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Why hes not standing with the fam? why they let jackson out? why hes not standing with the fam. why they let washington out? why hes not standing with the fam, you have to answer. >> they were not snitches but you have to stand up if you want to walk the right line, if you want 0 to get out of the lockup situation you have to stand up and be an individual versus a group think, like most gang members. >> do you have the heart? do you have the courage? its easy to follow. i say to you all today, f...

We have reports of what are known as checks, the term the orejones created, and the check means you have to prove your heart to stay in the unit. and theyre checking every inmate that comes into the unit. youre not going to force somebody to prove their heart unless youre trying to structurize, who is the weaklings, who are the actual members? theyre weeding out those that dont belong and this is clearly identifying the factor for a structurized group. >> structure, often translates into a more ...

Sometimes it would end up stabbing their own brother thinking it was one of us. see, thats the kind of psychological warfare that i liked to ploy. >> victor says that he sees parallels between the early days of the mexican mafia and those of its younger wilder rival the tango orejones. >> the mexican mafia basically started like the orejones now, lets do this to protect ourselves so nobody else will get extorted so nobodys going to get beat up, but then eventually they start doing the same thing...

Were not get anything out of it? and as time progressed, they realized that, they outnumbered the true members of the mexican mafia. so in 1997, they decided to break away. >> even though the two feuding gangs were cut from the same cloth, today, theyre very different. >> the mexican mafia and the orejones have a different personality. you can spot them by talking to them. >> mexican mafia members tend to be older, run their gang with a military-like hierarchy and strict accordance to rules. >> ...

In 210, san antonio. >> represent 210. >> our gang coverage in san antonio revolved around a rivalry, there was a different story inside clevelands cuyahoga county correction center. most of the problems there swirled around one dominant gang. >> oh, thats raw. >> the heartless felons. but its members referred to it by another name, the family. because they say thats what they really are. >> heartless felon is like a family for real. it started for me in juvenile, people from other cities, they ...

>> uh-huh. >> sorry to bother you. >> thank you. >> they do everything under the table. theres no need to try to intimidate any longer. their name alone provides that command presence. versus a very young group, trying to get their name out, trying to let people know, look, were aggressive, very intimidating, theyre more likely to be very disrespectful, more likely to be anti-authority, more likely to be disruptive in the living units. >> nothing can prepare you for going into the unit. you real...

>> unfortunately, by segregating them, we are creating the ground for this gang to become more of a structurized group. we have reports of what are known as checks, the term the orejones created, and the check means you have to prove your heart to stay in the unit. and theyre checking every inmate that comes into the unit. youre not going to force somebody to prove their heart unless youre trying to structurize, who is the weaklings, who are the actual members? theyre weeding out those that dont...

But its members referred to it by another name, the family. because they say thats what they really are. >> heartless felon is like a family for real. it started for me in juvenile, people from other cities, they here, columbus, cincinnati, they go down there, take our stuff, and pick on us, we formed a group. when they take our stuff, we go, get our group together, we go fight them and get our stuff back. >> pierre chatman was the first heartless felon who agreed to talk to me. >> the system ca...

And make a difference. i know you might say, big sam, i dont think hes talking to me right. i just want you to know, thats just the way it is. nothing personal. this is a jail. you got a life ahead of you. what you do with it is on you. >> at one point in the speech, big sam was warning these inmates that because they were being let out of the situation, they may be viewed as snitches. >> you know just as well as i do, it will come back. why they let bill out? why hes not standing with the fam? ...

>> unfortunately, by segregating them, we are creating the ground for this gang to become more of a structurized group. we have reports of what are known as checks, the term the orejones created, and the check means you have to prove your heart to stay in the unit. and theyre checking every inmate that comes into the unit. youre not going to force somebody to prove their heart unless youre trying to structurize, who is the weaklings, who are the actual members? theyre weeding out those that dont...