we ve already seen that report. he s already identified four areas in which the president has allegedly obstructed justice. and he s writing that report and planning to release it by the summer, whether or not trump testifies. so ultimately, what david says is absolutely right. he doesn t really need trump s side of the story to determine that he did obstruct justice and try to end the investigation into his campaign. meanwhile, as we talk, more investigation, abc news is reporting that robert mueller is probing right now that donations made to trump s inaugural committee by americans wit
charlie sykes, and caroline polisi. coming up, that cruel mark made by a white house aide about senator mccain. the white house refuses to apologize for that comment and mccain s family is hitting back. but in a white house where anything goes, that awful kind of talk starts right don t you think at the top where the fish rots. and conservative columnist george f. willis says donald trump isn t the worst person in the trump administration, his vice president is. coming up, george will makes his case right here on hardball. and trump might talk about draining the swamp, but his words may not mean much when you look at the actions of those closest to him, michael cohen and scott pruitt are two of the biggest swamp creatures in trump s orbit, and that s saying a lot. and finally, let me finish with a preview of coming events. this is hardball, where the action is. (phone ping) gentlemen, i have just received word!
this get. giuliani using straight talk against another lawyer. two tlaulawyers fighting about law and whether it was broken and he that s how he refers to him. it sounds like a big, chris, a certain amount of derangement in how rudy giuliani has been reacting to politics, not just to this case, but in the last year or two. i remember during the campaign, i went up to him and asked him about people at trump rallies chanting lock her up, he was a former federal prosecutor, he worked in the justice department. i said, what do you make of that? is that the way that people should behave. he put his face inches from mine and turned beet red and he started shouting, he s guilty, he s guilty. i really think, if you talk to people who used to work for him, they re all worried. they re worried a bit like rudy giuliani. he s not acting like the rational, reasonable person that some people thought he used to be. the language thing is important. pat moynihan said, they define deviancy downwar
you d have to call it. natasha? and just like how kelly sadler insulted john mccain, we see this kind of language trickle down from the president. and one of the revealing comments that rmg road raudy gie this week was to maggie haberman, that he misses being on tv. he hadn t been on tv for a while. he missed the attention. and that s a big reason why he says and does these things. rudy? yes. he craves it. he admits that he uses words like that to get some attention. well, he got it. the wrong kind of attention, i would say. because he was america s mayor not too long ago. maybe too long ago. this is the kind of language, in mob movies, you hear this kind of talk. you hear it everywhere on the street, but don t expect to hear it from the president s lawyer. excuse me, we keep forgetting, he s the president s lawyer. one of his lawyers. the other guy is michael cohen. i don t know what to make of this. your thoughts? it is like a mob it is like a mob movie. but you know, ano