one of the architects of obamacare, jonathan gruber. plus, you're the president, but you are turning into a real dictator. >> if your baby is going to die and it doesn't have to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make. >> we will ask about the politics of late-night comedy. our power player of the week, up basketball player boun bonds wir sister and brings her to washington d.c. that's all right now on fox news sunday. hello again from fox news in washington. republicans have finally started making progress on their pledge to overhaul the nation's health care system. president trump held a celebration in the rose garden after they passed repeal and
they are very mature and know what's going on and know the commitments we've made to the american people to repeal and replace a failing program in obamacare. i'm excited about where were at. the president achieved something no one thought he would. i think we were right to give the congress and at a boy in the rose garden. this is just the beginning before let's talk about the commitment you've made. during the campaign, the promise president made to voters about obamacare. here it is. >> i will take care of everybody. i don't care if it cost me votes. everyone will be taking care of much better than their taking care of now. chris: here are some of the features. under obamacare, older people could be charged three times as much as younger people. in the house bill it is five times as much or even more. under obamacare, people with pre-existing conditions couldn't be charged more in the house plan if states opt out,
they would have to pay for. that is just in the house bill. what this tells you is when president trump brought several individuals into his office and said fellas let's work it out and make sure this pre-existing condition is taken care of, he made it happen with should show every american how committed he is to making sure if you have a pre-existing condition he is not going to let you down before you are talking about that narrowly. there are arguments against it. we will talk about that in the next segment. the cbo released an analysis of the last bill. let's put the staff on that. by next year they said 14 million people covered under obamacare will lose their insurance. by 2026, 24 million people will. that's not taking care of everybody as promised. >> we don't buy the cbo score.
everyone instantly won't come off of insurance as the cbo score indicates. we will have more options, the pre-existing conditions -- the high risk pool before the old people will pay five times as much or more. >> that's the old bill. that's also before the senate takes the bill and makes it even better. the point of all of this, go back to the beginning. if we go back to the beginning we have two options, continue down the road we were on with the failing, collapsing system that most people don't think will work, or start the process with a better system, more choices and options, lower prices, keep your doctor. we started the process and got through the house and it's now off to the senate. we'll get this done. we will repeal and replace and
have a better product. before let's talk about another aspect. democrats say the house bill will be a big drag on republicans politically in the 2018 midterms. here is nancy pelosi. >> you have every position of this bill tattooed on your four head. you will glow-in-the-dark on this one. chris: they are facing angry voters at townhall this weekend. the unofficial bible assessing. [inaudible] shifted its assessment by 20 seats now held by republicans in the favor of democrats. you could lose your house majority over this. >> these are the same people who said donald trump wouldn't run and he did and he couldn't win
the primary or the general and he couldn't get healthcare repeal and replace any got it through the house. look, the fact of the matter is, sometimes in life you have to do what's right, not what is politically expedient. we believe it will be a better product and when people see the premiums are lower and it's better service and more options and choices, they will reward the republicans who stood up and said we will not see the obamacare system continue any longer. we will do something better and do our job as legislators to get this done. i think the republican party will be rewarded. chris: let's turn to another subject. a budget was passed to keep the government funded until october. president trump said it was a big win. democrats say they rolled him and the white house. there is no money for construction of thedp8h border . the bill continues funding for planned parenthood in century city's and you did get more
money for defense, you didn't get the big domestic spending cuts you were calling for. didn't they get more out of it than you guys did. >> i don't think the democrats got anything. let's back up. they lost their parity rule which means for every dollar increase in military you have to have a dollar in domestic. i lost it. that's one of the biggest failures that no one is talking about. they lost on military spending. we get to one of the biggest increases in military spending. number two, for the first time in six years our military will get a raise. we have over a billion dollars to do work on on the border including border walls that will go up where fences exist today. we can buy the property we need to continue the wall moving forward. chris: the president talked about a shutdown in october are
they going to be tougher in october. >> i'm not even done yet. they didn't get their csr payment or any money. chris: when you talk about being in the weeds, were in the weeds. >> right but his agenda moves forward in this budget and he would say. as far as what's coming down the pike in september, we will be ready for the fight and make sure his priorities continue. chris: okay. speaking of the budget and his priorities, the president talks about fighting the opioid drug epidemic. in a new budget proposal, he is gut the white house office of the drugs are. funds for the drug is ours office would be cut 95% eliminating its two major programs. and the acting leader said these cuts are heartbreaking.
why, when you say there's an epidemic would you cut the office 95%? >> first of all, that the leaked document and nothing is final in this debate and discussion in regard to this issue. chris: the leader is taking it pretty seriously. >> good for him. he should take it seriously. you've got it all over the place. it's in nhs and secondly, i don't think any president showed more commitment in regard to tackling opioid in the first 100 days. chris: i understand but that's why people are so surprised about the cuts. >> it's a leaked document, nothings finalize, there's work being done at hhs and d.o.j. judge him by his actions, not leaked documents and hypotheticals, and the actual
actions of the president is a total commitment to this epidemic across the country. chris: finally, a new york times had a front-page story yesterday that talks about you and how much you have riding on passing obamacare repeal and replace. i want to put up, i'm sure you will love these quotes. you viewed it as a make or break moment. another big loss on healthcare would have been an unrecoverable low to a weekend mr. previous. other than that is this true? >> know, but remember the last time i was on your show, it was something along the lines that the person that people are pointing to most for the failure of obamacare was reince priebus. i kind of joked at the time, so when it passes in my going to be
the one person who gets all the credit? of course not. the president knows that. one person in the west wing among thousands of people doesn't make a difference. this would have never gotten out of the house, he did it and brought people together and was a leadership we haven't had for eight years previously before the new york times accused you of being a nice guy which only in washington would be a character flaw. how deeply. >> i'm a nice guy but i didn't get here by accident. >> thank you. always good to be here with you. up next to user's guide for repeal and replace. what would it really mean for you and yourt' family? d 26 vita.
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medicaid. what's the problem there. >> for older americans their health insurance is very expensive. under obamacare that's limited how much they can be charged and by having tax credits that limit the percent of income they have to pay for health insurance as well as expanding medicaid to lower income adults. that goes away under the house alternative. the medicaid expansion goes away. for the poor and elderly they don't have access to health insurance. tax credits become flat and not income based so the elderly have to pay much more for health insurance. you have a system that's not as protective. chris: carl, let's talk about both aspects. democrats are saying there isn't as much protection just shy of medicare and their calling that the age tax and the compromise that the house passed does this, it provides states that set up high risk pools with another
$8 billion extra over five years to help people with pre-existing conditions on top of $130 billion to help states with other costs, but democrats say that is still not enough. >> let's take the 3 - 1 band that causes young people under the affordable care act to subsidize people, older people. it has been expanded 5 - 1. why is that done? older people have healthcare costs that are roughly 4.8 times those of younger people. what we have is a system that if you want to call the tax we are taxing virtually everyone under the age of 50 by causing them to pay more for their premiums to subsidize the coverage of people over the age of 54 or 55 to reduce their premiums despite the fact that the older group has higher incomes, higher wealth and less child-rearing
expenses than the people below. before we had the affordable care act, 42 states had set the bandwidth that 5 - 1. three of them had it at a lower level and the rest of them had no standards. the reason was. chris: i got it. now talk about pre-existing conditions because that is the hot button. >> look, the bottom line, there is a lot of trash being tossed about. there is no change in pre-existing conditions for people in the affordable care act and in states that don't have her waiver. if the state asks for a waiver, it can say if you haven't had continuous coverage or you let it lapse for more than 63 days and you have a pre-existing condition, you get a policy but you could be charged up to 30% more than other people your age for one year as it an incentive for you to stay in continuous coverage for there is $8 billion
to pay for people who have extensive illnesses. chris: this is a debate so let me bring professor gruber in. why isn't that enough. >> well, the most important accomplishment of the affordable care act was ending the ability of insurers to say you can't get insurance or your charged more because you have bad genes. americans don't like it. why would you want to introduce this. it opens the law for states to say just because of the genes you are born with you will pay more for health insurance. the law includes funds from high-risk pool. i call it a high-risk puddle. by all the estimates, these are trivial funds compared to what would be needed to actually pay for it. chris: let's move on. >> no-no, first of all, it does not change pre-existing conditions for the vast majority
of people. if your state waves out, all they can do is charge you 30% more for one year. chris: gentlemen, i've done this in a presidential debate so i will do it with you guys but i want to move on to another subject and that is medicaid because more than half of the 20 million people who gained coverage under obamacare gained through the expansion of medicaid which allows more over the next ten years by changing it to a fixed block
grant two states. carl, why is that good. >> it focuses medicaid on who it should be focused on, the vulnerable, the disabled and the young. it says two states, you can put in place work requirements of people who are able to get a job in coverage on their own can do so by removing the incentive to stay on the role. yes it cuts the medicaid over the long haul but it increases the money spent on those with ailments and children and those who have children and are single parents. we should focus this program more on the vulnerable and not people based on their income as a disincentive to work. chris: let me brin professor gr. please respond to that and entitlement reform. we been talking about that for years and years. is this entitlement reform. >> he is absolutely wrong. medicaid does this, two thirds is spent on the elderly and disabled. you can't cut that program by 25% without massively hurting the elderly and disabled in this nation. it's mathematically impossible.
you are talking about a program that takes care of our most vulnerable citizens and cutting it by 25%. why? what does this do? this does nothing to fix our healthcare system. all it does is massively cut funds and have a large tax break. if we want to talk entitlement reform that a legitimate discussion but let's have it in the context of reforming entitlement which doesn't harm our citizens, not cutting up program for the vulnerable by 25%. chris: okay, i want to get into one last subject. the goal is to replace obamacare with something different and i think everyone agrees obamacare has serious problems. here is president trump on obamacare after this passage of the house bill. >> i predicted it a long time ago. i said it's failing. now it's obvious. it's dead.
we don't pay lots of ransom money to the insurance companies it would die immediately. chris: here are some steps. premiums under obamacare went up 24% across the country. the average number of insurers in each marketplace has dropped from 5.9 and 2015 to 3.9 now. in iowa, there is only one insurance company left in all but five counties in iowa and they just announced they are thinking of dropping out so there would be only one insurance company. >> whose fault is the spread before trump was elected there were no counties that didn't have an assure. since he has been elected.
chris: wait, you're going to blame the problems of obamacare on trump. >> we have a situation under obamacare where there was a one time premium freeze last year that made up for the fact that they massively underpriced in the first two years. the problem with fixed is that profits were trending positively and they were saying positive things about the bill succeeding and then you have a president who comes in, undercuts open enrollment, doesn't on of the application and premiums are going up and insurers are exiting. chris: we are running out of time and i'm interrupting both of you equally. carl, your thoughts. >> he blamed it all on the insurers because the government told them to consider that they would get a lot more healthy, younger people than they actually got on any year this programs benefi in effect. trump stopped the ads. the problems of obamacare can be solved with four days worth of
tv ads. really? they also said not to enforce the individual mandate and that caused a disruption in the force. obama delayed the mandate for two years and the employer mandate for a year end finally he talked about cost-sharing payments and that cause distress among the insurance companies. they are getting the cost-sharing payments despite the fact that a judge declared them illegal last year. trump said he would pay them until the issue was resolved. last october doctor gruber said the program was working exactly as designed. it was designed with this to pdd of the american people tilt into the calculations but it is a broken system -. chris: okay i have to give doctor gruber the last 32nd. >> you have a system that was not working perfectly but was very fixable. the question -- it is working as
designed. there's no reason for it to be fixed. >> no, the law could be improved, but instead of improving it, why do you take steps to undercut it and cause 24 million people to lose health insurance. >> that's not true. >> the cbo said people who do not have insurance, that is to say they would not buy insurance. >> now, 24 muller million americans. [inaudible] chris: thank you. we will continue this debate. affect you, not how well will affect the politicians as it makes its way through the sena senate. plus what would you like to ask about the upcoming battle in the senate.
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on the senate to pass republican healthcare. it's time for our sunday group. britt is back from florida. welcome. one williams, jane harman and newt gingrich. we ask you for questions and it's clear democrats are making headway on the argument that the house bill will hit older americans. susan lloyd farrell said on facebook, these are the days that the elderly need medicare coverage. what will happen to us under the plan. speaker gingrich, said folks over 65 are protected under medicaid, but if you're not that old will you pay more under this new plan. >> you may pay more but the fact is that obamacare is collapsing. virginia announced a 58%
increase. there are no plans left in kentucky, in 94 of the 99 counties in iowa there are no plans left. this is a program to try to get it to survive and offer insurance for everybody. chris: first, your reaction and what is your biggest concern about the house bill. >> i was in the house when obamacare past. i voted for it. it passed in a totally partyline vote as this version did. we are just trading bad for bad. when we think about american healthcare, not republican or obamacare. my reaction is reince priebus, who did a very good job on your show and paul ryan is over the goal line but it's gonna be a do over and will look anything like the house bill if it even passes. chris: do you agree with the speaker that obamacare is collapsing. >> i agree there are issues.
part of that is the bill that passed congress didn't resemble what we did in committee on a bipartisan basis and we just repeated the same movie by having a bill that didn't go through committee and isn't scored by cbo and came out just as a leadership press release. chris: let's pivot to the politics of all this. there was a good deal of pushback to the optics. look at this picture of the victory celebration in the rose garden. if that wasn't enough, mitch mcconnell announced his working group and if you notice something all of those people have in common it's 13 white m men. what you think of the pushback and concern about that and
argument that this will be as big a political burden for republicans in 2018 as it was for democrats lost more than 60 seats in the house in 2010. >> first of all this whole health insurance issue is not racial. the second thing is all the claims about the political damage that will be incurred by the republicans are premature. we are about a quarter of the way. the senate will not have to pass a bill. then the differences will have to be composed and then the final product will have to go back to the house and the senate. you can make an argument that we are one fifth of the way. what we ultimately see will be quite different. chris: i understand that. >> but you can't act as if it's already past and making estimates of the number of people who will be hurt by it particularly when the grasp of what's in the bill is te>wñ?ñnut best. this is way too soon. >> remember, next year, 2018, key midterm elections, nobody will act once you get past the end of this year on such a controversial bill.
just think about the advertisements. they will say a republican voted to take 24 million people off health insurance and to increase your, seniors more likely to turn out in midterms, to increase your premiums and cost for health care including prescription drugs. these are devastating ads. it's a little early in the process, but nonetheless, they voted for the bill. it's right in front of us for all of us to see. chris: i want to switch to another political subject and that is we have a french election. they are still voting in france but you've got the far right wing candidate, maureen le pen against the younger candidate. what is at stake for the united states. >> it's a very big election. my guess is that macron will
survive but le pen will be bigger than ever before and she may well win the next election. i think there is a pattern building. chris: let's assume macron wins or le pen wins. what does that mean. >> if le pen wins you have the dick decay and unemployment and explanations of violence as usual but the euro survives. if le pen wins you will have friends cutting loose from germany and brussels. i don't think she will win but i think she will get over 40% of the vote. her father got 12% the first time he was on the ballot. it keeps growing and there's a single fact, if you are a french young person, you are three times as likely to be unemployed as if you are a german young person. right at that border, germans
are figuring out how to make the economy work in french socialism is collapsing. that won't change in the long run with macron. >> i agree with new too. fair and balanced, i'm saying it here. but a couple more points. unemployment in france is 10%. unemployment in french youth is 23%. staggering. whatever happens it will further isolate angela merke merkel whoa stable moderate voice in europe. in addition, a huge data dump. chris: macron's files were hacked on friday. >> and it was released just a half hour before the election. we don't know who did this. it could be the russians and they are probably playing in germany and this is really scary
for the u.s., to have this kind of meltdown in european politics. it does affect us before we have to take a break. when we come back hillary clinton and james comey, round three. late-night talk shows are experiencing a trumpet bump. are the host crossing the line with their commentary? thanks for loading, sweetie. ...oh, burnt-on gravy? ...gotta rinse that. nope. no way. nada. really? dish issues? throw it all in. new cascade platinum powers through... even burnt-on gravy. nice. cascade.
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private e-mail server played in the 2016 presidential race. we are back with the panel. britt, how much responsibility do you think james comey bears for clinton's defeat, especially his announcement that he was reopening the investigation 11 days before the election. >> i think it had a limited effect. i don't take it was a main factor. look at it this way. the case he laid out that he said was not the basis for prosecution could very well have been, as numerous legal authorities have argued about that. it's possible he could've recommended and indictment which would've been devastated. he didn't do that. a lot of people think he let her off the hook so you could argue it that way as well. obviously the whole investigation did not help, but whose fault was that. it was the person who had the unauthorized system. that was the original matter and
that is what in the end, this was all about. chris: in his congressional testimony comay said he faced to terrible alternatives. >> speaking can still. speak would be really bad. there is an election in 11 days. concealing in my view would be catastrophic. >> the argument he makes is if they had not revealed this, if she had been elected president and then it comes out that there is an investigation going on let alone that she had broken the law that would have badly damage the fbi. >> he had a great chapter in john asked ashford's hospital room when he blocked assigning he thought will's illegal print i thought he was wrong three times last year. the right thing to do was to keep his mouth shut. concealed, no way. what we are talking about was a stash of e-mails on anthony weiner's hard drive which no one had looked at.
to imply, which the announcement did imply that there was something bad there and it turned out there wasn't, i think that was unprofessional. chris: okay we have both sides of the argument. let's turn to the politics of late-night comedy. here was steven colbert with his astonishingly crude attack on donald trump. >> you are the president, but you are turning into a real prick. the only thing your mouth is good for is being vladimir putin. [inaudible] chris: wow. here is jimmy kimmel talking about the terrible news about his newborn son and in the context of the debate this week over obamacare repeal and replace. >> billy was born with a heart disease, something called
tetralogy at below with pulmonary atresia. no parent should have to decide if they can afford to save their child's life. it just shouldn't happen. not here. chris: we should point out that billy, the doctors were able to fix his heart and he will be a healthy little boy. your thoughts about both of those. >> the second -- if you show up with the hospital with a brand-new baby and they have a heart problem, the doctors will do whatever they can to save the baby. they don't they will try to save the babies life after you write a check. they will try to save the baby. that's true across the country. the problem you have with humor in america is that hollywood is so enraged that donald trump that they can be funny. all they've got is pure anger. that's what is coming out the
stuff and they think it's funny because the comedian so they exhibit their anger as a pathology on lakeland night television and you should laugh because the comedians. the eight funny because are too angry to be funny. >> in the case of jimmy, i don't think there's any question that if you're poor in this country your children are at greater risk. & but what were talking about his long term care and well-being of that child. you don't want to be poor in dealing with this healthcare system. trump said australia, scotland, canada has better health systems. i thing it's pretty clear that in this argument the american people clearly believe a child like jimmy kimmel should be able to be guaranteed a healthy life without the parents worrying about insufficient funds before
before we get to the other one, your reaction. >> there are 8000 community health centers. if you're genuinely poor you're on medicaid everywhere in the country. i think it's part of the left's mythology. we do an enormous amount in this country to try to save people. by the way most of people didn't buy obamacare insurance are young people who prefer to pay a tax to buy the insurance so obamacare was not able to coerce them enough to make them by the insurance for that's the largest single block of people who didn't buy the insurance. >> that's true they were the largest block but don't forget obamacare was performing better than had been predicted even with that but you have republicans who intentionally sabotage, remove subsidies and create the system of collapse and make it implode. then you say the system is not working. >> i just want to say i think republicans should have been
working to create a system that works for the american people, rather than engaging the system of trying to destroy obamacare and obstruct improvement. now democrats should rise above it and do something to improve the current system. this really is the original sin to what republicans say, were to stop this the matter what. now everybody says you should have a right as jimmy kimmel's kid should survive. let's go back to colbert for a second. he spoke in crude terms but the suggestion that the fcc should get involved is ridiculous. when should government be a offensive of comedy. cbs should fire them if they feel there's a problem. big government should not be involved. >> i think what colbert said was disgusting. if any other comedian says something like that with regard to barack obama, you can bet that the man or woman would be on unemployment. having said that, i don't think he should be fired, i don't
think the fcc should get involved and i suspect it won't, what i think should happen is people should be repelled by it and tuning out. that will take care the matter. >> the important subject on the show is healthcare. both parties are blaming the other party and gaining the 2018 and 2020 election. what about american healthcare. what only think about how to build up a system that takes care of everybody. chris: it's a nice thought but were so far away from that in this country. obamacare past without a single republican vote and this past without a single democratic vote. >> there's a chance in the senate. >> if you and i can get along -- >> i would love to see any democrat who will stand up tomorrow and say i'm willing to work with mitch mcconnell to produce a better bill. chris: think of one thing. it's being sayin said republicae in dire straits.
think what would have happened if they failed again. what we now have is a situation in the media where there damned if they do and damned if they don't. >> it was seven years, 60 votes. >> inky panel. i'll see you next sunday. up next our power player of the week. a new basketball star in washington on and off the adjus. court. ess so all they feel is love pampers swaddlers
of the wnba. the league's most viable player in 2015. olympic gold medalist in rio. her decision this winter to demand to trade from the chicago to the washington mystics even more dramatic. were you willing to sit out a season in order to force a move. >> i was. chris: league rules make it hard for players to move from one team to another. >> if you truly want to move you have to put your foot down. i truly felt d.c. was the right place for me and i was willing to do whatever it took to get here. chris: that brings us to her older sister lizzie who was born blind and death and with super evil policy. >> she's always been my angel, my guiding light, my role model. she has taught me more than any other person in my life and she's never spoken word.
>> host: the sisters can't skype or text which makes long separations intolerable for alina. >> when i come into a room she grabs my head and pulled me in and just gets my sense and she knows who it is. hopefully that means she has a bright smile, but someday she doesn't. chris: now she is just a short train ride away in delaware. that's only part of her story off the court. in 2008 she contracted lyme disease and it's been a problem on and off over the years. chris: when you have a relapse, how does it feel. what's it like. >> it's always felt like flulike sensymptoms. fatigue, muscle aches, all great things for a professional athlete before she took me to the practice court to give me some pointers on basketball
shooting. i always go to a 90-degree angle and you just lift and flick your riswrist. chris: then she took me to the three-point line which looks a whole lot farther from the basket when you're on the court with a star player. that's when i decided to end the lesson. beyond basketball and family, her other project is her charitable foundation. she is raising money and awareness for lyme disease and families dealing with children who have special needs. it's all part of a remarkable young woman's game plan. >> i have done something with this limelight and i haven't assaulted all in for myself. i've always tried to be a voice for my sister and i feel like i'm doing that to the best of my ability and will continue to do better and better. chris: this isn't the first time alayna has upended her life to be closer to her sister lizzie.
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president has a concern.but he absolutely respects the independence of the fed.the market expects interest rates to keep going up, the only question is how far and for how long we think the fed will be very careful in managing the economy. >>chris: in fact, isn't it responsible as the economy heats up. when we've had these artificially low interest rates when the economy was chugging along at 1-2 percent. isn't it responsible for the fed to increase interest rates? >> i think it is in the market expects it. it's been targeting two percent inflation and with two percent inflation, we have to have slightly higher interest rates to manage through that. >>chris: i want to ask you about another potential drag on the economy and that is the drop in some tech stocks. facebook dropped 19 percent on thursday. twitter fell 20 percent friday. intel and apple fell also.
are you concerned about investors souring on tech stocks, especially those in stocks involving social media. which i think you would agree, have been big drivers of growth in the economy and big drivers of fries in the markets.>> i've always believed that diversified portfolios of u.s. stocks are great investments and will continue to be. as you can see, the market is not efficient. the fact you can have a one-day correction of these magnitudes goes to show you in the short term, the market is not necessarily efficient. i am not concerned about this at all. investors should have diversified portfolios. the tech stocks have had an incredible run. you look at the nasdaq and the snp and the dow jones. the market is always doing very
well. >>chris: let's turn to trade. president trump announced what he called a quote, breakthrough agreement on trade with the european union this week but sir, isn't he exaggerating a bit? there were no tariffs removed in his discussions with the european commission. there were few specific commitments. there was one on soybeans and there was no timetable. in fact mr. secretary, all that the president and the president of the european commission agreed on is to start talking. >> that's actually not the case but let me just step back for a second. these talks started with the president, the g-7, singlets have no tariffs, no barriers and no subsidies. those talks continued with the g-7 but i was at the g 20, i met with my counterparts. and then when we had the president of the eu, we
specifically went through a detailed discussion. we had several hours of negotiating that in fourth on an outline of an agreement and now we have the hard work. the first step will be to resolve the steel and aluminum tariffs. when we do that, the retaliatory tariffs will come off. this was an agreement to reduce tariffs significantly across the board and we have about $1 trillion of trade. this is a very big opportunity to do things. >>chris: mr. secretary, let me give you one example of where the president and the administration makes it sound like there's a deal and the eu makes it sound like there isn't. here's what the president said to farmers in iowa this week. >> we just opened up europe for you farmers. you're not going to be too angry with trump, i can tell you. >>chris: as soon as he said that, the spokesperson for the european commission gave this response. quote, agriculture is out of the scope of these discussions. we are not negotiating about
agricultural products. mr. secretary, you are at odds, the president is at odds with the european union before the talks even start. >> chris, i was in the room and we had specific conversations about agriculture. and the need to break down the barriers on our culture and have more opportunities for our farmers. we specifically talked about soybeans but we specifically agreed we would look at these other markets. it was very clear our objective as part of this whole agreement is the europeans have to open up more opportunities for our farmers and agriculture.i can't comment on their comments. this will be an important part of any agreement we reached. >>chris: let me just ask you directly because this was on the record. the spokesperson for the european commission said, let me quote again, we are not negotiating about agricultural products. are you right or is she right? >> again, let me be clear.
we had specific conversation about soybeans. that was step one. we discussed other areas and again, this is all part of a negotiation. we will have an agreement and it will be an encompassing agreement. we want to drop tariffs and barriers across the board, that's what we're focused on doing. >>chris: forgive my skepticism and the skepticism of other people but i don't have to tell you, there's a big difference between trade talks in a trade deal. here you were in may here on "fox news sunday" talking about trade with china. >> we are putting the trade war on hold. right now, we have agreed to put the tariffs on hold while we try to execute the framework. >>chris: but within weeks of your making that declaration on this show, president trump announced $50 billion in new tariffs or tariffs on $50 billion worth of chinese goods.
so, what looked like a truth one minute can fall apart the next. >> you are right. these are complicated negotiations and these have to be turned into a real agreement that's literally hundreds and hundreds of pages. we're going part by part with euro. i was down in mexico last week. we had a terrific meeting with the new administration. the nafta talks are back on track. that's our number one priority to get nafta done. we will negotiate these by peace with the eu and we continue to have conversations with china and we will see what we get. but you are right, these things have to be negotiated because the president is very clear. he doesn't just want to talk. we want our counterparts to follow through and deliver on breaking down barriers and
creating better opportunities so we can reduce our giant trade deficit. >>chris: in response to farmers concern about getting hit by tariffs, the administration announced this week a $12 billion package in emergency aid. i looked back through the record and have spoken out several times against corporate welfare. when did handouts to farmers become strong, good, solid, conservative policy? >> i don't think these are handouts. it would be one thing if we were just subsidizing markets. that's not what we are doing here. this is a short form program to deal with retaliatory tariffs where you have people who put tariffs. which by the way, are against wto rules and are targeting our farmers. we are sticking up for our farmers so that they don't get hurt in these trade discussions. these are not long-term subsidies for the industry. >>chris: what do you say to some republican senators who
blocked this idea and said they need trade, not aid? >> we agree with that. the focus is trade, not aid and that's why were focused on negotiating these agreements. but the president is not willing to live with the status quo where other countries have taken advantage of the rules and have had to retreat here in our companies and workers can't compete fairly. it's just not fair. china has complete open access to our markets and we have virtually limited access to their markets and ventures. we are focused on, free and fair trade. let's take down the barriers. >>chris: secretary steve mnuchin, always good to talk with you. up next, we will bring in our sunday group to discuss what the good economic news will mean for republican-controlled congress come november. plus, rudy giuliani thinks
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turner. how big a deal is this gdp growth and is enough for republicans to hang their hats on as they try to hold on to control of the house in november? >> normally you would think it would be and it is a big number. the problem is is that where the republicans are suffering most are among essentially why college-educated women in suburban districts. they seem to be immune to the boom in the economy and the gender gap is unprecedented for congressional candidates. so the idea of the economy he alone is what these women will vote for when they are the ones providing the margin of difference, i think it's unlikely and probably very worrisome.>>chris: there's been a lot of talk about a blue wave this november. a big democratic ticket. maybe control of the house and even the senate. i think you'd agree on where the absence of where the economy is always the top
issue.when you have historically low unemployment numbers, isn't that a pretty strong record for republicans to run on? >> first of all, we should all be celebrating 4.1 economic growth. it would have been the fifth strongest number of the obama administration. the obama administers, this is a continuation of the recovery that began in 2009 and 2010. that strong economy wasn't enough to help democrats last time. it wasn't enough to say - - i think it cannot be overstated that for a lot of these voters, particularly suburban voters were gas prices are going up. where there's more uncertainty around healthcare. after that, some of these working-class voters getting hit by the results of the tariffs on steel and aluminum. were getting hit by agricultural - - there's enough
economic uncertainty that even with this strong number, the republicans are facing a strong head wind. >>chris: let's turn to the so-called trade truce between the administration and the president and the head of the commission talked about this. here they are. >> this was a very big day for free and fair trade. very big day indeed. >> i have the intention to make a deal today. and we made a deal today. >>chris: you heard my conversation just before in the last segment with secretary of treasury steve mnuchin. what are your resources telling you about real dialing down of tariffs? >> there is no dialing down. they all remain in place. the retaliatory tariffs and if
what secretary manojsteve mnuch told you is true, it includes agricultural or they will have problems. because every country has its pets political issues they don't want to touch. for germany, it's cars. that's why cars weren't in that agreement. agriculture, big issue in europe. they've got their protected industries. >>chris: particularly in france. they said we don't want to lower agricultural tariffs. >> if the demand is we want zero tariffs on anything which was the - - the predecessor to the obama administration negotiating with europe for a free trade deal.
that was the objective. zero tariffs on all industries. this is basically a narrower version. it's going to be really hard like any massive trade negotiation. i don't have any indication they will withdraw the steel and aluminum tariffs but i do know the republicans are putting immense pressure on the administration quietly because they are worried. your whole first conversation about the economy, republicans see the trade agenda as the biggest risk for the midterms. >>chris: let's take a bigger look at the trade policy. there is no deal with the european union. the talks haven't even started. there's no deal on nafta with mexico and canada although there's a report of some progress. and there's certainly no deal, relations are tense and have gotten worse with china. how do you see the president trade policy and has specifically, his policy on tariffs. how do you see that playing out? >> as everyone has pointed out,
not a lot of specifics in the deal with younger. that doesn't mean it wasn't a valuable exercise. doing this joint press conference, sometimes conflict resolution 101 tells you when you have these contentious negotiations when two sides are really far apart and not agreeing on anything. just battled reaching the tipping point. the best thing to do is to just agree to agree later on and to a certain extent, that's what they achieved coming out of this. i don't think it was a worthless thing. >> there's a problem with that. this entire crisis, donald trump created it. he's like a fireman that goes to set the fires so he can be a hero. he creates this trade crisis and then he backs off from it and get back to the status quo that we had with a crisis in the first place. i don't know that there's been anything legitimately productive that's come out of
this whole chapter. >> to be fair, they did agree to hit paul's and not institute an escalation. i'm not saying this solves all the problems but it is something worthwhile. >>chris: the president has been on a twitter role and he just tweeted, he says, he would be willing to quote, shut down the government if he doesn't get everything he wants on immigration. he wants a wall, and end to the visa lottery. an end to the chain migration. is he really willing to see a shutdown which would be september 30, one month before the midterm elections. >> that too kind of shocks me. and not much shocks me from this president. the conversations i've had with his senior advisers as recently as a few weeks ago on this very subject is favor of the impression that they convinced
the president it was not in his political interest to shut down the federal government six weeks before an election. i don't know if this is just bluster, that he feels dissatisfied with the negotiations he's had with members of the senate that they haven't even had more of what he wants. we all know how angry he was with the last bill that didn't given his wall funding. >>chris: we will take a break and the later in the program. when we come back, michael, one once boasted he would take a bullet for his boss. now president trump's former attorney and picture is looking like his biggest enemy. the president's lead lawyer, rudy giuliani, joins us next . saving you time for what you love most. >> kids: whoa! >> kids vo: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪
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president's denial that he know anything about that 2016 trump tower meeting. joining me now, rudy giuliani be a welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> thank you chris, good to be with you. >>chris: i want to start with michael cohen. mr. trumps them her lawyer and fixer. here's what you said about cohen a couple months ago and the possibility he might talk to robert mueller. >> i expect he will cooperate. i don't think they will be happy because he doesn't have any terminating evidence about the president or himself. the man is an honest, honorable lawyer. >>chris: but now you say michael cohen is cooled, a pathological liar who's been fighting for years. so what happened? >> here's what happened. i found out that he was recording his clients which is a disposable offense. if i do that, i would never
have said he's a reputable lawyer.i would have said he's a scoundrel. i found out he not only tape lawyers but he had a conversation with one of your colleagues, chris cuomo in which he made a big show of putting hisphone in a draw . he then proceeded to record two hours of that conversation. makes him a total liar. i didn't know that. now i've listened unfortunately too many hours of tapes and the man is a pathological, manipulative, liar. i didn't know that. i knew nothing bad about michael cohen until all this started to happen in the last couple weeks. >>chris: how angry is president trump about being betrayed by a man he worked so closely with and what does it mean this talk now that their joint defense agreement is over, what is the
practical effect of that? >> the president feels disappointed. i think the anger is over. we've assured him this is a very good development equals we do have all of these tapes and they are completely demonstrate the president did nothing wrong. it would be hard to contradict that now. and he's done so many despicable things, his credibility is not an issue. the joint defense agreement is in effect over because he's making it clear that he will try to hurt the president and he obviously isn't going to give us information. >>chris: michael cohen's latest so-called revelation is that he reportedly is prepared to tell the special counsel robert mueller that he was witness to a conversation in which president trump knew in advance about the trump tower meeting.
that don junior, jared kushner and paul manafort are going to meet with the russian lawyer. that contradicts what president trump told the new york times last december. >> did you know about the meeting? >> i didn't know anything about the meeting. it must have been very unimportant because i never heard about it. >>chris: the president repeated this week he did not know in advance of the trump tower meeting. let's explore this for a moment. if he did know and did lie to the new york times last summer, when he said he didn't know. is there anything wrong with that? >> i guess there's something wrong with you on an ethical moral basis. if you got prosecuted for lying to the newspapers in the press, michael cohen should go to jail for 1000 years. his tapes are filled with lies. but no, he didn't lie to them. this is a leak so he may change it. michael cohen have to pick a day to determine the story.
michael cohen said he was present at different meetings. with don junior, jared and a group of other people in which they talked about the meeting two days later. then he said he was present the day of the meeting in the presidential office in which a few people came in and told the president. every other participant say, it is not true. there was no such meeting in advance.there was no such interruption. if he taped everything else, why didn't he tape this?it's not on tape and he's capable i think of doctoring tapes. it's just flat-out untrue. surprised he's lying? i would have been surprised back then but now that i know all of this, seems to me his default position is to live. he's a bad liar because he lives in contradiction to tapes and in contradiction to what i just said is supported by 2-5
witnesses. >>chris: is it fair to say, that you are at war with michael cohen? >> i don't know. i don't think we are at war with him. i think the test is the investigators, the justice department and the american public. he doesn't get to decide this case. i should say, i feel sorry for him but no one would believe me.he's destroyed himself as a witness. i've prosecuted 5000 cases. i'vei would never prosecute a case on this guy's behalf. he's contradicted himself so many times. you begin your cross-examination with which set of lies will you tell today. >>chris: there was another big development this week and there was the tape that michael cohen secretly recorded a conversation in 2016 that he had with donald trump before the election in which there was
a discussion of paying money to buy the rights to the story of karen mcdougall claims she had a relationship with donald trump. here's a portion of that tape. >> i've spoken to alan about how to set the whole thing up. - - yes. all the stuff because the [indiscernible]. correct. >>chris: you say he violated attorney-client privilege by secretly recording it and making it public but michael cohen's lawyer said, you've been talking about the tape and since you talked about thetape, you have waived any attorney-client privilege. >> . [laughter] you've got to get the cart before the horse. the reality is they leaked the tape and then we quite clearly
responded which we are allowed to do. the new york times reporters have confirmed that which is unusual for them to do that. maggie haberman and mike schmidt. the court allows us to respond without waiving any privilege. if we have to defend him, that's what we have to do. it's been very helpful because now we've been able to put out the whole transcript which contradicts several things that lenny davis says but he's almost as bad as cohen. he said he didn't intend to deceive when he did these recordings. what is it to take a phone, put it in a tour and say you're recording them. these are lies that can be contradicted by tape recordings. >>chris: i want to ask you something that may seem off-topic but it will become of
relevance. about brett kavanaugh, he said the case that ordered nixon to turn over the tate, maybe nixon versus u.s. case was wrongly decided. in a 2009 article, he wrote this, like civil suits, criminal investigations take the president to focus away from his or her responsibilities to the people. a president concerned about an ongoing criminal investigation is almost inevitably going to do a worse job as president. question, is judge cavanaugh right on the law? >> i've looked at the law and i really just think those are opinions. the constitution is clear that the president cannot be subpoenaed or if he is, he is a right to challenge it on the grounds that they haven't
exhausted all other possibilities and other ways to get the information. there's the - - case closest one you can find was a cabinet officer and they said he can only be subpoenaed, taken away from his duties if there was no other way to get the information. so the president has at least that privilege. if he has a complete privilege and can be investigated at all, i would have to do more research. although law review articles have said, it does exist as the law in most countries. the head of state has immunity until he's out of office. so, that requires more analysis. >>chris: given the fact that that is judge cavanaugh's opinion and given the fact that a legal dispute between president trump and the special counsel might end up before the supreme court, would it be useful to have judge cavanaugh be justice cavanaugh? >> i don't know brett very
well. i know he was a person of high integrity. i know these off-the-cuff opinions like this, when somebody sits down and set the law. he may very well go the other direction. i wouldn't count on his vote on this. this is a question of first impression. and the tramp situation is very different than nixon. i don't think we get an edge one way or the other. i think the supreme court is as straight as you will get in our country.it will be a case they will have to decide in the first instance. it doesn't happen if they don't subpoena him no president has submitted to a subpoena.even clinton who was subpoenaed,they withdraw it before he testified. >>chris: thank you. please come back. up next, michael cohen
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something he would project to people i talk to. he might have that conversation with melania or someone like that. his anger level is probably 12 out of 10. if you take rudy giuliani as a vessel, going out and calling michael cohen a pathological liar. that's pretty good proxy. as far as regard is how much exposure he has, the one thing i will say if people misconceived michael cohen's role in trump world. he was this as the books kind of lawyer as you can see from the tape recording. but it's not like he had full visibility over everything. i always see it stated as fact that he knows where everybody is buried. actually, he doesn't. he knows where 20 bodies are buried probably. however many more. it's really - - the lawyer that's been with trump for decades and started working for
trump's father who's just been subpoenaed. he's the guy really has visibility. on the hierarchy of consent, he should be much higher. >>chris: we asked you for questions for the panel pickup is on facebook writes, if michael cohen is telling the truth, how bad can this be for president trump? >> it depend what the this is and what he's saying. whether or not as you said, whether or not you lie to the new york times but that's not a crime. but, when michael cohen says president trump knew about the meeting in trump tower. what that does and also when we have this stuff about the payments, this wipes away a vast swap of the defense at the white house and its biggest supporters have been making for
a long time. they can't keep saying things are fake news when the media is not even part of it. when it's a taped interview or a taped phone conversation and it shrinks the circle of plausible deniability over a vast array of things. at the end of the day, it still depends what mother actually finds but i don't know that michael cohen is the silver bullet that a lot of anti-trump people want him to be. >>chris: let's turn to the continued fallout to the trump/putin summit. i think it's fair to say - - got hammered about not confronting putin for meddling in the 2016 election. >> and his conversation with putin, i hope thepresident laid out the consequences of interfering in the 20 2010 election. but i know you can't tell me. >> i can tell you because the president has disclosed that. >>chris: and it went downhill from there.
while the trump team is still trying to clean up from what happened in helsinki, russian foreign minister was asked about it this week but i don't know how you say it in russian but he described the summit as quote, better than super. [laughter] don't think that's particularly helpful for president trump when the russians seem so happy about how it went. >> it's not a good sign. particularly on the topic of election meddling, that is still the administration's weakest spot . whenever you've got the secretary of state and the president disagreeing on a policy issue, it creates a major problem. referring specifically to president trump saying he wasn't sure if he was going to take the intelligence community's assessment at face value that the russians interfered in the election. mike pompeo said a few minutes after that exchange that the president did take the
assessment at face value. that's a major sticking point. and the bigger issue of the helsinki summit, the president is almost having a barack obama moment. remember in 2011-2012, nobody wanted president obama to be talking to the - - in iran. and he wanted a deal and said i'm going to do this anyway. i think that's what president trump is doing now admits all of this blowback. think i want to deal with putin. >>chris: there was a curious development and the whole putin, trump relationship because the white house that had invited him to come to a summit in november which seems surprisingly quick, john bolton announced that no, they will put it over until the next year until as he put it, the witchhunt by which he meant the
robert mueller probe is over. but then putin announced on friday or saturday in south africa that they have invited president trump to come to moscow and have a summit at the kremlin. i don't know if that would be before or after a washington summit but that makes it as clear as mud. >> the russians from response was, don't know. may not be the best timing. the president reasons the invitation and in the russians it, you can always come to us. it's like putin is sitting there like a cat playing with a toy. he's having the time of his life with this president of the united states. when the president is out there singing he doesn't necessarily accept the intelligence community's assessment. forced then to backpedal and say no, i do. but then too within days that
it's a hoax. putin is getting everything he wants out of this relationship and that's not a good thing for the united states. >>chris: does the president still think after all of the blowback from helsinki, does he still think he can make progress with putin? >> my understanding is yes. that's what i'm told by senior officials is that he continues to believe that. he thinks he can get a deal in syria. i don't know what that deal looks like. the official u.s. position is they want iran as far away from syria as possible. the one country that's quite happy with trump's conversations with putin is israel. they are happy with them having these conversations and they want to push the iranians away from the border as far as possible. benjamin netanyahu has a pretty
good relationship with putin. i think it will be hard because of domestic politics but also capitol hill. these members are getting pretty aggressive on russia and wanting to sanction them further so i think president trump will be having trouble. >>chris: there was an announcement of the meeting i think it was friday that the president had with the national security council and we were told this was a meeting about election meddling in 2018. what surprised me, this is the first one that they had announced.one would think they would have done this some time ago.>> you would. i think that might be to provide political cover because they need more talking points to push back on it. from the mike pompeo testimony on down is there committed people in the administration who wants to say the real policy is what we're doing and
not what the president is saying.[laughter] >>chris: interesting times. up next, our "power player of the week". the remarkable woman of these powerful pictures on the front lines.
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sudan, somalia. >>chris: why? >> there are great injustices that go on in war zones and its fundamental for someone to document that. >>chris: door for 2004. >> people screaming for their lives. we witness villages burned to the ground. >>chris: u.s. troops in afghanistan's - - in 2007. >> i woke up put on my night vision much of the picture and went back to sleep. >>chris: with the taliban in 2009, a story that won the pulitzer prize. >> if they invite you to their home, they will not kill you. they will protect you with their lives. we knew we hoped once we got there, because we had been invited. they would not kill us. >> the new york times says four of its journalists are now missing. >>chris: but her luck almost ran out when she and three colleagues were taken prisoner
by cutoff these forces in 2011. >> they were about to execute us. i said each one of my colleagues begging for their lives. i remember i could barely speak and i just please. at that moment a commander came over and said you can't kill them, they are american. >>chris: they were beaten and held for six days but then later released.two months later, she went back to work. noton the front lines but still in gaza and afghanistan . and by now, she was pregnant. did your family, did your friends, did you question what you were doing? >> the fact is, i was surrounded by pregnant women. >>chris: her son lucas is now six. when she comes home, he sits on her lap while she edits
pictures. sometimes of war refugees. >> i said sometimes people get killed. he said mommy, can you get killed? i can't like him and i just say, i will be fine. >>chris: so why does she do it? why does she risk life and keep risking her life with lucas waiting for back home? >> i don't need to take pretty pictures anymore.it's not about just being there to travel and take a picture. it's really about the storytelling. about journalism. about. about telling people's stories, making people care about things they wouldn't necessarily care about. i just keep working. i think for me this is my calling and my mission and that's what i believe in. >>chris: this fall, she will release her first book of
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president has a concern.but he absolutely respects the independence of the fed.the market expects interest rates to keep going up, the only question is how far and for how long we think the fed will be very careful in managing the economy. >>chris: in fact, isn't it responsible as the economy heats up. when we've had these artificially low interest rates when the economy was chugging along at 1-2 percent. isn't it responsible for the fed to increase interest rates? >> i think it is in the market expects it. it's been targeting two percent inflation and with two percent inflation, we have to have slightly higher interest rates to manage through that. >>chris: i want to ask you about another potential drag on the economy and that is the drop in some tech stocks. facebook dropped 19 percent on thursday. twitter fell 20 percent friday. intel and apple fell also.
well. >>chris: let's turn to trade. president trump announced what he called a quote, breakthrough agreement on trade with the european union this week but sir, isn't he exaggerating a bit? there were no tariffs removed in his discussions with the european commission. there were few specific commitments. there was one on soybeans and there was no timetable. in fact mr. secretary, all that the president and the president of the european commission agreed on is to start talking. >> that's actually not the case but let me just step back for a second. these talks started with the president, the g-7, singlets have no tariffs, no barriers and no subsidies. those talks continued with the g-7 but i was at the g 20, i met with my counterparts. and then when we had the president of the eu, we specifically went through a
detailed discussion. we had several hours of negotiating that in fourth on an outline of an agreement and now we have the hard work. the first step will be to resolve the steel and aluminum tariffs. when we do that, the retaliatory tariffs will come off. this was an agreement to reduce tariffs significantly across the board and we have about $1 trillion of trade. this is a very big opportunity to do things. >>chris: mr. secretary, let me give you one example of where the president and the administration makes it sound like there's a deal and the eu makes it sound like there isn't. here's what the president said to farmers in iowa this week. >> we just opened up europe for you farmers. you're not going to be too angry with trump, i can tell you. >>chris: as soon as he said that, the spokesperson for the european commission gave this response. quote, agriculture is out of the scope of these discussions. we are not negotiating about
agricultural products. mr. secretary, you are at odds, the president is at odds with the european union before the talks even start. >> chris, i was in the room and we had specific conversations about agriculture. and the need to break down the barriers on our culture and have more opportunities for our farmers. we specifically talked about soybeans but we specifically agreed we would look at these other markets. it was very clear our objective as part of this whole agreement is the europeans have to open up more opportunities for our farmers and agriculture.i can't comment on their comments. this will be an important part of any agreement we reached. >>chris: let me just ask you directly because this was on the record. the spokesperson for the european commission said, let me quote again, we are not negotiating about agricultural products. are you right or is she right? >> again, let me be clear.
we had specific conversation about soybeans. that was step one. we discussed other areas and again, this is all part of a negotiation. we will have an agreement and it will be an encompassing agreement. we want to drop tariffs and barriers across the board, that's what we're focused on doing. >>chris: forgive my skepticism and the skepticism of other people but i don't have to tell you, there's a big difference between trade talks in a trade deal. here you were in may here on "fox news sunday" talking about trade with china. >> we are putting the trade war on hold. right now, we have agreed to put the tariffs on hold while we try to execute the framework. >>chris: but within weeks of your making that declaration on this show, president trump announced $50 billion in new tariffs or tariffs on $50 billion worth of chinese goods.
so, what looked like a truth one minute can fall apart the next. >> you are right. these are complicated negotiations and these have to be turned into a real agreement that's literally hundreds and hundreds of pages. we're going part by part with euro. i was down in mexico last week. we had a terrific meeting with the new administration. the nafta talks are back on track. that's our number one priority to get nafta done. we will negotiate these by peace with the eu and we continue to have conversations with china and we will see what we get. but you are right, these things have to be negotiated because the president is very clear. he doesn't just want to talk. we want our counterparts to follow through and deliver on breaking down barriers and creating better opportunities
so we can reduce our giant trade deficit. >>chris: in response to farmers concern about getting hit by tariffs, the administration announced this week a $12 billion package in emergency aid. i looked back through the record and have spoken out several times against corporate welfare. when did handouts to farmers become strong, good, solid, conservative policy? >> i don't think these are handouts. it would be one thing if we were just subsidizing markets. that's not what we are doing here. this is a short form program to deal with retaliatory tariffs where you have people who put tariffs. which by the way, are against wto rules and are targeting our farmers. we are sticking up for our farmers so that they don't get hurt in these trade discussions. these are not long-term subsidies for the industry. >>chris: what do you say to some republican senators who blocked this idea and said they
need trade, not aid? >> we agree with that. the focus is trade, not aid and that's why were focused on negotiating these agreements. but the president is not willing to live with the status quo where other countries have taken advantage of the rules and have had to retreat here in our companies and workers can't compete fairly. it's just not fair. china has complete open access to our markets and we have virtually limited access to their markets and ventures. we are focused on, free and fair trade. let's take down the barriers. >>chris: secretary steve mnuchin, always good to talk with you. up next, we will bring in our sunday group to discuss what the good economic news will mean for republican-controlled congress come november. plus, rudy giuliani thinks
turner. how big a deal is this gdp growth and is enough for republicans to hang their hats on as they try to hold on to control of the house in november? >> normally you would think it would be and it is a big number. the problem is is that where the republicans are suffering most are among essentially why college-educated women in suburban districts. they seem to be immune to the boom in the economy and the gender gap is unprecedented for congressional candidates. so the idea of the economy he alone is what these women will vote for when they are the ones providing the margin of difference, i think it's unlikely and probably very worrisome.>>chris: there's been a lot of talk about a blue wave this november. a big democratic ticket. maybe control of the house and even the senate. i think you'd agree on where the absence of where the economy is always the top
issue.when you have historically low unemployment numbers, isn't that a pretty strong record for republicans to run on? >> first of all, we should all be celebrating 4.1 economic growth. it would have been the fifth strongest number of the obama administration. the obama administers, this is a continuation of the recovery that began in 2009 and 2010. that strong economy wasn't enough to help democrats last time. it wasn't enough to say - - i think it cannot be overstated that for a lot of these voters, particularly suburban voters were gas prices are going up. where there's more uncertainty around healthcare. after that, some of these working-class voters getting hit by the results of the tariffs on steel and aluminum. were getting hit by agricultural - - there's enough
economic uncertainty that even with this strong number, the republicans are facing a strong head wind. >>chris: let's turn to the so-called trade truce between the administration and the president and the head of the commission talked about this. here they are. >> this was a very big day for free and fair trade. very big day indeed. >> i have the intention to make a deal today. and we made a deal today. >>chris: you heard my conversation just before in the last segment with secretary of treasury steve mnuchin. what are your resources telling you about real dialing down of tariffs? >> there is no dialing down. they all remain in place. the retaliatory tariffs and if
what secretary manojsteve mnuch told you is true, it includes agricultural or they will have problems. because every country has its pets political issues they don't want to touch. for germany, it's cars. that's why cars weren't in that agreement. agriculture, big issue in europe. they've got their protected industries. >>chris: particularly in france. they said we don't want to lower agricultural tariffs. >> if the demand is we want zero tariffs on anything which was the - - the predecessor to the obama administration negotiating with europe for a free trade deal. that was the objective.
zero tariffs on all industries. this is basically a narrower version. it's going to be really hard like any massive trade negotiation. i don't have any indication they will withdraw the steel and aluminum tariffs but i do know the republicans are putting immense pressure on the administration quietly because they are worried. your whole first conversation about the economy, republicans see the trade agenda as the biggest risk for the midterms. >>chris: let's take a bigger look at the trade policy. there is no deal with the european union. the talks haven't even started. there's no deal on nafta with mexico and canada although there's a report of some progress. and there's certainly no deal, relations are tense and have gotten worse with china. how do you see the president trade policy and has specifically, his policy on tariffs. how do you see that playing out? >> as everyone has pointed out,
not a lot of specifics in the deal with younger. that doesn't mean it wasn't a valuable exercise. doing this joint press conference, sometimes conflict resolution 101 tells you when you have these contentious negotiations when two sides are really far apart and not agreeing on anything. just battled reaching the tipping point. the best thing to do is to just agree to agree later on and to a certain extent, that's what they achieved coming out of this. i don't think it was a worthless thing. >> there's a problem with that. this entire crisis, donald trump created it. he's like a fireman that goes to set the fires so he can be a hero. he creates this trade crisis and then he backs off from it and get back to the status quo that we had with a crisis in the first place. i don't know that there's been anything legitimately productive that's come out of
this whole chapter. >> to be fair, they did agree to hit paul's and not institute an escalation. i'm not saying this solves all the problems but it is something worthwhile. >>chris: the president has been on a twitter role and he just tweeted, he says, he would be willing to quote, shut down the government if he doesn't get everything he wants on immigration. he wants a wall, and end to the visa lottery. an end to the chain migration. is he really willing to see a shutdown which would be september 30, one month before the midterm elections. >> that too kind of shocks me. and not much shocks me from this president. the conversations i've had with his senior advisers as recently as a few weeks ago on this very subject is favor of the impression that they convinced
the president it was not in his political interest to shut down the federal government six weeks before an election. i don't know if this is just bluster, that he feels dissatisfied with the negotiations he's had with members of the senate that they haven't even had more of what he wants. we all know how angry he was with the last bill that didn't given his wall funding. >>chris: we will take a break and the later in the program. when we come back, michael, one once boasted he would take a bullet for his boss. now president trump's former attorney and picture
president's denial that he know anything about that 2016 trump tower meeting. joining me now, rudy giuliani be a welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> thank you chris, good to be with you. >>chris: i want to start with michael cohen. mr. trumps them her lawyer and fixer. here's what you said about cohen a couple months ago and the possibility he might talk to robert mueller. >> i expect he will cooperate. i don't think they will be happy because he doesn't have any terminating evidence about the president or himself. the man is an honest, honorable lawyer. >>chris: but now you say michael cohen is cooled, a pathological liar who's been fighting for years. so what happened? >> here's what happened. i found out that he was recording his clients which is a disposable offense. if i do that, i would never
have said he's a reputable lawyer.i would have said he's a scoundrel. i found out he not only tape lawyers but he had a conversation with one of your colleagues, chris cuomo in which he made a big show of putting hisphone in a draw . he then proceeded to record two hours of that conversation. makes him a total liar. i didn't know that. now i've listened unfortunately too many hours of tapes and the man is a pathological, manipulative, liar. i didn't know that. i knew nothing bad about michael cohen until all this started to happen in the last couple weeks. >>chris: how angry is president trump about being betrayed by a man he worked so closely with and what does it mean this talk now that their joint defense agreement is over, what is the
practical effect of that? >> the president feels disappointed. i think the anger is over. we've assured him this is a very good development equals we do have all of these tapes and they are completely demonstrate the president did nothing wrong. it would be hard to contradict that now. and he's done so many despicable things, his credibility is not an issue. the joint defense agreement is in effect over because he's making it clear that he will try to hurt the president and he obviously isn't going to give us information. >>chris: michael cohen's latest so-called revelation is that he reportedly is prepared to tell the special counsel robert mueller that he was witness to a conversation in which president trump knew in advance about the trump tower meeting. that don junior, jared kushner
and paul manafort are going to meet with the russian lawyer. that contradicts what president trump told the new york times last december. >> did you know about the meeting? >> i didn't know anything about the meeting. it must have been very unimportant because i never heard about it. >>chris: the president repeated this week he did not know in advance of the trump tower meeting. let's explore this for a moment. if he did know and did lie to the new york times last summer, when he said he didn't know. is there anything wrong with that? >> i guess there's something wrong with you on an ethical moral basis. if you got prosecuted for lying to the newspapers in the press, michael cohen should go to jail for 1000 years. his tapes are filled with lies. but no, he didn't lie to them. this is a leak so he may change it. michael cohen have to pick a day to determine the story.
michael cohen said he was present at different meetings. with don junior, jared and a group of other people in which they talked about the meeting two days later. then he said he was present the day of the meeting in the presidential office in which a few people came in and told the president. every other participant say, it is not true. there was no such meeting in advance.there was no such interruption. if he taped everything else, why didn't he tape this?it's not on tape and he's capable i think of doctoring tapes. it's just flat-out untrue. surprised he's lying? i would have been surprised back then but now that i know all of this, seems to me his default position is to live. he's a bad liar because he lives in contradiction to tapes and in contradiction to what i just said is supported by 2-5 witnesses.
>>chris: is it fair to say, that you are at war with michael cohen? >> i don't know. i don't think we are at war with him. i think the test is the investigators, the justice department and the american public. he doesn't get to decide this case. i should say, i feel sorry for him but no one would believe me.he's destroyed himself as a witness. i've prosecuted 5000 cases. i'vei would never prosecute a case on this guy's behalf. he's contradicted himself so many times. you begin your cross-examination with which set of lies will you tell today. >>chris: there was another big development this week and there was the tape that michael cohen secretly recorded a conversation in 2016 that he had with donald trump before the election in which there was a discussion of paying money to
buy the rights to the story of karen mcdougall claims she had a relationship with donald trump. here's a portion of that tape. >> i've spoken to alan about how to set the whole thing up. - - yes. all the stuff because the [indiscernible]. correct. >>chris: you say he violated attorney-client privilege by secretly recording it and making it public but michael cohen's lawyer said, you've been talking about the tape and since you talked about thetape, you have waived any attorney-client privilege. >> . [laughter] you've got to get the cart before the horse. the reality is they leaked the tape and then we quite clearly
responded which we are allowed to do. the new york times reporters have confirmed that which is unusual for them to do that. maggie haberman and mike schmidt. the court allows us to respond without waiving any privilege. if we have to defend him, that's what we have to do. it's been very helpful because now we've been able to put out the whole transcript which contradicts several things that lenny davis says but he's almost as bad as cohen. he said he didn't intend to deceive when he did these recordings. what is it to take a phone, put it in a tour and say you're recording them. these are lies that can be contradicted by tape recordings. >>chris: i want to ask you something that may seem off-topic but it will become of
relevance. about brett kavanaugh, he said the case that ordered nixon to turn over the tate, maybe nixon versus u.s. case was wrongly decided. in a 2009 article, he wrote this, like civil suits, criminal investigations take the president to focus away from his or her responsibilities to the people. a president concerned about an ongoing criminal investigation is almost inevitably going to do a worse job as president. question, is judge cavanaugh right on the law? >> i've looked at the law and i really just think those are opinions. the constitution is clear that the president cannot be subpoenaed or if he is, he is a right to challenge it on the grounds that they haven't
exhausted all other possibilities and other ways to get the information. there's the - - case closest one you can find was a cabinet officer and they said he can only be subpoenaed, taken away from his duties if there was no other way to get the information. so the president has at least that privilege. if he has a complete privilege and can be investigated at all, i would have to do more research. although law review articles have said, it does exist as the law in most countries. the head of state has immunity until he's out of office. so, that requires more analysis. >>chris: given the fact that that is judge cavanaugh's opinion and given the fact that a legal dispute between president trump and the special counsel might end up before the supreme court, would it be useful to have judge cavanaugh be justice cavanaugh? >> i don't know brett very
well. i know he was a person of high integrity. i know these off-the-cuff opinions like this, when somebody sits down and set the law. he may very well go the other direction. i wouldn't count on his vote on this. this is a question of first impression. and the tramp situation is very different than nixon. i don't think we get an edge one way or the other. i think the supreme court is as straight as you will get in our country.it will be a case they will have to decide in the first instance. it doesn't happen if they don't subpoena him no president has submitted to a subpoena.even clinton who was subpoenaed,they withdraw it before he testified. >>chris: thank you. please come back. up next, michael cohen
gives increasing signs he's ready to cut a deal with a special counsel. what would you like to ask th
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something he would project to people i talk to. he might have that conversation with melania or someone like that. his anger level is probably 12 out of 10. if you take rudy giuliani as a vessel, going out and calling michael cohen a pathological liar. that's pretty good proxy. as far as regard is how much exposure he has, the one thing i will say if people misconceived michael cohen's role in trump world. he was this as the books kind of lawyer as you can see from the tape recording. but it's not like he had full visibility over everything. i always see it stated as fact that he knows where everybody is buried. actually, he doesn't. he knows where 20 bodies are buried probably. however many more. it's really - - the lawyer that's been with trump for decades and started working for
trump's father who's just been subpoenaed. he's the guy really has visibility. on the hierarchy of consent, he should be much higher. >>chris: we asked you for questions for the panel pickup is on facebook writes, if michael cohen is telling the truth, how bad can this be for president trump? >> it depend what the this is and what he's saying. whether or not as you said, whether or not you lie to the new york times but that's not a crime. but, when michael cohen says president trump knew about the meeting in trump tower. what that does and also when we have this stuff about the payments, this wipes away a vast swap of the defense at the white house and its biggest supporters have been making for a long time.
they can't keep saying things are fake news when the media is not even part of it. when it's a taped interview or a taped phone conversation and it shrinks the circle of plausible deniability over a vast array of things. at the end of the day, it still depends what mother actually finds but i don't know that michael cohen is the silver bullet that a lot of anti-trump people want him to be. >>chris: let's turn to the continued fallout to the trump/putin summit. i think it's fair to say - - got hammered about not confronting putin for meddling in the 2016 election. >> and his conversation with putin, i hope thepresident laid out the consequences of interfering in the 20 2010 election. but i know you can't tell me. >> i can tell you because the president has disclosed that. >>chris: and it went downhill from there.
while the trump team is still trying to clean up from what happened in helsinki, russian foreign minister was asked about it this week but i don't know how you say it in russian but he described the summit as quote, better than super. [laughter] don't think that's particularly helpful for president trump when the russians seem so happy about how it went. >> it's not a good sign. particularly on the topic of election meddling, that is still the administration's weakest spot . whenever you've got the secretary of state and the president disagreeing on a policy issue, it creates a major problem. referring specifically to president trump saying he wasn't sure if he was going to take the intelligence community's assessment at face value that the russians interfered in the election. mike pompeo said a few minutes after that exchange that the president did take the assessment at face value.
that's a major sticking point. and the bigger issue of the helsinki summit, the president is almost having a barack obama moment. remember in 2011-2012, nobody wanted president obama to be talking to the - - in iran. and he wanted a deal and said i'm going to do this anyway. i think that's what president trump is doing now admits all of this blowback. think i want to deal with putin. >>chris: there was a curious development and the whole putin, trump relationship because the white house that had invited him to come to a summit in november which seems surprisingly quick, john bolton announced that no, they will put it over until the next year until as he put it, the witchhunt by which he meant the
robert mueller probe is over. but then putin announced on friday or saturday in south africa that they have invited president trump to come to moscow and have a summit at the kremlin. i don't know if that would be before or after a washington summit but that makes it as clear as mud. >> the russians from response was, don't know. may not be the best timing. the president reasons the invitation and in the russians it, you can always come to us. it's like putin is sitting there like a cat playing with a toy. he's having the time of his life with this president of the united states. when the president is out there singing he doesn't necessarily accept the intelligence community's assessment. forced then to backpedal and say no, i do. but then too within days that
it's a hoax. putin is getting everything he wants out of this relationship and that's not a good thing for the united states. >>chris: does the president still think after all of the blowback from helsinki, does he still think he can make progress with putin? >> my understanding is yes. that's what i'm told by senior officials is that he continues to believe that. he thinks he can get a deal in syria. i don't know what that deal looks like. the official u.s. position is they want iran as far away from syria as possible. the one country that's quite happy with trump's conversations with putin is israel. they are happy with them having these conversations and they want to push the iranians away from the border as far as possible. benjamin netanyahu has a pretty
good relationship with putin. i think it will be hard because of domestic politics but also capitol hill. these members are getting pretty aggressive on russia and wanting to sanction them further so i think president trump will be having trouble. >>chris: there was an announcement of the meeting i think it was friday that the president had with the national security council and we were told this was a meeting about election meddling in 2018. what surprised me, this is the first one that they had announced.one would think they would have done this some time ago.>> you would. i think that might be to provide political cover because they need more talking points to push back on it. from the mike pompeo testimony on down is there committed people in the administration who wants to say the real policy is what we're doing and
not what the president is saying.[laughter] >>chris: interesting times. up next, our "power player of the week".
sudan, somalia. >>chris: why? >> there are great injustices that go on in war zones and its fundamental for someone to document that. >>chris: door for 2004. >> people screaming for their lives. we witness villages burned to the ground. >>chris: u.s. troops in afghanistan's - - in 2007. >> i woke up put on my night vision much of the picture and went back to sleep. >>chris: with the taliban in 2009, a story that won the pulitzer prize. >> if they invite you to their home, they will not kill you. they will protect you with their lives. we knew we hoped once we got there, because we had been invited. they would not kill us. >> the new york times says four of its journalists are now missing. >>chris: but her luck almost ran out when she and three colleagues were taken prisoner
by cutoff these forces in 2011. >> they were about to execute us. i said each one of my colleagues begging for their lives. i remember i could barely speak and i just please. at that moment a commander came over and said you can't kill them, they are american. >>chris: they were beaten and held for six days but then later released.two months later, she went back to work. noton the front lines but still in gaza and afghanistan . and by now, she was pregnant. did your family, did your friends, did you question what you were doing? >> the fact is, i was surrounded by pregnant women. >>chris: her son lucas is now six. when she comes home, he sits on her lap while she edits
pictures. sometimes of war refugees. >> i said sometimes people get killed. he said mommy, can you get killed? i can't like him and i just say, i will be fine. >>chris: so why does she do it? why does she risk life and keep risking her life with lucas waiting for back home? >> i don't need to take pretty pictures anymore.it's not about just being there to travel and take a picture. it's really about the storytelling. about journalism. about. about telling people's stories, making people care about things they wouldn't necessarily care about. i just keep working. i think for me this is my calling and my mission and that's what i believe in. >>chris: this fall, she will release her first book of
Interviews with newsmakers and discussions of current affairs. adviser john bolton and marco rubio, a top member of the senate intelligence and foreign relations committee. bolton and marco rubio only on "fox news sunday". then a federal judge blocked a texas activist from putting blueprints online to make plastic on some 3-d printers. cody wilson joins us to explain why he thinks it's a good idea. hours after this - - >> i do not feel the media is the enemy of the people. >>chris: president trump bashes journalists again. >> what ever happened to fair press? what ever happened to honest reporting? they don't report it. they only make up stories. >>chris: we will ask our sunday panel about the trump family divine. all right now on "fox news sunday". hello again from fox news in washington. top national security officials say the threat from russian meddling in the upcoming
our country and to let ms-13 run wild in our communities. >>reporter: that is exactly what we can expect more of heading into the midterms. this is president trump third campaign rally this week. that case is only expected to accelerate. >>chris: kristin fisher reporting from columbus, ohio. joining me now is the president's national security advisor, john bolton. welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> glad to be with you. >>chris: let's begin with breaking news, venezuelan president is calling an assassination attempt against him yesterday. let's put up this video. pretty striking. the president speaking at a military event when drums loaded with explosives exploded. you can see security protecting was ballistic blankets and military. began to stampede.
united states. these are things he's said before. you have to take them for what they're worth. if the government of venezuela has hard information that they want to present that would show a potential violation of u.s. criminal law, we will take a serious look at it. in the meantime, i think what we should really focus on is the corruption and oppression of the regime in venezuela. >>chris: let's turn to the apparent disconnect between what trump administration officials are saying about russian meddling in 2016 and 2018 and what president trump is saying about the here is how dhs secretary nielsen described in the president hours later. >> our democracy itself is in the crosshairs. >> i had a great meeting with putin and we discussed everything. now we are being hindered by the russian hoax. it's a hoax.
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election security at the federal level. in a nonclassified environment. >>chris: they are saying, this is a clear and present danger, that russia did it in 2016 and are continuing to do it now. you have the secretary of homeland security with her hair on fire think democracy is in the crosshairs and you have president trump think you're being hindered by the russian hoax. that is not the press making that up. anybody who looks at it has got to see it a difference there. >> i think what he's saying about the hoax is the idea that the russians directed control of his campaign or administration, that there were some conspiracy or violation of u.s. line 2016. >>chris: he's handed down an indictment of 12 military intelligence officers of the g are you. >> there's no question that's going on. the hoax is the idea that the trump campaign was a
their one-on-one meeting with one not stand there right alongside putin with the whole world watching and say, we will not stand foranymore meddling? >> as the president said, he misspoke, the subs subsequent point. he had a statement issued the next day that i think made clear where he stood on the issue. as i say, you can't read any motive into what he did other than his deep concern about russian election meddling then to put the four operating heads out for that press briefing. the whole point of that was to show what his administration was doing to counter russian meddling and other broader influence operations right now. >>chris: even kristin fisher's piece about the rally, he does that meddling. he says there were a lot of people involved. no there wasn't. it was russia. that to everybody's been
focusing on. that's who you focused on in your briefing. >> rights. there's no question that russia was the principal violator and their activity this year, puts them in the lead the activity so far at least is down from 2016. but it does not exclude for the potential for others to muddle. and i think the broader issue that i think christopher wray talked about in particular of influence efforts that go beyond the specifics of a particular election. i think that's very troubling too. >>chris: you talk about the media and the idea they all jump off the telephone line. >> not everyone but a lot of them. >>chris: in a much more direct way, the president critiqued the media. iwant to put up the streets. this tweets. this is one of them. the fake news hates me saying
they're the enemy of the people, only becausethey know it's true. i'm providing a service by explaining this to the american people. they purposely cause great division and distrust. they can also cause war. they are very dangerous and sick . ambassador, what war is it that we've started? >> i think the issue of press bias has been a long time. i supported barry goldwater in 1964, i thought the press had was biased against him. >>chris: absolutely. there is bias and people get things wrong and they should be called out for it. cause war, six, this is taking it to a completely different level. >> that the presence of you based on the attacks the media has made on him. there have been other administrations that have been highly critical of the press as well. i remember john kennedy cutting off the white house subscription to the new york times. >>chris: it was the herald tribune but close enough. >> i think this adversarial relationship is typical.
>>chris: we learned north korea continues to produce plutonium. continues to build new missiles. there are reports that north korea is violating the sanctions by ship to ship transfers. china and russia are stepping up their efforts to ease around the sanctions. at what point does the trump administration say that kim is playing us. there he isn't serious about denuclearization and basically call him on this? >> that point may well, as i've said to you and others before. there's nobody in this administration starry eyed about the prospects of north korea the nuclear rising. i think the president is giving kim jong-un a master class in how to hold the door open for somebody. if the north koreans can't
they retaliated.now we are talking about 25 percent on $200 billion more in chinese exports and they are threatening tariffs on $60 billion of u.s. products. here's larry kudlow. >> the president is impatient. so yes it to our team, take a look at raising the tariff on them. last 200. take a look. he's impatient. >>chris: how far is president trump prepare to go in his standoff with china and if chinese president xi jinping doesn't blink or back down, how long could this go on? >> i think as larry was in, don't underestimate president trump's resolve. for decades, china has been the principal malefactor trying to use a free trade aspiration. most of the rest the world has to pursue mercantilist goals. it steals intellectual
property. >>chris: how far you prepare to take this? >> far enough to get china to change its behaviorand they need to understand that. >>chris: if they don't ?>> i think the pressure will continue and the president has made that very clear. >>chris: ambassador bolton, always good to talk with you. when we come back, senator marco rubio joins us exclusively to talk about his push to hit russia if they meddle in our midterms as well as his plans for paid family leave. later, should blueprints to make a plastic gun in your own home be available online? the debate over these homemade firearms and free speech. that's all coming up. ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ -we're in a small room. what?! -welcome. -[ gasps ]
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off-the-cuff statements about russia, north korea and iran stand in contrast to the rest of his administration and much of the republican party. we want to discuss that with senator marco rubio, a key member of the senate foreign relations and intelligence committee. : two "fox news sunday".>> thank you, thanks for having me back. >>chris: you are trying to get the senate to pass what you call the dieter act which would invoke automatic sanctions against russia or any country that interferes with u.s. elections. is what top intelligence officials at the trump administration send this week. >> russia attempted to interfere with the last election and continue to engage in maligned influence operations to this day. >> it's pervasive, it is ongoing. with the intent to achieve their intent and that is drive
a wedge and undermine our democratic values. >>chris: if you can get congress to pass the legislation, given what we just heard. should sanctions be imposed on russia right now? >> there's always cause for sanctions against putin's government because their ongoing violations of human rights and the like. to their credit, this administration has imposed tough sanctions already. but what we are hoping today is deter future activity. create a situation where vladimir putin has to weigh the costs and benefits. we will show them what the costs are when he weighs the cost and benefit of taking similar action in 2018, hopefully he will determine the cost is too high. i can't guarantee that but i can guarantee if we don't do something, he will interfere i multiple ways . >>chris: one interesting aspect of your legislation is under
the bill, it's the director of national intelligence, not the president who would certify that interference had taken place. given all the presidents talk about the russia hoax, don't you trust him to call out kremlin meddling? >> i do. especially if it happens in 2018. that's part of the bill we will probably have to rework because we want to pass the bill. we want to create an automatic way for sanctions to kick in. there will probably have to be an additional of a presidential waiver. the dni will play a key role. that's the way we crafted it but the partner i'm working with, we are willing to make reasonable changes that allows us to pass it and that's probably one of those that we've heardpush back on. we wantto do something done and do whatever it takes to pass a law that will have real
sanctions that will you can house pass past the house and senate. >>chris: president trump tweeted this. attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witchhunt right now for it continues to stain our country any further. afterwords, you said special counsel robert mueller should be allowed to finish his work and all of the truth should come out. in pursuit of that truth, should president trump sit down with the special counsel to answer any questions about russian collusion, obstruction of justice and what if he refuses and the special counsel get the subpoena? >> the second question is really for the president lawyers. i'm not in a position to give legal advice to the president. but let me talk about the first part and that is, this is no mystery. he believes strongly, he says he knows for a fact that he did not collude with the russians and he thinks this
investigation is solely about collusion and that's how he feels strongly. my position based on thing i know about this case is the following. i believe it's in the best interest of the president and the united states of america for that investigation to run the course for all the truth to come out. i think it's the best thing that could happen for him in the country. i was late, he is annoyed by thatinvestigation continuing to go on because it's about him h. and he hasn't frantically said he has included with the russians. if there was strong evidence of collusion, i guarantee it would have been leaked by now but let's wait for the process to play itself out and i think that's what should happen. mueller should finish his work and the truth should come out. >>chris: as part of that process, you save for the best interest of the present. should he sit down and answer all questions? >> it's easy to see that from a political - - but that's not an
interview. it's an interview with a lot enforcement official. there are plenty of people that are innocent whose lawyer would tell them to not sit down and answer questions from a prosecutor. that's a decision for the president to make alongside his attorneys.it's my understanding that he wants to do it. it's his attorneys that have questions about them. there are plenty of innocent people whose lawyers tell them to not answer questions. i don't want to prejudge or somehow imply that by not sitting down, he is guilty of something. >>chris: let's turn to north korea. do you think the tim regime is playing president trump? >> i do not believe he is ever going to give uphis nuclear ars. what i believe he will do is a series of unilateral concessions to that do not undermine his capabilities in
the long-term. i think he's more than willing to tear apart the facilities, as he's got newer ones that work better. i believe, he believes, even if he gets rid of some of the new enrichment capability, he already has existing weapons and existing enriched capabilities that he can hide from the world. every time he does one of these productions, he is engendering goodwill internationally which is ultimately his goal. to undermine national support for sanctions by underlining all of these things i'm doing. that's his goal in my opinion and i hope he's wrong. >>chris: it appears to be working. we understand north korea is violating the sanctions by doing ship to ship transfers. we hear that russia is doing business with north korea. they are bringing thousands of more workers into the country who are ineffective slaves to send money back to the regime.
isn't tim succeeding in lowering the temperature. breaking apart the alliance of sanctions and president trump is being played? >> neither one of those two things are new. the laborers to russia has been going on in the ship to ship transfer is the only way to evade. i think we need to be becareful about - - [indiscernible]. the chinese would love for this to be a step-by-step process that drags out. i don't know if the president is being played. i think he's hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.the sanctions remain in place. i think they need to be more cautious about continuing to engage our partners around the world that they are fully aware of what's happening and what isn't happening in north korea point what's real and what isn't real. i will have concerns about anything they've done so far.
>>chris: i want to ask you about one of your other big issues and that is you have introduced legislation to create paid family leave. you take the money that would go to the parents of newborn children from social security payments they would get later on. democrats say the benefit is too small and it shouldn't come out of retirement payments and third, most people take family leave for illnesses. either their own or family members. they don't take it for childbirth. ivanka trump was a big supporter said there's no chance this is going to happen in this congress. >> nothing is going to happen other than the bills that are stacked up and ready to goal. if this is a big issue, it's a revolutionary idea and it will take time to pass. here's what it does, it's an option. you don't have to. the benefit is comparable to
what you get in the private sector in terms of paid family leave for the birth of a child. number three, the concept is this. if you choose to dictate families, at least six weeks, up to 12 weeks. you can decide some of your retirement benefits from your money and social security, you can advance and take now instead of later. a portion of it. it's a choice, an option you have. for the 85 percent of americans that today have no options at all other than to skip paychecks. how many people can afford to skip one paycheck not to mention 4-6 after the birth of a child? >>chris: senator marco rubio, thank you point please come back. up next, we bring in our sunday group to discuss president trump's escalating attacks on the media. the faceup with reporters gets even more heated. would you like to ask the panel about the presidents threat to shut down the government before the midterm elections over funding for his border wall. just go to facebook or twitter @foxnewssunday and we may use your question on the air. a litt,
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>> it would be bad politics for the republican party to shut the government down. we'd get blamed. >>chris: senator lindsey graham warning president trump not to shut the government down over immigration issues ahead of the midterms. it's time now for oursunday group. karl rove , philippe reines, susan page and jason riley. which heading down the government over the wall and immigration issues help or hurt republicans in the midterms? >> her to the republicans. they've they are seen of having control of the government. regardless of how the president describes the culprits as being the democrats, it will hurt the republicans. the presidents approval is 46-51 and the latest fox poll. 43-55 on immigration. >> so don't push immigration?
>> don't shut down the government. if you want to shut down the government, shut it down over the economy but people don't believe particularly when it comes to the wall that it's the right thing. the wall is the weakest border security. you noticed he stopped talking about the wall and border security. even inside the white house, the wall is not as popular as border security. >>chris: we asked you for questions and on this issue of apollo'spossible shutdown got this question. if potus shuts down the government, how will he get his supreme court pick confirmed and how will the republicans get blamed? >> as my insider knowledge of the gop, i think this is another example of the president putting a bigger problem to his own party than the democrats who most of the time that are just bystanders.
i don't know what he gets out of it but i don't think he cares. i don't think he really cares what happens in november. >> of course he does. he knows what happens to his agenda if he loses the house. >> i think he knows he gets to run against the house in 2020. i don't think he worries about impeachment. as much as his colleagues in congress to. >>chris: i'm going to switch subjects in terms of the president bashing of the media. i know it's always all about us but it seemed to hit critical mass this week.you just heard my conversation with ambassador bolton in which the president says media can cause wars, they are sick. we had this conversation about ivanka trump who talked about the fake media and president trump hours later.
>> i have sensitivity around why people have concerns and gripes, especially when they feel targeted. i do not feel the media is the enemy of the people. >> they can make anything bad because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. >>chris: susan, there was also that moment in the white house briefing room where cnn reporter jim acosta, some will say he was grandstanding. i kind of agree with that but he challenged sarah sanders, the spokeswoman to declare that the press are not the enemy of the people and she refused. >> i care more about what the president says then the press secretary. mr. bolton in your interview setting adversarial with white house is common. haven't covered six white houses, that is true.
but the rhetoric the president is using, enemy of the people, this is a phrase from stalin. it is chilling and unprecedented in modern times. it does not recognize the world that the founders sought for a free and vigorous press to hold officials accountable and to be the friend of the american people. i think it's enormously serious. >>chris: jason, let me ask you a question. you've had un officials in charge of freedom of expression around the world this week say these kind of comments, again, i don't think were talking about criticism of the media. we are talking about fake news, starting wars, enemy of the people, that it undermines the role of the free press around the world to hold governments accountable.>> ivanka trump is right. the press is not the enemy of the people and you are right
that this rhetoric coming out of the white house is unprecedented. but so is some of the behavior of the media these days. media is supposed to be covering this white house objectively and is behaving much more like activists than on objective journalists. this too i think has reached a lumpy when that happens i believe the press deserves to be called out. the pressure not be the story. the story should be making sure the voters are informed and too often these days, they are making themselves the story. >>chris: the president makes them the story. >> that is due to this relationship that i think all administration's have. but the press often takes the bait. this is what we end up talking about. the press loves talking about the press.>> as a reporter, i do not love talking about the press. i think what is happening, there are certainly things to
criticize about the press. but i think with the president is doing is undermining faith in the institutions that stand to challenge him. >>chris: let me bring in karl, because as a white house officials, you felt you were probably unfairly targeted by the press. where is the line between what we do wrong and accurate reporting and what the president is doing right now? >> any white house has the right to be specific in criticizing that coverage. i think the administration ought to say we think this is what's wrong. but the ferocity of these generalized slurs if you will against the press and the frequency is disturbing to me.
i watched the speech. i lost track, about 18-19 times that the presidentwent after the press. every time he did, that crowd toward its approval . but that crowd represents the hard-core base. this does not help him with his bigger problem. 28 percent strongly approved. those with people strongly screaming when he said enemy of the people but 41 percent strongly disapprove. he is enraging the opposition while reinforcing a smaller base . >>chris: you were talking up before about losing the midterms with - - [indiscernible] >> it's working for him but that doesn't mean it's right. it's a part of a war on the truth. i've been on the other side of this, you know that and susan probably knows that. >>chris: you worked for hillary clinton. >> the media is not always perfect but you get on the phone and you talk about it.
my beef now is the media has to accept that this is not normal behavior. they have to realize they are in combat they have to start acting differently. stop broadcasting the daily press briefings live, get rid of the soap opera aspect. the grandstanding. they have to use the word lie when he lies, etc. >>chris: well, i disagree with that. when we come back, the battle over 3d printed guns. cody wilson wants americans to have the information to make guns in their own homes.he joins us next. ♪ motorcycle revving ♪motorcycle revving ♪ motorcycle revving ♪ no matter who rides point, ♪ there are over 10,000 allstate agents riding sweep. ♪♪ and just like tyrone taylor, they know what it takes to help keep you protected. are you in good hands?
making the information available to everyone on the internet. mr. wilson, director of defense distributed joins us from austin, texas. simple question, why on earth do you think putting these blueprints for plastic guns online is a good idea? >> hi chris. i put the blueprints for all types of guns, all technical plans, all data past and present. i put them all online and that's the right i have secured. it's not that i'm somehow only fascinated by the idea of a printable gun.it was a mere demonstration of a much wider capability. firearms which is in no way precluded by current law. >>chris: as i understand it, you say this is your first amendment right. information you're putting it online, not what happens after people receive that information. i'll have to tell you that the first amendment is not an absolute right.
you're not allowed to cry fire in a crowded theater. courts have exercised fire restraint to stop people from publishing movements in the time of war. it's not an absolute right. >> chris, i'd expect you to not propagate that ignorance. fire in a crowded theater has not been law for over 40 years. that case was replaced with the standard is even the most inflammatory speech is protected by the first amendment unless it produces eminently unlawful action or is likely to produce imminent harm. these are not the standards. we need to correct people's ignorance. the first amendment without question protects this kind of data. lawfully produced, it's got a cognizant government authority. it's directly related to another protected right which is the second amendment. speech about another amendment is even more protected. >>chris: first of all, we don't know whether it's protected because a judge issued a temporary restraining order and
there will be a court hearing about this this week. i know you will be pursuing this. you talk about speech that incisor creates the opportunity for illegal action, here's the problem with putting these blueprints about plastic guns on the internet. it allows people to create, to make guns that are untraceable. there's no serial number. it allows them to make guns that are undetectable. they can get through a metal detector. it also allows people who would be prohibited from having guns, whether it's someone with a mental illness, a felon, domestic abuse or even a terrorist. it allows them to make guns. take a look at democratic senator ed markey. >> these downloadable firearms are available even to those who could not pass a background check. it's the ultimate gun loophole. >>chris: the nra has supported the law that makes these guns undetectable firearms, illegal.
for 30 years. >> i don't think ited markey kn you could legally make a gun until last week. this is their discovery that it's been legal to make a gun for yourself.i'm sorry you just found that out. okay, but you should have made a law. make it illegal to make guns in this country. >>chris: they did make an undetectable firearms act that passed 30 years ago. >> it's legal to make a gun if you include a requisite amount of metal. that's why i'm not in jail. my principal guns have the required amount of metal. maybe even that type of law ultimately couldn't survive second amendment scrutiny but i'm not here to argue for or against our security norms. i'm arguing that what i want in court was the right, not just singularly but all americans
have the right to share data for making firearms on the internet. this is not controversial. the progressive case, nuclear plants, these are protected by the first amendment. i'm sorry that people are just waking up to the idea that the first amendment protects scientific inquiry. >>chris: you first put a blueprint online in 2013 and it was downloaded almost 100,000 times before you were stopped by the government. since you put the blueprint again after a settlement with thefederal government online, it was downloaded more than 20,000 times . is the genie already out of the bottle and we are arguing about something that's already happened? lex frankly, that's the case. >> when the attorney general came intowashington they said y
honor, he's going to release this august 1. in one sense i released it three years five years ago. these attorney generals have no standing. the judge can't review the decision the state department made so i'm watching all of these gun files online and when we both know guns are now downloadable and they have been repeatedly demonstrated to be. >>chris: to a certain degree, i think you are saying i'm just making the information available but i'm not responsible for what people do once they get the information. the fact is, there are real-world consequences here. what if somebody takes your information, make the gun and then goes out and kill someone, potentially god forbid kills a member of your family. do you bear any responsibility? would you feel any remorse? >> i credit the question as an honest question as good faith but i believe in the second
amendment to the point of, it's all right and it should be expected there will be social cost for protecting a right. why is the people's right to keep and bear arms on the bill of rights? because we know there are downside and there are consequences to allowing free people to own the means of self-defense. we should expect and have a mature attitude that bad things can happen. >>chris: but the government has made decisions that for the best of society, certain people should be prevented from having guns. it should be easier to trace and to detect. you are going around all of that. >> i disagree. with respect, i disagree. the government has regulated manufacturers of arms but the government has never regulated the production of firearms that you are allowed to own. an american can make a gun and there's no requirement for the serial number on it and i'm sorry that a bunch of politicians woke up to the
reality of this just last week but this is the way it's always been. >>chris: cody wilson, thank you for talking with us. up next, our "power player of the week". the army's art collection puts powerful nazi propaganda from world war ii under lock and key. i'm gonna regret that. with liberty mutual new car replacement we'll replace the full value of your car. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ >> one of the highlights of
rockwell illustrations from world war ii. >>chris: do you ever feel like you're in that warehouse at the end of indiana jones? >> we make that joke all the time. >>chris: we were there to see the status of nazi propaganda. 586 pieces seized during hitler's fall and sent back to the u.s. >> hitler's retreat at - - the luxurious mountain residents. >>chris: the man in charge of the operation, - -, appointed by president roosevelt. >> why was it so important to remove this art from germany postwar? >> they believed the presence of these pieces in german society could be essentially a powder cake that could kick off additional incidents of the nazi rise. >>chris: this painting, in the beginning, was the word.>>it's intentionally titled to mirror the first verse of the book of john in the bible and it very clearly equates adolf hitler with john the baptist. >>chris: and almost godlike figure in his disciples. there's another called the standardbearer. >> it portrays adolf hitler as a medieval night. he's carrying a nazi flag, mounted on a horse and he's prepared to lead his people into battle. >>chris: what is this? >> an american soldier took his rifle and he punched through the eye of hitler as a direct message. >>chris: the army found this in the eagles nest. >> when the nazis held meetings of triumph - - >>chris: a grand hall he used for grand meetings. >> the large-scale partconveys his personal power. >>chris: perhaps most fascinating are these watercolors painted by hitler.
as an inspiring art student and a soldier in world war i, long before his rise to power. >> one of the comments on the early evaluations of his work was that while he was pretty good at depicting buildings and structures, he was not so good at depicting human life. >>chris: the chances are you will never get to see any of these works in person. the army keeps them locked up and its mammoth storage facility. is there concern some of these pieces can be used as a rallying point for neo-nazis in this country? >> that's the heart of the tight control we maintain over the collection. >>chris: it could be potentially dangerous. >> the time i like to use is, powerful. >>chris: the army is building a national museum opening in 2020
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question, did the u.s. play any role and what your reaction to what maduro is calling an assassination attempt? >> i can say unequivocally there was no u.s. involvement at all. i spoke with - - down there, he and his staff are up much of the night making sure americans in venezuela were safe. as of now, we think everybody noticed at the embassy is in a secure position. they will evaluate conditions today but they focused on that principal responsibility. as of now, feel pretty confident that americans are accounted for. with respect to what happened last afternoon, look, could be a lot of things. from a pretext set up by the maduro regime himself. he's made accusations regarding the outgoing president of columbia responsibility. what he calls the extreme right wing and that's a vast opposition to his authoritarian role and unnamed - - in the
united states. these are things he's said before. you have to take them for what they're worth. if the government of venezuela has hard information that they want to present that would show a potential violation of u.s. criminal law, we will take a serious look at it. in the meantime, i think what we should really focus on is the corruption and oppression of the regime in venezuela. >>chris: let's turn to the apparent disconnect between what trump administration officials are saying about russian meddling in 2016 and 2018 and what president trump is saying about the here is how dhs secretary nielsen described in the president hours later. >> our democracy itself is in the crosshairs. >> i had a great meeting with putin and we discussed everything. now we are being hindered by the russian hoax. it's a hoax. >>chris: ambassador, which is
it?is it a threat to our democracy or is it a hoax? >> i know there's this narrative in the press that there is a disjunction between the president and the rest of his administration. i got to know eugene mccarthy, the late democratic senator. used to describe the process as a group of birds sitting on a telephone wire. one would fly off and then they'd all fly off. that's what this narrative i think is all about. the president knew exactly what was going to be said at that press briefing on thursday. he's the one who directed it be held. it came as a result of a national security council meeting we held the friday before were the heads of the operating agencies who attended on thursday and others, told the president what we were doing. he thought it was important the american people heard directly from the people responsible for election security at the
federal level. in a nonclassified environment. >>chris: they are saying, this is a clear and present danger, that russia did it in 2016 and are continuing to do it now. you have the secretary of homeland security with her hair on fire think democracy is in the crosshairs and you have president trump think you're being hindered by the russian hoax. that is not the press making that up. anybody who looks at it has got to see it a difference there. >> i think what he's saying about the hoax is the idea that the russians directed control of his campaign or administration, that there were some conspiracy or violation of u.s. line 2016. >>chris: he's handed down an indictment of 12 military intelligence officers of the g are you. >> there's no question that's going on. the hoax is the idea that the trump campaign was a
their one-on-one meeting with one not stand there right alongside putin with the whole world watching and say, we will not stand foranymore meddling? >> as the president said, he misspoke, the subs subsequent point. he had a statement issued the next day that i think made clear where he stood on the issue. as i say, you can't read any motive into what he did other than his deep concern about russian election meddling then to put the four operating heads out for that press briefing. the whole point of that was to show what his administration was doing to counter russian meddling and other broader influence operations right now. >>chris: even kristin fisher's piece about the rally, he does that meddling. he says there were a lot of people involved. no there wasn't. it was russia. that to everybody's been
focusing on. that's who you focused on in your briefing. >> rights. there's no question that russia was the principal violator and their activity this year, puts them in the lead the activity so far at least is down from 2016. but it does not exclude for the potential for others to muddle. and i think the broader issue that i think christopher wray talked about in particular of influence efforts that go beyond the specifics of a particular election. i think that's very troubling too. >>chris: you talk about the media and the idea they all jump off the telephone line. >> not everyone but a lot of them. >>chris: in a much more direct way, the president critiqued the media. iwant to put up the streets. this tweets. this is one of them. the fake news hates me saying
they're the enemy of the people, only becausethey know it's true. i'm providing a service by explaining this to the american people. they purposely cause great division and distrust. they can also cause war. they are very dangerous and sick . ambassador, what war is it that we've started? >> i think the issue of press bias has been a long time. i supported barry goldwater in 1964, i thought the press had was biased against him. >>chris: absolutely. there is bias and people get things wrong and they should be called out for it. cause war, six, this is taking it to a completely different level. >> that the presence of you based on the attacks the media has made on him. there have been other administrations that have been highly critical of the press as well. i remember john kennedy cutting off the white house subscription to the new york times. >>chris: it was the herald tribune but close enough. >> i think this adversarial relationship is typical.
talking about 25 percent on $200 billion more in chinese exports and they are threatening tariffs on $60 billion of u.s. products. here's larry kudlow. >> the president is impatient. so yes it to our team, take a look at raising the tariff on them. last 200. take a look. he's impatient. >>chris: how far is president trump prepare to go in his standoff with china and if chinese president xi jinping doesn't blink or back down, how long could this go on? >> i think as larry was in, don't underestimate president trump's resolve. for decades, china has been the principal malefactor trying to use a free trade aspiration. most of the rest the world has to pursue mercantilist goals. it steals intellectual property.
>>chris: how far you prepare to take this? >> far enough to get china to change its behaviorand they need to understand that. >>chris: if they don't ?>> i think the pressure will continue and the president has made that very clear. >>chris: ambassador bolton, always good to talk with you. when we come back, senator marco rubio joins us exclusively to talk about his push to hit russia if they meddle in our midterms as well as his plans for paid family leave. later, should blueprints to make a plastic gun in your own home be availabl sleep disturbances keep 1 in 3 adults up at night. only remfresh uses ion-powered melatonin to deliver up to 7 hours of sleep support. number 1 sleep doctor recommended remfresh -- your nightly sleep companion. available in the natural sleep section at walmart. >> president trump's
off-the-cuff statements about russia, north korea and iran stand in contrast to the rest of his administration and much of the republican party. we want to discuss that with senator marco rubio, a key member of the senate foreign relations and intelligence committee. : two "fox news sunday".>> thank you, thanks for having me back. >>chris: you are trying to get the senate to pass what you call the dieter act which would invoke automatic sanctions against russia or any country that interferes with u.s. elections. is what top intelligence officials at the trump administration send this week. >> russia attempted to interfere with the last election and continue to engage in maligned influence operations to this day. >> it's pervasive, it is ongoing. with the intent to achieve their intent and that is drive a wedge and undermine our
democratic values. >>chris: if you can get congress to pass the legislation, given what we just heard. should sanctions be imposed on russia right now? >> there's always cause for sanctions against putin's government because their ongoing violations of human rights and the like. to their credit, this administration has imposed tough sanctions already. but what we are hoping today is deter future activity. create a situation where vladimir putin has to weigh the costs and benefits. we will show them what the costs are when he weighs the cost and benefit of taking similar action in 2018, hopefully he will determine the cost is too high. i can't guarantee that but i can guarantee if we don't do something, he will interfere i multiple ways . >>chris: one interesting aspect of your legislation is under
the bill, it's the director of national intelligence, not the president who would certify that interference had taken place. given all the presidents talk about the russia hoax, don't you trust him to call out kremlin meddling? >> i do. especially if it happens in 2018. that's part of the bill we will probably have to rework because we want to pass the bill. we want to create an automatic way for sanctions to kick in. there will probably have to be an additional of a presidential waiver. the dni will play a key role. that's the way we crafted it but the partner i'm working with, we are willing to make reasonable changes that allows us to pass it and that's probably one of those that we've heardpush back on. we wantto do something done and do whatever it takes to pass a law that will have real sanctions that will you can
house pass past the house and senate. >>chris: president trump tweeted this. attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witchhunt right now for it continues to stain our country any further. afterwords, you said special counsel robert mueller should be allowed to finish his work and all of the truth should come out. in pursuit of that truth, should president trump sit down with the special counsel to answer any questions about russian collusion, obstruction of justice and what if he refuses and the special counsel get the subpoena? >> the second question is really for the president lawyers. i'm not in a position to give legal advice to the president. but let me talk about the first part and that is, this is no mystery. he believes strongly, he says he knows for a fact that he did not collude with the russians and he thinks this
investigation is solely about collusion and that's how he feels strongly. my position based on thing i know about this case is the following. i believe it's in the best interest of the president and the united states of america for that investigation to run the course for all the truth to come out. i think it's the best thing that could happen for him in the country. i was late, he is annoyed by thatinvestigation continuing to go on because it's about him h. and he hasn't frantically said he has included with the russians. if there was strong evidence of collusion, i guarantee it would have been leaked by now but let's wait for the process to play itself out and i think that's what should happen. mueller should finish his work and the truth should come out. >>chris: as part of that process, you save for the best interest of the present. should he sit down and answer all questions? >> it's easy to see that from a political - - but that's not an
interview. it's an interview with a lot enforcement official. there are plenty of people that are innocent whose lawyer would tell them to not sit down and answer questions from a prosecutor. that's a decision for the president to make alongside his attorneys.it's my understanding that he wants to do it. it's his attorneys that have questions about them. there are plenty of innocent people whose lawyers tell them to not answer questions. i don't want to prejudge or somehow imply that by not sitting down, he is guilty of something. >>chris: let's turn to north korea. do you think the tim regime is playing president trump? >> i do not believe he is ever going to give uphis nuclear ars. what i believe he will do is a series of unilateral concessions to that do not undermine his capabilities in the long-term.
i think he's more than willing to tear apart the facilities, as he's got newer ones that work better. i believe, he believes, even if he gets rid of some of the new enrichment capability, he already has existing weapons and existing enriched capabilities that he can hide from the world. every time he does one of these productions, he is engendering goodwill internationally which is ultimately his goal. to undermine national support for sanctions by underlining all of these things i'm doing. that's his goal in my opinion and i hope he's wrong. >>chris: it appears to be working. we understand north korea is violating the sanctions by doing ship to ship transfers. we hear that russia is doing business with north korea. they are bringing thousands of more workers into the country who are ineffective slaves to send money back to the regime.
isn't tim succeeding in lowering the temperature. breaking apart the alliance of sanctions and president trump is being played? >> neither one of those two things are new. the laborers to russia has been going on in the ship to ship transfer is the only way to evade. i think we need to be becareful about - - [indiscernible]. the chinese would love for this to be a step-by-step process that drags out. i don't know if the president is being played. i think he's hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.the sanctions remain in place. i think they need to be more cautious about continuing to engage our partners around the world that they are fully aware of what's happening and what isn't happening in north korea point what's real and what isn't real. i will have concerns about anything they've done so far. >>chris: i want to ask you
about one of your other big issues and that is you have introduced legislation to create paid family leave. you take the money that would go to the parents of newborn children from social security payments they would get later on. democrats say the benefit is too small and it shouldn't come out of retirement payments and third, most people take family leave for illnesses. either their own or family members. they don't take it for childbirth. ivanka trump was a big supporter said there's no chance this is going to happen in this congress. >> nothing is going to happen other than the bills that are stacked up and ready to goal. if this is a big issue, it's a revolutionary idea and it will take time to pass. here's what it does, it's an option. you don't have to. the benefit is comparable to
what you get in the private sector in terms of paid family leave for the birth of a child. number three, the concept is this. if you choose to dictate families, at least six weeks, up to 12 weeks. you can decide some of your retirement benefits from your money and social security, you can advance and take now instead of later. a portion of it. it's a choice, an option you have. for the 85 percent of americans that today have no options at all other than to skip paychecks. how many people can afford to skip one paycheck not to mention 4-6 after the birth of a child? >>chris: senator marco rubio, thank you point please come back. up next, we bring in our sunday group to discuss president trump's escalating attacks on the media. the faceup with reporters gets even more heated. would you like to ask the panel about the presidents threat to shut down the government before the midterm elections over funding for hi
>> it would be bad politics for the republican party to shut the government down. we'd get blamed. >>chris: senator lindsey graham warning president trump not to shut the government down over immigration issues ahead of the midterms. it's time now for oursunday group. karl rove , philippe reines, susan page and jason riley. which heading down the government over the wall and immigration issues help or hurt republicans in the midterms? >> her to the republicans. they've they are seen of having control of the government. regardless of how the president describes the culprits as being the democrats, it will hurt the republicans. the presidents approval is 46-51 and the latest fox poll. 43-55 on immigration. >> so don't push immigration?
>> don't shut down the government. if you want to shut down the government, shut it down over the economy but people don't believe particularly when it comes to the wall that it's the right thing. the wall is the weakest border security. you noticed he stopped talking about the wall and border security. even inside the white house, the wall is not as popular as border security. >>chris: we asked you for questions and on this issue of apollo'spossible shutdown got this question. if potus shuts down the government, how will he get his supreme court pick confirmed and how will the republicans get blamed? >> as my insider knowledge of the gop, i think this is another example of the president putting a bigger problem to his own party than the democrats who most of the time that are just bystanders.
i don't know what he gets out of it but i don't think he cares. i don't think he really cares what happens in november. >> of course he does. he knows what happens to his agenda if he loses the house. >> i think he knows he gets to run against the house in 2020. i don't think he worries about impeachment. as much as his colleagues in congress to. >>chris: i'm going to switch subjects in terms of the president bashing of the media. i know it's always all about us but it seemed to hit critical mass this week.you just heard my conversation with ambassador bolton in which the president says media can cause wars, they are sick. we had this conversation about ivanka trump who talked about the fake media and president trump hours later. >> i have sensitivity around
why people have concerns and gripes, especially when they feel targeted. i do not feel the media is the enemy of the people. >> they can make anything bad because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. >>chris: susan, there was also that moment in the white house briefing room where cnn reporter jim acosta, some will say he was grandstanding. i kind of agree with that but he challenged sarah sanders, the spokeswoman to declare that the press are not the enemy of the people and she refused. >> i care more about what the president says then the press secretary. mr. bolton in your interview setting adversarial with white house is common. haven't covered six white houses, that is true.
but the rhetoric the president is using, enemy of the people, this is a phrase from stalin. it is chilling and unprecedented in modern times. it does not recognize the world that the founders sought for a free and vigorous press to hold officials accountable and to be the friend of the american people. i think it's enormously serious. >>chris: jason, let me ask you a question. you've had un officials in charge of freedom of expression around the world this week say these kind of comments, again, i don't think were talking about criticism of the media. we are talking about fake news, starting wars, enemy of the people, that it undermines the role of the free press around the world to hold governments accountable.>> ivanka trump is right. the press is not the enemy of the people and you are right that this rhetoric coming out
of the white house is unprecedented. but so is some of the behavior of the media these days. media is supposed to be covering this white house objectively and is behaving much more like activists than on objective journalists. this too i think has reached a lumpy when that happens i believe the press deserves to be called out. the pressure not be the story. the story should be making sure the voters are informed and too often these days, they are making themselves the story. >>chris: the president makes them the story. >> that is due to this relationship that i think all administration's have. but the press often takes the bait. this is what we end up talking about. the press loves talking about the press.>> as a reporter, i do not love talking about the press. i think what is happening, there are certainly things to criticize about the press.
but i think with the president is doing is undermining faith in the institutions that stand to challenge him. >>chris: let me bring in karl, because as a white house officials, you felt you were probably unfairly targeted by the press. where is the line between what we do wrong and accurate reporting and what the president is doing right now? >> any white house has the right to be specific in criticizing that coverage. i think the administration ought to say we think this is what's wrong. but the ferocity of these generalized slurs if you will against the press and the frequency is disturbing to me. i watched the speech.
i lost track, about 18-19 times that the presidentwent after the press. every time he did, that crowd toward its approval . but that crowd represents the hard-core base. this does not help him with his bigger problem. 28 percent strongly approved. those with people strongly screaming when he said enemy of the people but 41 percent strongly disapprove. he is enraging the opposition while reinforcing a smaller base . >>chris: you were talking up before about losing the midterms with - - [indiscernible] >> it's working for him but that doesn't mean it's right. it's a part of a war on the truth. i've been on the other side of this, you know that and susan probably knows that. >>chris: you worked for hillary clinton. >> the media is not always perfect but you get on the phone and you talk about it. my beef now is the media has to
accept that this is not normal behavior. they have to realize they are in combat they have to start acting differently. stop broadcasting the daily press briefings live, get rid of the soap opera aspect. the grandstanding. they have to use the word lie when he lies, etc. >>chris: well, i disagree with that. when we come back, the battle over 3d printed guns. cody wilson wants americans to have the information to make
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making the information available to everyone on the internet. mr. wilson, director of defense distributed joins us from austin, texas. simple question, why on earth do you think putting these blueprints for plastic guns online is a good idea? >> hi chris. i put the blueprints for all types of guns, all technical plans, all data past and present. i put them all online and that's the right i have secured. it's not that i'm somehow only fascinated by the idea of a printable gun.it was a mere demonstration of a much wider capability. firearms which is in no way precluded by current law. >>chris: as i understand it, you say this is your first amendment right. information you're putting it online, not what happens after people receive that information. i'll have to tell you that the first amendment is not an absolute right. you're not allowed to cry fire
in a crowded theater. courts have exercised fire restraint to stop people from publishing movements in the time of war. it's not an absolute right. >> chris, i'd expect you to not propagate that ignorance. fire in a crowded theater has not been law for over 40 years. that case was replaced with the standard is even the most inflammatory speech is protected by the first amendment unless it produces eminently unlawful action or is likely to produce imminent harm. these are not the standards. we need to correct people's ignorance. the first amendment without question protects this kind of data. lawfully produced, it's got a cognizant government authority. it's directly related to another protected right which is the second amendment. speech about another amendment is even more protected. >>chris: first of all, we don't know whether it's protected because a judge issued a temporary restraining order and there will be a court hearing
about this this week. i know you will be pursuing this. you talk about speech that incisor creates the opportunity for illegal action, here's the problem with putting these blueprints about plastic guns on the internet. it allows people to create, to make guns that are untraceable. there's no serial number. it allows them to make guns that are undetectable. they can get through a metal detector. it also allows people who would be prohibited from having guns, whether it's someone with a mental illness, a felon, domestic abuse or even a terrorist. it allows them to make guns. take a look at democratic senator ed markey. >> these downloadable firearms are available even to those who could not pass a background check. it's the ultimate gun loophole. >>chris: the nra has supported the law that makes these guns undetectable firearms, illegal.
for 30 years. >> i don't think ited markey kn you could legally make a gun until last week. this is their discovery that it's been legal to make a gun for yourself.i'm sorry you just found that out. okay, but you should have made a law. make it illegal to make guns in this country. >>chris: they did make an undetectable firearms act that passed 30 years ago. >> it's legal to make a gun if you include a requisite amount of metal. that's why i'm not in jail. my principal guns have the required amount of metal. maybe even that type of law ultimately couldn't survive second amendment scrutiny but i'm not here to argue for or against our security norms. i'm arguing that what i want in court was the right, not just singularly but all americans have the right to share data
for making firearms on the internet. this is not controversial. the progressive case, nuclear plants, these are protected by the first amendment. i'm sorry that people are just waking up to the idea that the first amendment protects scientific inquiry. >>chris: you first put a blueprint online in 2013 and it was downloaded almost 100,000 times before you were stopped by the government. since you put the blueprint again after a settlement with thefederal government online, it was downloaded more than 20,000 times . is the genie already out of the bottle and we are arguing about something that's already happened? lex frankly, that's the case. >> when the attorney general came intowashington they said y honor, he's going to release
this august 1. in one sense i released it three years five years ago. these attorney generals have no standing. the judge can't review the decision the state department made so i'm watching all of these gun files online and when we both know guns are now downloadable and they have been repeatedly demonstrated to be. >>chris: to a certain degree, i think you are saying i'm just making the information available but i'm not responsible for what people do once they get the information. the fact is, there are real-world consequences here. what if somebody takes your information, make the gun and then goes out and kill someone, potentially god forbid kills a member of your family. do you bear any responsibility? would you feel any remorse? >> i credit the question as an honest question as good faith but i believe in the second amendment to the point of, it's
all right and it should be expected there will be social cost for protecting a right. why is the people's right to keep and bear arms on the bill of rights? because we know there are downside and there are consequences to allowing free people to own the means of self-defense. we should expect and have a mature attitude that bad things can happen. >>chris: but the government has made decisions that for the best of society, certain people should be prevented from having guns. it should be easier to trace and to detect. you are going around all of that. >> i disagree. with respect, i disagree. the government has regulated manufacturers of arms but the government has never regulated the production of firearms that you are allowed to own. an american can make a gun and there's no requirement for the serial number on it and i'm sorry that a bunch of politicians woke up to the reality of this just last week
but this is the way it's always been. >>chris: cody wilson, thank you for talking with us. up next, our "power player of the week". the army's art collection puts
rockwell illustrations from world war ii. >>chris: do you ever feel like you're in that warehouse at the end of indiana jones? >> we make that joke all the time. >>chris: we were there to see the status of nazi propaganda. 586 pieces seized during hitler's fall and sent back to the u.s. >> hitler's retreat at - - the luxurious mountain residents. >>chris: the man in charge of the operation, - -, appointed by president roosevelt. >> why was it so important to remove this art from germany postwar? >> they believed the presence of these pieces in german society could be essentially a powder cake that could kick off additional incidents of the nazi rise. >>chris: this painting, in the beginning, was the word.>>it's intentionally titled to mirror the first verse of the book of john in the bible and it very clearly equates adolf hitler with john the baptist. >>chris: and almost godlike figure in his disciples. there's another called the standardbearer. >> it portrays adolf hitler as a medieval night. he's carrying a nazi flag, mounted on a horse and he's prepared to lead his people into battle. >>chris: what is this? >> an american soldier took his rifle and he punched through the eye of hitler as a direct message. >>chris: the army found this in the eagles nest. >> when the nazis held meetings of triumph - - >>chris: a grand hall he used for grand meetings. >> the large-scale partconveys his personal power. >>chris: perhaps most fascinating are these watercolors painted by hitler.
as an inspiring art student and a soldier in world war i, long before his rise to power. >> one of the comments on the early evaluations of his work was that while he was pretty good at depicting buildings and structures, he was not so good at depicting human life. >>chris: the chances are you will never get to see any of these works in person. the army keeps them locked up and its mammoth storage facility. is there concern some of these pieces can be used as a rallying point for neo-nazis in this country? >> that's the heart of the tight control we maintain over the collection. >>chris: it could be potentially dangerous. >> the time i like to use is, powerful. >>chris: the army is building a national museum opening in 2020
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adviser john bolton and marco rubio, a top member of the senate intelligence and foreign relations committee. bolton and marco rubio only on "fox news sunday". then a federal judge blocked a texas activist from putting blueprints online to make plastic on some 3-d printers. cody wilson joins us to explain why he thinks it's a good idea. hours after this - - >> i do not feel the media is the enemy of the people. >>chris: president trump bashes journalists again. >> what ever happened to fair press? what ever happened to honest reporting? they don't report it. they only make up stories. >>chris: we will ask our sunday panel about the trump family divine. all right now on "fox news sunday". hello again from fox news in washington. top national security officials say the threat from russian meddling in the upcoming
midterms is real. president trump keeps calling it a hoax.one of several issues along with north korea and iran where the presidents statements appear at odds with the rest of his administration. in a moment, what talk about this seeming disconnect with the president national security advisor, john bolton. first, let's bring in kristin fisher in columbus, ohio where president trump held another of his highly charged rallies last night. >>reporter: this was president trump's second campaign rally since five of his top national security officials stood side-by-side sounding the alarm that pressure is continuing to try to interfere in our elections. yet, at both rallies, presiden trump has not backed them up . >> we've got to stop meddling and everybody from attacking us. but there were a aa lot.
russia is there, china is they are. >>reporter: once again, president trump reviews placing the blame squarely on russia. but he had no problems charging china. >> china is smart and they know the american farmers love donald trump. they say, what can we do to stop donald trump? >>reporter: the retaliatory tariffs are hitting the presidents key constituencies. prompting a bailout for farmers. - - made clear, he's feeling the heat. >> so much for my brand-new beautiful suit. >>reporter: the president and republicans are also feeling the heat heading into tuesday's special election for ohio's 12th congressional district. it's why president trump came to this district to rally his supporters around - - was locked in a tight race with democrat danny o'connor.>> a vote for danny boy and the democrats is about to let criminals and drugs for into
our country and to let ms-13 run wild in our communities. >>reporter: that is exactly what we can expect more of heading into the midterms. this is president trump third campaign rally this week. that case is only expected to accelerate. >>chris: kristin fisher reporting from columbus, ohio. joining me now is the president's national security advisor, john bolton. welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> glad to be with you. >>chris: let's begin with breaking news, venezuelan president is calling an assassination attempt against him yesterday. let's put up this video. pretty striking. the president speaking at a military event when drums loaded with explosives exploded. you can see security protecting was ballistic blankets and military.
role and unnamed - - in the united states. these are things he's said before. you have to take them for what they're worth. if the government of venezuela has hard information that they want to present that would show a potential violation of u.s. criminal law, we will take a serious look at it. in the meantime, i think what we should really focus on is the corruption and oppression of the regime in venezuela. >>chris: let's turn to the apparent disconnect between what trump administration officials are saying about russian meddling in 2016 and 2018 and what president trump is saying about the here is how dhs secretary nielsen described in the president hours later. >> our democracy itself is in the crosshairs. >> i had a great meeting with putin and we discussed everything. now we are being hindered by the russian hoax.
it's a hoax. >>chris: ambassador, which is it?is it a threat to our democracy or is it a hoax? >> i know there's this narrative in the press that there is a disjunction between the president and the rest of his administration. i got to know eugene mccarthy, the late democratic senator. used to describe the process as a group of birds sitting on a telephone wire. one would fly off and then they'd all fly off. that's what this narrative i think is all about. the president knew exactly what was going to be said at that press briefing on thursday. he's the one who directed it be held. it came as a result of a national security council meeting we held the friday before were the heads of the operating agencies who attended on thursday and others, told the president what we were doing. he thought it was important the american people heard directly from the people responsible for
election security at the federal level. in a nonclassified environment. >>chris: they are saying, this is a clear and present danger, that russia did it in 2016 and are continuing to do it now. you have the secretary of homeland security with her hair on fire think democracy is in the crosshairs and you have president trump think you're being hindered by the russian hoax. that is not the press making that up. anybody who looks at it has got to see it a difference there. >> i think what he's saying about the hoax is the idea that the russians directed control of his campaign or administration, that there were some conspiracy or violation of u.s. line 2016. >>chris: he's handed down an indictment of 12 military intelligence officers of the g are you. >> there's no question that's going on. the hoax is the idea that the trump campaign was a
beneficiary of a concerted effort together with the russians to affect the 2016 election. as to that, there's no evidence publicly. but everybody who participated in the press conference thursday agreed as has the president on several public occasions that the intelligence community assessment of russian meddling in 2016 is valid. >>chris: one of the most powerful ways mr. trump can try to prevent any meddling in the 2018 election is to stand up in public and call out vladimir putin and say, knock it off. i want to go back to helsinki and to the joint summit news conference there. >> i have great confidence in my intelligent people. but, i will tell you that president putin was is cleanly strong and powerful in his denial today. >>chris: i know you say it was the first issue that president trump brought up with putin in
that to everybody's been focusing on. that's who you focused on in your briefing. >> rights. there's no question that russia was the principal violator and their activity this year, puts them in the lead the activity so far at least is down from 2016. but it does not exclude for the potential for others to muddle. and i think the broader issue that i think christopher wray talked about in particular of influence efforts that go beyond the specifics of a particular election. i think that's very troubling too. >>chris: you talk about the media and the idea they all jump off the telephone line. >> not everyone but a lot of them. >>chris: in a much more direct way, the president critiqued the media. iwant to put up the streets. this tweets. this is one of them. the fake news hates me saying
relationship is typical. >>chris: we learned north korea continues to produce plutonium. continues to build new missiles. there are reports that north korea is violating the sanctions by ship to ship transfers. china and russia are stepping up their efforts to ease around the sanctions. at what point does the trump administration say that kim is playing us. there he isn't serious about denuclearization and basically call him on this? >> that point may well, as i've said to you and others before. there's nobody in this administration starry eyed about the prospects of north korea the nuclear rising. i think the president is giving kim jong-un a master class in how to hold the door open for somebody.
if the north koreans can't
they retaliated.now we are talking about 25 percent on $200 billion more in chinese exports and they are threatening tariffs on $60 billion of u.s. products. here's larry kudlow. >> the president is impatient. so yes it to our team, take a look at raising the tariff on them. last 200. take a look. he's impatient. >>chris: how far is president trump prepare to go in his standoff with china and if chinese president xi jinping doesn't blink or back down, how long could this go on? >> i think as larry was in, don't underestimate president trump's resolve. for decades, china has been the principal malefactor trying to use a free trade aspiration. most of the rest the world has to pursue mercantilist goals. it steals intellectual
property. >>chris: how far you prepare to take this? >> far enough to get china to change its behaviorand they need to understand that. >>chris: if they don't ?>> i think the pressure will continue and the president has made that very clear. >>chris: ambassador bolton, always good to talk with you. when we come back, senator marco rubio joins us exclusively to talk about his push to hit russia if they meddle in our midterms as well as his plans for paid family leave. later, should blueprints to make a plastic gun in your own make a plastic gun in your own home be availablsurance that won't replace the full value of your new car? you'd be better off throwing your money right into the harbor. i'm gonna regret that. with liberty mutual new car replacement we'll replace the full value of your car. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ this time, it's his turn. you have 4.3 minutes to yourself.
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off-the-cuff statements about russia, north korea and iran stand in contrast to the rest of his administration and much of the republican party. we want to discuss that with senator marco rubio, a key member of the senate foreign relations and intelligence committee. : two "fox news sunday".>> thank you, thanks for having me back. >>chris: you are trying to get the senate to pass what you call the dieter act which would invoke automatic sanctions against russia or any country that interferes with u.s. elections. is what top intelligence officials at the trump administration send this week. >> russia attempted to interfere with the last election and continue to engage in maligned influence operations to this day. >> it's pervasive, it is ongoing. with the intent to achieve their intent and that is drive
the bill, it's the director of national intelligence, not the president who would certify that interference had taken place. given all the presidents talk about the russia hoax, don't you trust him to call out kremlin meddling? >> i do. especially if it happens in 2018. that's part of the bill we will probably have to rework because we want to pass the bill. we want to create an automatic way for sanctions to kick in. there will probably have to be an additional of a presidential waiver. the dni will play a key role. that's the way we crafted it but the partner i'm working with, we are willing to make reasonable changes that allows us to pass it and that's probably one of those that we've heardpush back on. we wantto do something done and do whatever it takes to pass a
law that will have real sanctions that will you can house pass past the house and senate. >>chris: president trump tweeted this. attorney general jeff sessions should stop this rigged witchhunt right now for it continues to stain our country any further. afterwords, you said special counsel robert mueller should be allowed to finish his work and all of the truth should come out. in pursuit of that truth, should president trump sit down with the special counsel to answer any questions about russian collusion, obstruction of justice and what if he refuses and the special counsel get the subpoena? >> the second question is really for the president lawyers. i'm not in a position to give legal advice to the president. but let me talk about the first part and that is, this is no mystery. he believes strongly, he says he knows for a fact that he did not collude with the russians
the long-term. i think he's more than willing to tear apart the facilities, as he's got newer ones that work better. i believe, he believes, even if he gets rid of some of the new enrichment capability, he already has existing weapons and existing enriched capabilities that he can hide from the world. every time he does one of these productions, he is engendering goodwill internationally which is ultimately his goal. to undermine national support for sanctions by underlining all of these things i'm doing. that's his goal in my opinion and i hope he's wrong. >>chris: it appears to be working. we understand north korea is violating the sanctions by doing ship to ship transfers. we hear that russia is doing business with north korea. they are bringing thousands of more workers into the country who are ineffective slaves to
send money back to the regime. isn't tim succeeding in lowering the temperature. breaking apart the alliance of sanctions and president trump is being played? >> neither one of those two things are new. the laborers to russia has been going on in the ship to ship transfer is the only way to evade. i think we need to be becareful about - - [indiscernible]. the chinese would love for this to be a step-by-step process that drags out. i don't know if the president is being played. i think he's hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.the sanctions remain in place. i think they need to be more cautious about continuing to engage our partners around the world that they are fully aware of what's happening and what isn't happening in north korea point what's real and what isn't real. i will have concerns about anything they've done so far.
>>chris: i want to ask you about one of your other big issues and that is you have introduced legislation to create paid family leave. you take the money that would go to the parents of newborn children from social security payments they would get later on. democrats say the benefit is too small and it shouldn't come out of retirement payments and third, most people take family leave for illnesses. either their own or family members. they don't take it for childbirth. ivanka trump was a big supporter said there's no chance this is going to happen in this congress. >> nothing is going to happen other than the bills that are stacked up and ready to goal. if this is a big issue, it's a revolutionary idea and it will take time to pass. here's what it does, it's an option. you don't have to. the benefit is comparable to
what you get in the private sector in terms of paid family leave for the birth of a child. number three, the concept is this. if you choose to dictate families, at least six weeks, up to 12 weeks. you can decide some of your retirement benefits from your money and social security, you can advance and take now instead of later. a portion of it. it's a choice, an option you have. for the 85 percent of americans that today have no options at all other than to skip paychecks. how many people can afford to skip one paycheck not to mention 4-6 after the birth of a child? >>chris: senator marco rubio, thank you point please come back. up next, we bring in our sunday group to discuss president trump's escalating attacks on the media. the faceup with reporters gets even more heated. would you like to ask the panel about the presidents threat to shut down the government before the midterm elections over the midterm elections over funding for hi the world is full of different hair. that's why pantene
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need border security. >> it would be bad politics for the republican party to shut the government down. we'd get blamed. >>chris: senator lindsey graham warning president trump not to shut the government down over immigration issues ahead of the midterms. it's time now for oursunday group. karl rove , philippe reines, susan page and jason riley. which heading down the government over the wall and immigration issues help or hurt republicans in the midterms? >> her to the republicans. they've they are seen of having control of the government. regardless of how the president describes the culprits as being the democrats, it will hurt the republicans. the presidents approval is 46-51 and the latest fox poll. 43-55 on immigration. >> so don't push immigration?
>> don't shut down the government. if you want to shut down the government, shut it down over the economy but people don't believe particularly when it comes to the wall that it's the right thing. the wall is the weakest border security. you noticed he stopped talking about the wall and border security. even inside the white house, the wall is not as popular as border security. >>chris: we asked you for questions and on this issue of apollo'spossible shutdown got this question. if potus shuts down the government, how will he get his supreme court pick confirmed and how will the republicans get blamed? >> as my insider knowledge of the gop, i think this is another example of the president putting a bigger problem to his own party than the democrats who most of the time that are just bystanders.
i don't know what he gets out of it but i don't think he cares. i don't think he really cares what happens in november. >> of course he does. he knows what happens to his agenda if he loses the house. >> i think he knows he gets to run against the house in 2020. i don't think he worries about impeachment. as much as his colleagues in congress to. >>chris: i'm going to switch subjects in terms of the president bashing of the media. i know it's always all about us but it seemed to hit critical mass this week.you just heard my conversation with ambassador bolton in which the president says media can cause wars, they are sick. we had this conversation about ivanka trump who talked about the fake media and president
trump hours later. >> i have sensitivity around why people have concerns and gripes, especially when they feel targeted. i do not feel the media is the enemy of the people. >> they can make anything bad because they are the fake, fake, disgusting news. >>chris: susan, there was also that moment in the white house briefing room where cnn reporter jim acosta, some will say he was grandstanding. i kind of agree with that but he challenged sarah sanders, the spokeswoman to declare that the press are not the enemy of the people and she refused. >> i care more about what the president says then the press secretary. mr. bolton in your interview setting adversarial with white house is common. haven't covered six white houses, that is true.
but the rhetoric the president is using, enemy of the people, this is a phrase from stalin. it is chilling and unprecedented in modern times. it does not recognize the world that the founders sought for a free and vigorous press to hold officials accountable and to be the friend of the american people. i think it's enormously serious. >>chris: jason, let me ask you a question. you've had un officials in charge of freedom of expression around the world this week say these kind of comments, again, i don't think were talking about criticism of the media. we are talking about fake news, starting wars, enemy of the people, that it undermines the role of the free press around the world to hold governments accountable.>> ivanka trump is right. the press is not the enemy of the people and you are right
that this rhetoric coming out of the white house is unprecedented. but so is some of the behavior of the media these days. media is supposed to be covering this white house objectively and is behaving much more like activists than on objective journalists. this too i think has reached a lumpy when that happens i believe the press deserves to be called out. the pressure not be the story. the story should be making sure the voters are informed and too often these days, they are making themselves the story. >>chris: the president makes them the story. >> that is due to this relationship that i think all administration's have. but the press often takes the bait. this is what we end up talking about. the press loves talking about the press.>> as a reporter, i do not love talking about the press. i think what is happening, there are certainly things to
criticize about the press. but i think with the president is doing is undermining faith in the institutions that stand to challenge him. >>chris: let me bring in karl, because as a white house officials, you felt you were probably unfairly targeted by the press. where is the line between what we do wrong and accurate reporting and what the president is doing right now? >> any white house has the right to be specific in criticizing that coverage. i think the administration ought to say we think this is what's wrong. but the ferocity of these generalized slurs if you will against the press and the frequency is disturbing to me.
i watched the speech. i lost track, about 18-19 times that the presidentwent after the press. every time he did, that crowd toward its approval . but that crowd represents the hard-core base. this does not help him with his bigger problem. 28 percent strongly approved. those with people strongly screaming when he said enemy of the people but 41 percent strongly disapprove. he is enraging the opposition while reinforcing a smaller base . >>chris: you were talking up before about losing the midterms with - - [indiscernible] >> it's working for him but that doesn't mean it's right. it's a part of a war on the truth. i've been on the other side of this, you know that and susan probably knows that. >>chris: you worked for hillary clinton. >> the media is not always perfect but you get on the phone and you talk about it.
my beef now is the media has to accept that this is not normal behavior. they have to realize they are in combat they have to start acting differently. stop broadcasting the daily press briefings live, get rid of the soap opera aspect. the grandstanding. they have to use the word lie when he lies, etc. >>chris: well, i disagree with that. when we come back, the battle over 3d printed guns. cody wilson wants americans to have the information to make get your groove on with one a day 50+. ♪ get ready for the wild life ♪ complete multivitamins with key nutrients that address 6 concerns of aging, including heart health, supported by b-vitamins. your one a day is showing. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills don't. and all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. flonase sensimist.
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center of a legal battle over making the information available to everyone on the internet. mr. wilson, director of defense distributed joins us from austin, texas. simple question, why on earth do you think putting these blueprints for plastic guns online is a good idea? >> hi chris. i put the blueprints for all types of guns, all technical plans, all data past and present. i put them all online and that's the right i have secured. it's not that i'm somehow only fascinated by the idea of a printable gun.it was a mere demonstration of a much wider capability. firearms which is in no way precluded by current law. >>chris: as i understand it, you say this is your first amendment right. information you're putting it online, not what happens after people receive that information. i'll have to tell you that the first amendment is not an
absolute right. you're not allowed to cry fire in a crowded theater. courts have exercised fire restraint to stop people from publishing movements in the time of war. it's not an absolute right. >> chris, i'd expect you to not propagate that ignorance. fire in a crowded theater has not been law for over 40 years. that case was replaced with the standard is even the most inflammatory speech is protected by the first amendment unless it produces eminently unlawful action or is likely to produce imminent harm. these are not the standards. we need to correct people's ignorance. the first amendment without question protects this kind of data. lawfully produced, it's got a cognizant government authority. it's directly related to another protected right which is the second amendment. speech about another amendment is even more protected. >>chris: first of all, we don't know whether it's protected because a judge issued a temporary restraining order and
there will be a court hearing about this this week. i know you will be pursuing this. you talk about speech that incisor creates the opportunity for illegal action, here's the problem with putting these blueprints about plastic guns on the internet. it allows people to create, to make guns that are untraceable. there's no serial number. it allows them to make guns that are undetectable. they can get through a metal detector. it also allows people who would be prohibited from having guns, whether it's someone with a mental illness, a felon, domestic abuse or even a terrorist. it allows them to make guns. take a look at democratic senator ed markey. >> these downloadable firearms are available even to those who could not pass a background check. it's the ultimate gun loophole. >>chris: the nra has supported the law that makes these guns undetectable firearms, illegal.
for 30 years. >> i don't think ited markey kn you could legally make a gun until last week. this is their discovery that it's been legal to make a gun for yourself.i'm sorry you just found that out. okay, but you should have made a law. make it illegal to make guns in this country. >>chris: they did make an undetectable firearms act that passed 30 years ago. >> it's legal to make a gun if you include a requisite amount of metal. that's why i'm not in jail. my principal guns have the required amount of metal. maybe even that type of law ultimately couldn't survive second amendment scrutiny but i'm not here to argue for or against our security norms. i'm arguing that what i want in court was the right, not just
singularly but all americans have the right to share data for making firearms on the internet. this is not controversial. the progressive case, nuclear plants, these are protected by the first amendment. i'm sorry that people are just waking up to the idea that the first amendment protects scientific inquiry. >>chris: you first put a blueprint online in 2013 and it was downloaded almost 100,000 times before you were stopped by the government. since you put the blueprint again after a settlement with thefederal government online, it was downloaded more than 20,000 times . is the genie already out of the bottle and we are arguing about something that's already happened? lex frankly, that's the case. >> when the attorney general came intowashington they said y
honor, he's going to release this august 1. in one sense i released it three years five years ago. these attorney generals have no standing. the judge can't review the decision the state department made so i'm watching all of these gun files online and when we both know guns are now downloadable and they have been repeatedly demonstrated to be. >>chris: to a certain degree, i think you are saying i'm just making the information available but i'm not responsible for what people do once they get the information. the fact is, there are real-world consequences here. what if somebody takes your information, make the gun and then goes out and kill someone, potentially god forbid kills a member of your family. do you bear any responsibility? would you feel any remorse? >> i credit the question as an honest question as good faith but i believe in the second
amendment to the point of, it's all right and it should be expected there will be social cost for protecting a right. why is the people's right to keep and bear arms on the bill of rights? because we know there are downside and there are consequences to allowing free people to own the means of self-defense. we should expect and have a mature attitude that bad things can happen. >>chris: but the government has made decisions that for the best of society, certain people should be prevented from having guns. it should be easier to trace and to detect. you are going around all of that. >> i disagree. with respect, i disagree. the government has regulated manufacturers of arms but the government has never regulated the production of firearms that you are allowed to own. an american can make a gun and there's no requirement for the serial number on it and i'm sorry that a bunch of politicians woke up to the
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rockwell illustrations from world war ii. >>chris: do you ever feel like you're in that warehouse at the end of indiana jones? >> we make that joke all the time. >>chris: we were there to see the status of nazi propaganda. 586 pieces seized during hitler's fall and sent back to the u.s. >> hitler's retreat at - - the luxurious mountain residents. >>chris: the man in charge of the operation, - -, appointed by president roosevelt. >> why was it so important to remove this art from germany postwar? >> they believed the presence of these pieces in german society could be essentially a powder cake that could kick off additional incidents of the nazi rise. >>chris: this painting, in the beginning, was the word.>>it's intentionally titled to mirror the first verse of the book of john in the bible and it very clearly equates adolf hitler with john the baptist. >>chris: and almost godlike figure in his disciples. there's another called the standardbearer. >> it portrays adolf hitler as a medieval night. he's carrying a nazi flag, mounted on a horse and he's prepared to lead his people into battle. >>chris: what is this? >> an american soldier took his rifle and he punched through the eye of hitler as a direct message. >>chris: the army found this in the eagles nest. >> when the nazis held meetings of triumph - - >>chris: a grand hall he used for grand meetings. >> the large-scale partconveys his personal power. >>chris: perhaps most fascinating are these watercolors painted by hitler.
as an inspiring art student and a soldier in world war i, long before his rise to power. >> one of the comments on the early evaluations of his work was that while he was pretty good at depicting buildings and structures, he was not so good at depicting human life. >>chris: the chances are you will never get to see any of these works in person. the army keeps them locked up and its mammoth storage facility. is there concern some of these pieces can be used as a rallying point for neo-nazis in this country? >> that's the heart of the tight control we maintain over the collection. >>chris: it could be potentially dangerous. >> the time i like to use is, powerful. >>chris: the army is building a national museum opening in 2020
congratulations. that is how fox reports this sunday, september 9. i am jon scott, thank you for joining us. fox news sunday is coming up next. >> i am chris wallace. president trump calls on the justice department to investigate who wrote that essay in the new york times describing resistance inside his administration. >> for the sake of our national security, the new york times should publish his name at once the one we will discuss the one-two punch of the anonymous call him. >> should all top officials take a lie detector test and would you agree to take one? and reports of white house disarray in bob woodward's new book.what does it mean for
the trump administration? we will ask the vice president of the united states, mike pence. brett kavanaugh showdown with democrats at his supreme court nominee hearing. >> you are asking for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land. >>chris: we will ask chris coons if his party can block kavanaugh. barack obama steps back into the political arena and unloads on president trump. >> it did not start with donald trump it is a symptom. not the cause.he's capitalizing on resentments that politicians have been fanning for years. >> i watched it but i fell asleep. >>chris: we will ask our sunday panel how areva trump-obama face-off will shape the midterm election. hello again from fox news in washington.
any concerns president trump has had aboutleaks and disloyal inside his administration one were confirmed by the anonymous column in the new york times in bob woodward's new book. top officials openly admit they work against presidential directives they consider dangerous.add to that barack obama back in the political spotlight. hammering president trump in the run-up to the midterm elections. on saturday, vice president pence invited us to his residence on embassy grow in washington to push back against stories of an administration in disarray. mr. vice president, welcome back to "fox news sunday". >> thank you chris. >>chris: let's start with barack obama's return to the campaign trail accusing president trump a practice in the politics of fear and resentment. your reaction. >> it was very disappointing to see president obama break with tradition of former presidents and become so political, but
allowed the same tired arguments that he and liberals have made over the last eight years. the truth is, the american people in 2016 rejected the policy and direction of barack obama when they elected president trump. we inherited an economy that is growing a little bit more than one percent. in the last quarter, our economy is growing at 4.2 percent. unemployment at a 50 year low. to have president obama come out and tell his policies that resulted in less than two percent growth and saw tax increases, obamacare, regulation and the doubling of the national debts. i think actions like the
president calling on the attorney general, jeff sessions, to investigate who wrote that anonymous article in the new york times. >> it cannot be a partisan issue to say that we do not pressure the attorney general or the fbi to use the criminal justice system as a cudgel to punish our political opponents . >>chris: what are the national security grounds to investigate that article? what law did the writer break? >> we will find out if there was criminalactivity involved . >>chris: there was no classified information. >> we will see. i think the president's concern is that this individual may have responsibilities in the area of national security. if they've now published an anonymous editorial think they are misrepresenting themselves and trying to frustrate and subvert the agenda the president was elected to advance, that's an important issue. >>chris: political disloyalty is troubling, it's not illegal.
>> there's another part of it though. every senior official in any administration takes an oath to the constitution. the constitution of the united states, and that's all the power and the president united states. to have an individual who took that oath literally say they work every day to frustrate the president advancing the agenda he was elected to advance, is undemocratic but it's not just deceitful, but it's really an assault on our democracy. that person to do the honorable thing. step forward and resign. >>chris: want to get into the question whether they're trying to thwart the will of the president in a moment. president obama mentioned this as well. the tweet earlier this week basically chastising, rebuking, attorney general sessions for bringing the prosecution on
charges of corruption against two gop house members. the president tweeted, to very popular republican congressmen were brought to a well-publicized charge, just ahead of the midterms but the jeff sessions justice department, two easy wins now in doubt because there's not enough time. good job, jeff. the president is saying play politics. protect members of congress, even if they've committed acts of corruption before the election. >> i don't think that's what the president was sang at all. the department of justice has long-standing guidelines through successive administrations that says whenever possible, the justice department should avoid taking actions that may impact an election. the president was referring to that. >>chris: these are two people, one supposedly committing insider trading and another one
living off of campaign funds. are you saying they should be protected because we are close to them midterm? >> they are serious allegations and they ought to be pursued. the president was referring to the long-standing tradition to avoid unnecessarily impacting election outcomes and perhaps, preventing other men and women from stepping forward and filling those slots in the future. but to look, i think one of the virtues of this president, one of the reasons we've been so successful over the last 18 months is because he speaks directly to the american people. you don't have to wonder what he's thinking on any given morning because he tells the american people what's on his mind. >>chris: just because he can doesn't mean it's not troubling. he says two easy wins in doubt because there's not enough time, good job jeff. should the attorney general be worried about that? >> this is a president that was elected by speaking directly to the american people. being candid with the american people. and expressing what he's enthusiastic about, what he's
frustrated about and the american people understand that. >>chris: this gets to the theme of both the anonymous article and also bob woodward's book that some officials would then, this administration within this white house feel they have to act in effect as guardrails to protect against some of the president's more impulsive actions. case in point, first story in woodward's book. september 2017, gary cohn walks into the oval office and sees a letter on the president's desk that would blow up the korean, south korean free-trade deal and jeopardize one of our most important alliances. he takes it away so the president will sign it. you have any doubt that happened?>> i have every doubt that that happened. i really do. >>chris: why? >> the president renegotiated the agreement in a way that put
american workers first. >>chris: if i may just - - if i may stay on this point. bob woodward didn't just quote somebody. he has the document. this is the letter he took off the president's desk, marked september 2017. in which the president would have terminated the south korean trade deal. this isn't just talk, he's got the goods here. >> this is a president up with people around the table and around the desk in the oval office that bring him all of the options. that put on the table everything he could be doing. he invites a vigorous debate. around the desk and then he makes the decision. that's how it really does work. i have to tell you, this entire narrative i get from what i've read about the book that came out and the narrative and the editorial is totally foreign to me. >>chris: but it did happen sir.
>> i spend four hours a day with the president when i'm in washington d.c. every day. what i see is a tough leader, a demanding leader. someone that gets all the options on the table but he makes the decisions. and that's why we've made the progress we've made. >>chris: here's what anonymous sees. he writes, that is why many trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while forwarding president trump's misguided impulses until he is out of office. woodward describes what he called a nervous breakdown inside the trump administration. >> absolutely absurd. i have to be honest with you, sometimes i watch a little tv in the morning. and then i go to the white house and i feel like i'm in a parallel universe i walked into a white house where there is a president behind the desk.
he's in command. is constantly driving forward on delivering on the promises we made to the american people. and then i go home and see cable tv talking about disarray in the white house. it's just not my experience. i tell people, look at the results. look at the passage of historic tax cuts for businesses and individuals in the way jobs are coming back and investment is coming back. the renegotiation of trade deals. our allies contributing to our common defense. all of that is happening because we have a president of almost boundless energy who comes in every day, regardless of what's happening in the washington media culture and says, what are we doing today to deliver for the american people?i think that's why i see such enthusiasm as i travel across the country. and that's why i believe the american people will vote to reelect the public majorities in the house and senate this fall. >>chris: do you think you know
who anonymous is? >> i don't know but i do know they should resign.and leave this administration. >>chris: should all top officials take a lie detector test and would you agree to take one? >> i would agree to take in a heartbeat. and would submit to any review the administration wanted to do. >>chris: do you think the administration should do that? >> that would be a decision for thepresident . the honorable thing to do here is for this individual to recognize that they are, they are literally violating an old. if they are that senior administration official, they are violating an oath. not to the president, but to the constitution. >>chris: treason? >> it's un-american. i think that's why you've seen republicans and democrats condemn this. the american people vote for president. they fully expect the president to be able to surround himself
with men and women who will work with them in advancing their agenda. to have someone who literally celebrates coming in every day to frustrate the agenda that the president and i were elected to advance, it really is an assault on our democracy and it should be universally condemned. >>chris: one of the more unusual words in the essay is lodestar. which it turns out people have looked, is a word you have used many times. >> sure. >> must again be our lodestar. with vigilance and - - as our lodestar. >>chris: do you think someone purposely put that in the essay to set you up? >> i wouldn't know. i wouldn't know. i really do believe that whether it's the book, the anonymous editorial, president obama's speech this week. it's on effort to distract attention to reelect this
judge just like president trump promised to appoint. someone with profound intellect, judicial philosophy, to interpret the laws as written and the constitution as written.but they also saw and what at times was a circus. people shouting behind him. histrionics among democratic members. you saw a judge with the temperament to make it through those 12 hour hearings with such dignity. we have every confidence that before the supreme court convenes in october, judge brett kavanaugh will be justice brett kavanaugh. >>chris: finally, syria. the u.s. has warned syria, russia and iran not to launch a final assault on more than 3 million people. they indicate they intend to go ahead. will the u.s. intervene militarily to preventasian humanitarian catastrophe there? >> we're watching it closely and we've made it clear to the
regime in syria, to russia and iran that the united states and our allies will not tolerate the use of chemical weapons against civilians. >>chris: let's say it's conventional weapons. are we going to let hundreds of thousands of people to die there? >> we all know what happened in aleppo. we're watching it very closely. what's different with president trump from president obama, this president drew a red line and enforced it on chemical weapons. president obama drew a red line and said you can't use chemical weapons and then allowed assad to go forward and victimize countless civilians. >>chris: but sir, dead is dead. i take your point about chemical weapons. >> want to make it very clear. united states of america and our allies will take swift and decisive action against any use of chemical weapons in the
province. beyond that, i will tell you we're watching very carefully as resources are being marshaled. along the border of the id- - providence and i'm confident, it will be a decision by the president but i'm confident we will billy monitoring that carefully to ensure we don't see another humanitarian catastrophe like we did before. >>chris: mr. vice president, thank you sir. >> thank you chris. >>chris: even as the vice president and i were speaking, syrian and russian warplanes bombed the southern edge of the providence. when we come back, we will hear from democratic senator chris coons. what about administration officials working to undercut their own president? will barack obama help or hurt democrats in november? and do democrats do anything to and do democrats do anything to slow down brett kavanaugh's you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from any one else. why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms,
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thought the critic within the administration who wrote the anonymous op-ed should resign. i agree with that position. i think the honorable thing is to resign and go public with the authors concerns about the president's fitness to serve. >>chris: what about just the fact that between the anonymous essay and the woodward book, you have so many top officials saying they feel they have to act as a kind of guardrail again some of president trump's impulsive actions? >> that does raise a concern i have also made the focus of my questioning of judge kavanaugh bid i focus on ways in which judge kavanaugh has written and spoken and issued decisions that suggest is a very broad view of presidential power. given our current context, that could lead to a shield for president trump from accountability by the special counsel's investigation.
that something i try to make the focus of my questioning of judge kavanaugh. i think that all to be a concern for everybody watching. because whether it's this administration or a future one, all of us have an interest in the rule of law and in a president who is not above the law. >>chris: i want to double down on that because i want to ask you about some comments by the president this week and i'm asking you as member as the senate judiciary committee. the president as i pointed out to vice president pence, chastise attorney general sessions for the prosecution of two republican congressmen so close to the midterm election. and then there also was this comment from the president about investigating who wrote the anonymous article. >> i would think jeff should be investigating the author of that piece. i really believe it's national security. >>chris: question senator, is there any legal basis on the
question of national security for criminal investigation of who wrote that op-ed in the new york times. >> not that i'm aware of that i think you asked the vice president, what's the basis in law for investigating who wrote this editorial? the real issue across all of these concerns is that we have a president who in his tweets and in his statements and speeches suggests he thinks the department of justice should act more like the and health lawyer department or legal department to the trump organization. rather than what they are. the independent agency charged with defending our constitution. the independence of the department of justice and its prosecutorial decisions from presidential or political interference is one of the bedrock of our democracy. the ways in which president trump continues to harass and tweet against attorney general sessions as you just cited, this last week, criticizing him for the investigation and the indictment of two close allies of the president should be very troubling to all of us.
and there have been comments from senators, this is a troubling and inappropriate break with traditional norms by president trump. >>chris: but senator, let's look at the larger picture of this question we saw this week from the book, from the essay, about resistance to the president inside his own administration. donald trump is the duly elected president of the united states. no one voted for gary cohn. no one voted for defense secretary matus and yet there are stories that both of them ignoring, or in the case of gary cohn, taking a letter of the present could have signed off his desk. who are they to thwart the will of the duly elected president? >> that's right. it does raise serious concerns. every presidential administration has vigorous debates, disagreements on
policy, priorities. but this is a different sort of thing. these are folks that take direct action and to prevent the president from carrying out his worst instincts or decisions. that should raise concerns particularly given the anonymous editorial in the new york times. i will remind you the writer of that editorial makes it clear he supports the president's policy agenda. he supports tax cuts and deregulation building the military and he self describes as not part of the deep state but the steady-state. someone who is trying to keep this president on course and delivering on his policy agenda. but it does as you say, raise troubling concerns if we have a president so material, so unable to stick to a decision within one day the his own senior aides thinkthey're calle upon as folks web sworn to uphold the constitution to prevent the president from carrying out some of his worst decisions.
this really does concern me. >>chris: i want to move to another development is and that is that former president obama returned to the campaign trail and took the opportunity to blister president trump. here's just one example. >> it did not start with donald trump.he is a symptom, not the cause. [applause] is just capitalizing on resentments that politicians have been fanning for years. >>chris: senator, is that smart politics for the november election, there is no question that barack obama is popular with and will fire up the democratic base. but isn't there a risk he will fire up the republican base? >> my hope is that this election will be about the real needs and concerns of average americans in the districts and states across the country that will determine the future of our country. i think president obama respected long-standing norms and how he handled the
transition of power. i think he conducted himself graciously in the inauguration of president trump and he has stayed on the sidelines for 18 months. from what i heard of president obama's speech, his core message was that we need to do a better job of listening to each other. respecting each other and honoring our institutions and traditions. i think former president obama, because of the ways in which president trump over the last 18 months has challenged or broken some of our long-standing traditions about respect for the rule of law, the independence of the judiciary, the independent media, he felt compelled to speak out at this point. >>chris: let's turn to your day job to the kavanaugh hearings. some of your democratic colleagues on the judiciary committee released documents that the committee deemed confidential and no one was more dramatic about it then your democratic colleague,
senator cory booker. take a look. >> i did willingly violate the chairs rule on the committee confidential process. i take full possibility for violating that, sir. this is the closest i will probably have in my life too, i am spartacus moment. >>chris: but cory booker new and you knew when he made such a big fuss about releasing those documents in fact, the judiciary committee had already cleared those documents for release. wasn't this just ablatant start? stunt? >> have to be careful what i say because i'm the vice-chairman of the ethics committee. i can't in that role, and on anything that may come before the committee. this is the dispute we had about documents. i do think this was unprecedented process in which significant amount, an overwhelming majority of documents relevant to judge kavanaugh's service were
blocked from review by the committee. there was a strong disagreement between the majority andthe minority . overall i agree with that concern. >>chris: it's not up to individual senators, otherwise it's chaos. can individual senators say i'm not playing by those rules? >> i really can't comment to whether or not this was a break of the rules of the committee. >>chris: ijust have to ask you because you brought this up, is this a matter the ethics committee is considering? cory booker's behavior? >> i can't comment on that chris . >>chris: why not? >> the rules of the ethics committee prevent any member from commenting on whether a matter is before the committee or not. >>chris: so you cannot deny this issue of what he did in releasing these documents is not before the company? >> i can't comment on that.
>>chris: okay. final question and that is a general one about the kavanaugh nomination. does the president deserve difference from the senate when he appoints someone to the supreme court who is clearly within the judicial mainstream. here are the four current justices appointed by democratic presidents. ginsburg got 96 votes. breyer 87. sotomayor, 68. kagan, 63. all were clearly qualified and you went to law school with brett kavanaugh and you both clerked in the same courthouse in delaware. i can understand you don't like some of his opinions but isn't he clearly qualified and within the judicial mainstream? >> well chris, as i said in the hearing. i've known judge kavanaugh for
30 years and i know him to be an intelligent, decent and thoughtful person. good father and neighbor. we've heard about what a good high school basketball coaching is and how he volunteers at a homeless shelter with his parish. all of those are admirable qualities. i am concerned that he is well outside the main judicial mainstream. a decision he rendered just this year, he refused to follow settled precedent and made it clear his views on executive power would lead to a dangerous rewriting of the core policies, the core constitutional traditions and decisions of the cord around presidential power. i will take advantage of the opportunity today to send questions for the record to judge kavanaugh. i will look over his writings, his speeches. in the time i was able to spend over four days with judge kavanaugh and other witnesses in front of the committee, i remain gravely concerned that he's not inside the mainstream on several really important precedents.
that would have a real impact on individual rights and liberties of americans and on presidential power. i think americans of all parties, particularly given our current context, should be concerned about judge kavanaugh's decisions on presidential power. >>chris: senator, thank you and thank you for your time and we will follow your committee's vote on the nomination scheduled for 11 days from now. up next, we will bring in our when my hot water heater failed,
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>>chris: president trump at a campaign rally criticizing the anonymous senior official that wrote that new york times op-ed as a danger to the nation's security. it's time for our sunday group. [reporter question inaudible] from townhall.com. columnist for the hill, juan williams. liz maralantes and josh holmes. katie, where do you come down on the revelations both from the anonymous essay and bob woodward's book that there's resistance inside the administration, people acting to prevent the presidentsmost i actions. >> clearly, the tickets damaging at all. people have looked at the story and said it's more intrigue.
if someone's not willing to put their name on it, we won't be concerned with what they have to say. inside the white house, it is a huge distraction. when it comes to what this new york times op-ed said, they said they were trying to thwart the presidents worst instincts. define what that is. based on my conversations with white house officials and president trump himself, he likes to listen and invites debates from advisors and tends to make his own decision. are his worst instincts something that these advisers disagree with? define what that actually means. when it comes to the damage that's been done, politically, i don't think it will have an impact but inside the one house, certainly all of the suspicion. looking over their shoulder. officers and agencies coming out with their own our beds thing it wasn't me certainly creates a hostile working environment that is not contingent to moving the president's agenda forward. >>chris: juan, is bob woodward right? is this administration suffering a nervous breakdown? >> a nervous breakdown but i'm a journalist like woodward so here's what i see. i see a white house that cancels meetings in a flailing
manner and then convenes to try to find this anonymous source within the white house. aca president the issues a totally inappropriate call to the department of justice to somehow go after finding this anonymous person and i guess prosecuting them on the bases, and this is even stranger, a national security violation simply for criticizing the president. that's totally inappropriate and wrong. i don't know what's going on in the presidents head. >>chris: what about what katie was talking about, you have in the book, a senior official, gary cohn taking a document off the presidents desk. the president tells secretary james matters, let's assassinate assad after a chemical weapons attack. gets off the call, secretary mattis says were not doing any of that bit is that supporting itinsubordinate or - -
>> the person feels they have to do it maybe they should come forward. they mentioned the 25th amendment. but woodward's book fits with what we heard frommichael wolf, what we've heard from the anonymous columnist, omarosa . it all fits with the white house that there's an unstable president and a white house that's easily pushed off target. so at that point you start to wonder, what is going on in their? there remark. >>chris: josh. >> the american people are far ahead of where the pundit class is where this administration is. does not let people sitting around suffering under the delusion that somehow the president is up all hours over his briefings. that's not why they love him. love him because he goes with his gut. you either love him or hate him.
those that hate president trump see what bob woodward had written and this new york times op-ed as more evidence of what they suspect in an administration run amok. for those that love him, this is kind of what you voted for. someone that will operate outside the box.we can have arguments about whether or not that's appropriate in this context. taking a member of the presidents desk? some of that just call that staffing. [laughter] >>chris: you may get a call from mitch mcconnell. if it wasn't for that, there were controversies this week that the president send out a tweet i think on monday basically chastising the attorney general for the prosecution of two republican congressman, saying these guys are running. it's the midterm. these are safe seats. don't mess around with that. as one points out at the end of the week, on national security
grounds, he thinks attorney general session should investigate who wrote this. does that help or hurt them to do those kinds of things? >> again, to josh's point, most voters have an opinion. this will either reconfirm the opinion they already have on either side. in terms of having the department of justice investigate the anonymous op-ed, i went back and looked at the report of trump comments and he was asked to that by a reporter. he didn't introduce it. it reports it to you think session should investigate: and he said yes. i'm not one to defend the president in terms of his attacks on the media but i do think sometimes the media plays a role here. they put that idea forward and he said, yes. i think you should. we will see what happens with that. there is asfar as i can tell, no legal basis for it . >>chris: lost in all of this is we have more great economic news this week.20,000 new jobs created - - 200,000 new
jobs. with all the tweets and controversies, that gets lost. >> it may get lost in conversation but when it comes to how people are feeling in middle america and therest of the country, you don't have to tell them when they see more money in their paychecks. you don't have to tell them when a new job becomes available in your town .while there is a lot of noise politically for the president, as we've seen in the past. as these controversies pop up, his approval rating has gone up in a lot of cases because people are seeing results while at the same time there is controversy in washington d.c. >>chris: would the president be wiser to focus on the good news? accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative. >> absolutely. it would be great if he could only focus on the economy but
that's something we've been saying since he started running for president in 2015. that's not going to happen. he's going to focus on all of the issues including being involved in these controversies. >> his poll numbers have gone down lately. it's unclear if this is the start of a new trend or just a bad couple weeks. there has actually been, they have been remarkably stable. they haven't been great but remarkably stable. there has been a dip in the last couple weeks that we are watching. >>chris: the manafort-gary cohn >>chris: the manafort-gary cohn week was about a week. copd makes it hard to breathe. so to breathe better, i go with anoro. ♪ go your own way copd tries to say, "go this way." i say, "i'll go my own way, with anoro." ♪ go your own way once-daily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators that work together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. anoro is not for asthma.
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blistering president trump in an attack by a former president against his successor that is also not normal. we are back with the panel. josh, what do you make of former president obama's return to the political spotlight? how effective do you think he was in going after his successor, president trump and how do you think his involvement will play in terms of the november midterms? >> you just knew president obama wouldn't be able to resist the bright lights in the midterms. you watch president bush after his menstruation largely stayed dark outside of the controversy. particularly when it came to campaigns and elections.you knew president obama couldn't do that. democrats have a problem here and that what we know about this election based on the
special elections is democratic enthusiasm is at an all-time high. they don't need any more enthusiasm. they are right where they need to be. the problem is, if republicans are right where they are in the states that matter in the senate, it negates the advantage they may have. there is nobody other than president trump who motivates the conservative electorate quite like president obama. i think there is danger particularly in states like north dakota, indiana, west virginia, missouri, montana. all of those dates of more republicans than democrats and if they show up, democrats have a problem. >>chris: democrats have wanted this to be a referendum on donald trump. do you like arnold trump or are you troubled by donald trump? to the degree that barack obama becomes the face of the democratic party and to the opposition this fall. yes of course he mobilizes a lot of people. especially minorities, young
people, but he also may mobilize a lot of conservative voters that don't want to return to the days of higher taxes and more regulation of the past. >> you can anticipate he would energize a conservative base, i think that never got over the election of the first black president. obama is going to illinois, he's going to california. he's doing a lot of fundraising that is basically - - >>chris: but he's also getting national exposure. >> because he's a former president point i would say this, in fact historically in midterms, it's the democrats with a problem with turnout. i think there's the fear among democrats that you don't want to count your eggs before they're hatched. remember what happened with the polls and the 2016 presidential race. they want to major their energizing their baseand
critically, reaching out to white suburbanites, mostly women , and critical congressional districts.this is for the house. which is really the goal the democrats have this time around which is to capture the majority of the house. >>chris: the fact is though, if you look at barack obama's record, is great vote-getter for himselfbut when his name is noton the ballot , it doesn't transfer . >> and the 2016 presidential election. >>chris: in fairness, i think you've got to blame that on hillary, not obama. >> that's a reflection of her but also a reflection of his endorsement falling for.he essentially burned to the democratic party to the ground by losing 1000 seats while he was in office. he didn't do enough with the dnc. the democratic operatives were very disappointed in how he focused only on his operation to get elected for president and let these other seeds go by the wayside. the thing he said was he wasn't
just attacking president trump, he was attacking the republican party. trying to talk about how voters are essentially bigoted and they have all of these fears of people look different than them. barack obama got elected twice by a majority and for him to go out and continue to lecture the country about those issues when we've come so far, really rubs people the wrong way. finally, when it comes to whether he will be able to get back to his community organizing ways and be successful, i'm not so sure barack obama is far left enough for this new democratic party. he talked about the founding fathers of the people we should have followed who did good things for the country. on the far left wing of the party, they're talking about taking down the washington monument did any remembrance of those kinds of principles. we'll see how he fits into this new socialism while at the same time, potentially backing joe biden for 2020. >>chris: liz, does obama help or hurt the democrats for the midterms? >> i think on the whole, he
will probably be a help.i think they will use him strategically. that one speech was the most political of the speeches he gave. he went out the next day and gave a speech that was way more toned down in terms of not attacking president trump by name. i think they will be careful. we have a lot of first-time candidates. one of the downsides potentially is they have a ton of new faces and first-time candidates. some of them might benefit from having the gravitas of the former president standing next to them. >>chris: in a normal week, the big news would have been the confirmation hearing for judge brett kavanaugh to be a new supreme court justice and to swing the court to a solid conservative majority. here is kavanaugh this week. >> i am not a pro plaintiff or pro-defendant judge. i am not a pro prosecution or pro-defense judge. i am a pro law judge.
>>chris: how do you think kavanaugh did and did democrats do anything to derail his nomination? >> no. if you want the bottom line, the final score, it looks like he's on his way to being confirmed as the next supreme court justice and giving conservative is solid 5-4 majority on that court for as long as we can see. the man is in his early 50s. in answer to your question as to whether damage was done, the critical issue for me is the impartiality of the court. trust in the court by the american people. we see that going down. this is not a popular candidate. not popular among democrats or republicans i might add. what you saw the democrats do was say, this guy was a political operative. he worked for can start point hecan starr. i think that hurts the supreme
court. >>chris: josh? >> - - particularly quarrycory with the incredibly odd behavior in the im spartacus moment. >>chris: also when he said, if you want to kick me out of the senate, bring it. >> which is all contrived and completely ridiculous. i think at the end of the day, vice president pence said it best. kavanaugh handled himself well but the democrats set themselves back. the reminded americans what a majority of democratic senators would look like. >>chris: the democrats have moved sofar left with that kind of behavior , would that win support: in what would be a very crowded field, get them out of the chorus mind. >> that's clearly the calculus
that cory booker took and i think kamala harris as well be in the two were trying to climb over each other to get more far to the left. in the end, it'sgoing to be justice kavanaugh but he did everything he needed to do in those hearings to get himself confirmed . >>chris: i've got a little over 30 seconds. let's get to juan's bottom line. you worked for mitch mcconnell, you were a vote counter. they did raise issues of where he is on presidential power. on where he is on abortion.>> gay rights. >>chris: thank you. do you sense for what your sources in the senate that they did anything to shake support of republican moderates, particularly pro-choice moderates? >> it's a good question but i think they set themselves back by mischaracterizing. inone sense, judge kavanaugh
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pharaoh dynasty. it was found just west of cairo exceptionally well preserved with intact statues and original colors and hieroglyphics that could offer more understanding of the life back then. from december 16 thank you for joining us on "fox news sunday". chris: a federal judge strikes down obama care and president trumps is one - - inner circle is sentenced to prison who was next toon fall? >> whatever he did he did on his own. >> what does michael cohen's cooperation mean for the
special counsel investigation? me will ask the leadg. lawyer. >> i am proud to shut down the government on border security.. i will be the one to shut it down i will not blame you. >> also with a divided washington with the possible government shutdown over the border wall. >> perhaps he does not understand people need paychecks. >> headed for compromise or confrontation? also the us engagement around the world there are many reasons we should maintain that. >> we will talk to the cochair of the gates foundation what he feels is a threateningng role dealing with poverty. right now. chris: hello again from washington. we begin with breaking news a federal judge has ruled the entire affordable care act.
obama care will remain in place pending appeal that president trumper calling for congress to pass new legislation. we will getinnd to that later bt the president is already dealing with a possible government shutdown now five days away.fi prosecutors are producing more evidence that former members of the inner circle to plead guilty that implicates the president. we will get the latest fly from the white house. >> even for the administration with a shift in the new cycle without a debt a one - - without a doubt a tumultuous week. but it is damaging to the trump white house than those former members. >> three are facing time in prison but none with russian collusion former national security advisor was sentenced
to lying to federal investigators the special counsel's office said he get time even though he was entrapped with questions. meanwhile in the first televised interview since being sentenced he claims he repeatedly lied over the years and set up payments to aid the campaign that was denied by the no white house. >> i will shut it down for the border. >> that did little to quell fears of a potential shutdown over the president's insistence over funding for a border wall that they will not pay for that the backers of the affordable care act to consider their next move in the wake of a ruling that the law is unconstitutiona
unconstitutional. >> to sit down with the democrats to get great health care for our people. >> that ruling by the district court judge does not impact obama care recipients in the short term but it does set up a high court battle and that is the debate white house officials would love to have. >> think you. now joined me from new york that lead lawyer rudy giuliani welcome back. >> let's start with the allegation that president trump directed him to have a criminalca campaign finance violation. >> i never directed him to do anything wrong whatever he did on his own. and then to represent a client. >> he directed me to become
involved in these matters and make the payments. >> did mister trump directed him to pay off the two women are not? mimic the truth is wet :-colon testified to under oath and what he repeated numerous times on tape recordings is that the president did not know about this until sometime into it. he did eventually find out about it and would reimburse him.m. this is hard but even if it were true it's not a crime. this has been covered in the edwards case not only the acquittal of a hung jury but the fact the sec looked at those violations and determined they were notca. chris: we will get to that but let's get to the simple question whether the president directed colin to make these payments are not.
he says the president is not to be believed here he is. >> he does not tell the truth when it is sad that i should take responsibility for his dirty deeds. >> that is some lawyer. he was the lawyer in that situation. >> does the president tell the truth or not? >> yes he is telling the truth he is lying. is this a big surprise that he is lying? he got in front of the judge to say i was fiercely loyal to donald trump. nonsense he taped him and lied to him and revealed the tape that is not something i have ever heard a lawyer ever do? to tape-record your own client and then said he was not being taped two hours. he is a complete pathological liar that will never last on
the witness stand. >> but not the credibility of michael cohen the president has changed his story repeatedly if he knew about hush money here is what he said on air force one in april. >> did you know? no truth? >> you have to ask michael. michael's my attorney and you'll have to ask michael. you'll have to ask michael. spent the president says he doesn't know anything about any payments but in one of those tapes you are talking where colin surreptitiously went tape the president backta in here is the president and t17.
>> and when it comes time for financing. >> no no no. chris: which is it? did he know or not? >> i know this well because i was criticized for revealing this when i came into thee' cas. when i first came into the case the president's awesome notes and documents thought about it and i said no. after this payments took place in before the revelations you are talking about on air force oneid. the president did talk to cohen and people in between and they arranged to reimburse him after the payment was made and over in the campaign was overco. chris: you are talking about a conversation during the
campaign he is clearly aware that the head of the national enquirer had paid offff karen mcdougall they are talking about reimbursing for that payment. >> that's a big difference i was a conversation he was asked in the middle of the camp - - campaign. i was with him i could not remember a lot of things that happened in september 2016 he was asked at one time when he sat down with his lawyer in great detail he immediately corrected it nobody found one - - pushed us we found that and i was criticized like crazy for doing that. chris: according both to cohen and becker who was the head of the national enquirer they said they were not in a meeting - - that they were in
a meeting with trump in 2016 regarding mcdougall. >> it doesn't matter whether it happened or did not happen it is not illegalmeit. chris: but you are moving things around you there it happened or it didn't happen. >> that is what lawyers do all the time they argue the alternative. >> but i wants t the truth in a tape-recorded conversation he says write a check. i'm sorry. i'm implicated up thousands of crimes never implicated pay him back. they paid him back that is what this is all about it exonerates him and i would cross-examine cohen in front of any jury. but cohen did not plead guilty to conspiracy of campaign finance laws of they would use him as a witness plead guilty
to a conspiracy so you can fill that. he pled guilty to a singular crime not a conspiracy. chris: but that statement still references the individual one. >> this is what you told the daily beast this week. nobody got killed. nobody got robbed. this was not a big crime. what is the threshold between a crime or a big crime? mimic my statement is the prosecutors. he who wrote that corrected it to say it was taken out of context. my point was there was noaf crime but if you take the prosecutors viewpoint, looking at collusion. chris: no no no. the southern district of new york.
>> they are part of the department of justice. chris: when you were the us attorney you and take some orders from somebody in washington not the attorney general you were your own. >> the person in charge of this investigation is rubenstein the deputy attorney general he is the boss of the southern district of new york. move it overat here. and then to keep supervision ofat it. and rod will make the decision what to do with this case and not that witchhunt to go back to 1982 and 1983 they are going through business
records. my goodness they went from collusion to obstruction no evidence now campaign finance no violation of thet law the matter who is right there is no violation of the law. >> i have to move on president trump. >> you want to do the truth that is the truth. >> but now president trump talks about whether or not he lied to the fbi to make he tooky a general that said he did not lie and convince them that he did and now they are recommending no time because they are embarrassed because they got caught. chris: does the president believe michael flynn lied or ? >> i don't know if he lied or not that is contradictory you have the fbi saying at the time he was not lying and now we have no explanation and he pleads guilty.
i don't know what happened in between. >> i want to put up a tweet from the president one year ago when he says i had to fire general flynn because he lied to the vice president and the fbi he is pled guilty to those lies. the president one year ago seem to know that he was lying and now not so sure?fl >> the president doesn't know that he lied. he knows what you knew at the time he pled guilty. chris: he knows what flynn said to the vice president. >> that was a lie. but that was not a crime. >> you are all over the place chris and confusing people.
same lie to the vice president and then to lie to the fbi is a crime. >> the more important thing with the president know or did not know with him being involved of conspiracy if it is reported one of the assistance the us attorney lied to the court, if he did or he didn't he knows what he reads he was found guilty of lying.. i did not know at the time. >> i'm not confusing people okay. last three questions there are reports now that the special counsel is interested again interviewing the president.
has his office reached out to you for the in person interview with the president? mimic yes there are several unpaid parking tickets in 1986 that areun not explained. seriously. chris: with the special counsel? >> good luck. what they did to flynn and trap him into perjury? fourteen days for papadopoulos i did better on traffic violations. chris: you say good luck? >> they are a jokeop. over my dead body but i could beouri dead. i am disgusted with the tactics they have used what they did to general flynn resulting in discipline they are violating the law.ca looking at a non- crime collusion the other is a non- crime campaign and they are
violating the law and the rules in the ethics nobody wants to look at them. they destroyed the text and 19000 text they put them in jail. chris: mayor giuliani think you. >> i love it and please come back. chris: up next we will bring in our group to discuss if the judge is obama care ruling could mean for millions of americans and also a president trump saying he would be proud to shut down the government wall and we may use your questions on the air. erent. so, i created a world where i can heal. are all of the dolls people you know? yeah, there's anna... [ gasps ] caralala... nicol... i just moved in across the street.
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>> a highly respected judge. >> on the assumption the upheld for the people we'll have to sit down with the democrats to see what they want to do. chris: president trump praising the federal judge striking down the entire obama care law now it's time for the sunday group. brit hume and juan williams and julie from the washington bureau chief of the associated press and former director of legislative affairs. the federal judge said it is invalid because congress has taken out the tax penalty as part of the individual mandate which is how it'san passed the supreme court in the first place but that is pending
appeal. >> this is a trial court judge soe it is subject to appeal possibly to the supreme court it is an interesting argument because of that invalidation to zero out the penalty so the whole law is invalid that could be a good argument on both sides of that issue but because the judge did not issue an injunction that obama care will remain in place of what is left of it for the perceivable futur future. >> but those that they did not like and that would be out also. >> it could be out soon but that would affect on the practical effect and there is nine for the time being.
>> they ran on 2016 on the idea of repeal and replace which was a good issue for them democrats 12018 on the argument to take away pre-existing conditions even with the fact not to have a practical effect may be a few months or a year as a ghost through the court. >> republicans are on their heels especially the incoming speaker of the house. what the senator from the connecticut to say it is a five alarm fire. if you take away obama care after 70 votes with the republican majority not only
would do away with things like prohibition you would drive up premiums for everybody the healthcare system would be in chaos. so what you get republicans right now including trump who tweeted great we need a bipartisan collaboration to make healthcare work that is a different tone from republicans and that is very telling. >> republicans won in 2010 and 2014 and 2016 from the promise of obama care now. >> because the last two years premiums went up 105 percent over the last year those 50 percent of counties they had one insurer and now that hasre been fixed.
because this administration provided more choices. that doesn't mean forcing people to buy a product that they don't want. what you deafly don't hear from republicans is any interest to go back to the drawing board to start from scratchep. and those who who don't want to spend 2019 deep in the weeds of healthcare. chris: but with 2018 there is a real threat of a government shutdown this friday. >> i am proud to shut down the government over border security because the people of this country don't want criminals or people with lots of problems and drugs pouring into the country. >> he is taking full responsibility for the shutdown but perhaps he does
not understand people need their paychecks. >> so on this issue saying that they would be proud so why is shutting down the government not something to be proud of if it means protecting the o country? that is what we elected the president to do. how do you answer linda? what willis happen? >> if there was a shutdown it would be different the government already has all those serving in men and women in uniform so we wouldn't even recognize the shutdown. >> about 30 percent of the government to get shutdown or 30 or 40 percent of thern
employees. >> so that average person will not feel that in the near future but they will find a compromise and to get that out of the military construction dollars at the problem later because democrats will reject that but we secured and then to say we already agreed to it. all they argue about is how much it cost. >> that is a joke. [laughter] >> shutdown or not? >> all signs point to a compromise. with those patterns and how they play out the last week they had very little interest
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"life, liberty & levin" starts right now. ♪ aunt stark is seen as veterans of normandy returned to the country they liberated 80 years ago at me with the leader fighting to save his country now. cracks you are the savior of the people. shannon: emotional commemoration of d-day in an already present invited me with g7 leaders in italy facing increasing criticism from european allies were standing by israel in its war against hamas while trying to bolster support for ukraine as it struggles in its war with russia peopl will talk with repn tom cotton mr. summit intel and armed services committees. then, five months out for election day present by the family takes executive action to try to secure america's a broken border pit where the top issues voters say is hurting the country. plexus will help us gain control of our border, restore order in the process. lexa biden's order is not a border security plan. it is a concession to the fact he has lost control over our borders. shannon: more than 8 million micro encounters at the bar since present invited tech officer it will his moves be enough to stem the flow of migrants have overwhelmed cities and a red and blue states including these nations of the biggest end, new york city plus democratic congressman ritchie torres who played host to a trump rally last month. plus pick works when someone lies to congress that is a crime. even if you are the presidents on the progress knew trouble for hunter biden house republicans accused him of lying to congress part of the same time his defense team prepares to fight back against the prosecution case in this felony gun trial at our sunday pan on the particle blowback for the president. all right now on "fox news sunday" at ♪ ♪ hello fox news in new york. headlines today, the celebration israel this weekend as for israelis are rescued and the largest hostage rescue operations and the largest since began to report reno with family after 246 days in captivity. hamas says a 200 side of our palestinians were killed during the raid. built by that military in gaza is back up and taking and food and humanitarian aid for palestinians after it was blown apart and high winds and heavy seas last month. voters across europe are set to decide the direction of the european union's in parliament today. early polls suggest they could shift the largest trading block to the right. a bit concerned over the war in ukraine and migration for those issues sure to be a top party g7 leaders prepared to meet and a link this week including president biden part a moment we'll get reaction from republican senator tom cotton. first we have team coverage from trey yingst in israel and where we began with white house correspondent peter doocy in paris. >> good afternoon of a present bidens that part's last day here in paris and greeting u.s. embassy staff to rezone his weight right now to go lay a wreath at world war i memorial port all while warding he thanks another big war in this part of europe could be possible if the west stops sending nine figure munition packages to ukraine. >> you know putin is not going to stop at ukraine. it is not just ukraine it's much more than ukraine. all of europe will be threatened. we are not going to let that happen. >> later this week the g7 western allies will work not just to help ukraine but figure how to counter china economically present biden claim during during a coffee's getting complaints lately from president xi this will be subtitles because the president was speaking so softly. >> might last discussion. >> present biden is not acknowledged the large broke pals and protest at the white house saturday that wrapped all the way around campus. is that is keeping the talk about the war and gossip focused on the rescued hostages. pursuant to ech echo presidents comments welcome this save rescue of four hostages returned to their families in israel. we won't stop working to all the hostages come home and a cease-fire is reached that is essential to happen. but before attending this week's g7 in italy which is a very short flight from here, president biden is going to fly home to delaware for a couple of days which will mean he will be home if there's a verdict in his son's trial by midweek. shannon: will talk much about that later in the show peter doocy thank you very much from paris is go to trey yingst in tel aviv where people are celebrating the return of those for rescued hostages. >> hate shannon, good morning. almost 250 days into the war, the israeli people received a rare piece of good news amid the conflict. twenty-six year old noa argamani aperture 56 days in captivity she's headed home. >> israel special forces conducted complex hostage rescue mission and successfully rescued four of our hostages from captivity and gossip it with a daring rescue operation taking place in central gaza at two locations is really forces engaged in fire fights with hamas gunmen before securing the hostages. helicopters arrived at israeli hospital, crowds cheered, for israelis after more than eight months in gaza were reunited with their loved ones. a father, with his daughter but a man with his friends, a mother with her son. >> thank you. thank you for bringing my son to me. to us. i am so excited that i could hug him today. this story does not come without dark preacher in the operation one israeli officer succumbed to his wounds sustained during the battle and according to the hamas run palestinian health ministry over 200 people the majority sibley were killed during the operation that included extensive israeli airstrikes. but they did not send u this warning or leaflets or nothing. body parts spread in the streets. >> the rescue operation illustrate the contradictions of war for palestinians it was a day of the death and destruction. for the israeli people exactly 35 weeks after black saturday it was a day of hope. shannon: trey yingst live in israel for starting is now arkansas senator tom cotton print welcome back to the show i want to start with your reaction to the daring rescue and the good news. quick shannon, thank you for having me on. what a wonderful day for the people of israel to have four of these hostages rescued in a truly heroic well executed mission yesterday had a chance to speak with prime minister netanyahu shortly after the mission pretty commended the israeli defense forces and the israeli police who helped execute this operation. i am very dismayed by sources and the progressive left here in america including the "new york times," "washington post" or somehow condemning israel for saving for hostages at the cost of the supposedly more than 200 palestinians. we cannot take at face value what hamas says and the ministry of health. but my advice to them if you don't want your people killed in a hostage rescue missions you should not take hostages in the first place. you should release what you have you certainly should not hide them in civilian areas. so hats off to the israeli security forces for a fantastic day in a rescue release for hostages. >> we understand there are still americans being held. there's been discussion whether our own special forces should be operating in that region there is great concern u.s. forces being on the ground there's been a pledge that will not happen but what about our hostages and getting them out? quick shannon, our military is several units specifically trained in hostage rescue. they always have to be available and ready to rescue american citizens, wherever they may be. those are our responsibilities not israel's or any other nation. that said the israeli defense forces and security forces have the expertise operating in gaza working with the american government specifically our intelligence services as well. i am confident israel's government had a chance to rescue american citizens they would you the exact same for our citizens that they would do for israel but our hostage rescue teams always have to be available we simply would not want to have any kind of conflict with israel hostage rescue teams who want to work with them hand in glove to make sure every hostage gives it back alive. shannon: are more than 100 of that we're still try to figure how they come home for the meat of the present given injury to time magazine a few days ago he said this sum and is or have suggested netanyahu is a prolonged the war for his own political self-preservation do you believe that? president biden responded i'm not going to comment on that but added the source every reason for people to draw that conclusion. what do you make of that response from him in the region what you say to critics who say that is exactly what netanyahu is doing? >> this is another slander by joe biden against benjamin netanyahu and the israeli government at large. prime minister netanyahu policies are very popular. is it war cabinet signing off on missions like you saw yesterday. at every turn tries to limit israel's action their ability to defend themselves and put more pressure on israel. not pressure on hamas and its patrons in the middle east. just look at what happened yesterday outside of the white house fo but anti- american pro- hamas lunatics defacing and desecrating the statues of our great veterans. which is a violation of our federal law. joe biden's government allowed it to happen. i bet we will not see any arrest or prosecutions for violating that law will introduce legislation this week that impose stiffer penalties we can lock these lunatics up. biden thanks these lunatics should be guiding american policy towards israel. what we should be doing is backing israel to the hilt really done that since october 7 attacks this war would probably already be over for the hostages would be free there be less civilian casualties and suffering in gaza. joe biden is instead catering to the small pro- hamas wing of the democrat party and set a backing israel like the large approach israel's majority of the american people want astute. shannon: that is what the polling shows let's talk about another ho hotspot, ukraine. present been spending time with he apologize for the delay of a this latest round that came through. he said he blames him a very conservative members holding it up and said we finally got it done. you blocked when the earlier packages read concerns about it. there are changes you ultimately vote for. you think is pointing the finger at you? quick shannon, he shall be pointing the finger at himself. for more than two years joe biden pussyfooting around and did not give ukraine the weapons it needed to defend itself. every turn and this war ukraine has asked for certain types or quantity of weapons. weapons. joe biden has refused only to reverse three or six or nine months later when it was too late. take a step back and look at the broader context. joe biden is largely responsible for tempting vladimir putin to do it he always wanted to do. which is invade and annex ukraine back to russia. and, if you notice vladimir putin only tends to invade ukraine when democrats are present till it did under barack obama he did und did under joe d not happen under donald trump. for four years we had peace and stability and effect donald trump reversed barack obama and joe biden's failed policy of sending ukrainians and blankets and ponchos proven donald trump was in office we sent them the javelins that were essential for winning the battle and the way to have peace in europe and for that matter peace and stability around the world is to remove joe biden from the white house on election day this year and return donald trump. that is how we get back into peace and stability. shannon: you talk about annexation want to bring this up the reports of resident trump plans to do is to potentially push ukraine to give up crimea, if that is the plan do you agree with that strategy and would that be rewarding putin in order to wrap this up in the way he intended to start it and take some of the territory is not just giving him what he wanted? quick shannon, president trump and his campaign has said in eight reports of plans like that are not authorized and are not coming from the president himself but furthermore president trump has said he strongly supports ukraine's strength and survival. he is strong relationship when he was in office with president zelenskyy bird president trump is the one who provided ukraine the weapons they needed to fend off this russia invasion that happen in large part because of joe biden's weakness. i do not think president trump was to prejudge what the situation will become january, nor do i. in part because we have no idea how much worse and joe biden can screw things up but if you judge the circumstances as they exist next year when he returns to office and hopefully will be have a republican majority in congress as a welt to make decisions about what best protects america's interest in the interest of our allies and partners. shannon: on the talk is about you being on the shortlist for vice president. can you confirm whether being vetted formally? quick shannon, as i have said i think only one person know who's on the shortlist. thirty-six at paperwork, requests and those kinds of things? quick shannon i think he will make a choice when he is ready to make that choice i'm confident he's going to make a good choice for the ticket and the party but more importantly for the country. i think uganda will make that choice and the time is right. i am focused on helping him win this election. helping republicans win that majority in the congress so we can begin to reverse the damage joe biden has inflicted on this country for four years. shannon: is fair to say you all made statements like things like nato, international organizations, america's role in the global stage that are different. would you come as a vice president advocate for policies that may not line up with your commander-in-chief? are you two different on issues of poor foreign-policy question puts president trump and i've long been lined on foreign policy both subscribe to what you might say was ronald reagan's vision which is peace through strength for four years of president trump of the white house we had peace and stability around the globe we did not have wars breaking out in europe and the middle east and being the threats and in asia. we believe sometimes you have to use a military force indiscriminate fashion way president trump did when he authorized the strike against iran's terrorist mastermind sulla money. we believe we need to pressure allies to take more responsibility providing our defense or taking responsibility for what is happening in their own region in part because america needs to take the lead against china and the western pacific to preserve peace and stability there. i believe president trump and i rely on foreign policy just like ronald reagan was which is peace through strength strategy which is where the vast majority of not just republicans but normal americans think. only pro- hamas anti- american lunatics the democrat party think america is to blame for what's happening in the world or that we should retreat from strength and confidence in the world. shannon: we hope to hear more from president trump maybe the debate stage on his plans for ukraine in the meantime's senat, thank you for your time keep us updated on that paperwork. >> thank you, janet. [laughter] protects border cast thousands of migrant so crossing into the u.s. daily despite the presence executive actions fox news will take you alive to the border new york congressman democrat ritchie torres is here in studio next ♪ ♪ >> that we have not shut down a silent but we have done is further strengthen the border through executive action. which can be challenged and will be challenged in the courts which is why we need congress to act. shannon: homeland security secretary friday after president biden issued executive actions the white house says are aimed at controlling the flow of migrants illegally crossing the border. how is the reality playing out on the ground? matt finn is live at the border in california with the real world impact. >> border patrol agents here tell us this area just outside of san diego for the past three years has been a hotspot because human smugglers of their gaping holes in the border wall and they can easily push illegal migrants through. just outside of san diego fox camera captured yet another group of 40 -- 50 migrants illegally crossing. coming from all over the world including china, india, vietnam. one migrant posed for parents whose loaded onto a bus. this week facing mounting political pressure and concerning poll numbers, president biden announced executive order that suspends and limits the entry of noncitizens which will remain in effect until the daily average of migrant encounters drops below 1500 for seven consecutive days. >> and moving past and using executive authorities available to me as president to do it i can on my own to address the border. migrants will be restricted from receiving asylum at our southern border unless they seek after entering through establish lawful process. ask biden claims migrants who now cross illegally will be in eligible for asylum unless they have exceptionally compelling circumstances. >> i will terminate every single open border policy of the biden administration as soon as i take the oath of office. >> or has not been any immediate change as far as any significance of a decrease in illegal border crossings since the announcement. >> this week fox crew spo box ch migrants from across the globe to the major american san diego metropolitan. all from egypt? america. >> jordan. jordan? why did you come to egypt? why did you come to america? >> for a job. >> for a job? yes you know it's illegal to cross a word like this, right? >> yes but you don't care? >> yes. >> shanna, looks like president biden executive order on immigration could be indefinite for the threshold for it to end is when the daily average hits about 1500 the latest numbers obtained by fox news show we are sitting about 3900 right now. shannon: matt finn live at the border thank you very much. for joining me now insert ignorant congressman democrat ritchie torres. it's good to see if it. >> is a pleasure to be here in person. shannon: has a very nice to see you. let's talk about new york city there's an influx of some estimates wonders 35000 migrants in a relatively short period of time. no city council member said we are spending more taxpayer money to care for foreign nationals that we are on the annual budget at nypd, at the end why the department of sanitation combines. i know your reaction this week to some of the executive action by the president was where you do not want to be indistinguishable you said from republicans you are worried about excluding or erasing certain communities of color. what do you say to the people of color are your constituents or people live in this town who are worried about the system being overwhelmed, public safety, education. mayor adam said it could destroy the city. >> the concerns are fair. the migrant crisis has put an enormous strain on the social safety net system of nurse that we in the nine states have a dysfunctional asylum system. anyone anywhere can cross the border, claim asylum, enter the country and border patrol has no emergency authority to limit crossings in the event of a search. that's the gap executive order is billing but in the end executive order is no substitute for an act of congress only congress can fix what's broken in our asylum system for quick to note both sides to point the finger at each other. house republicans will say we passed hr to it's very comprehensive. the president say what about the deal this cent you guys had together? it seems it does not matter who is in charge of this problem is intractable does not get salt. >> there's one party that has a by camera by partisan order security it is the democratic party we the democrats negotiated border security compromise with the republicans but there are number of republicans press a small handful. >> most notably mitch mcconnell he was before is for the bill before is against is pressured by donald trump to oppose legislation. those republicans are actively obstructing oppose the border security compromise have no interest in actually solving the problem they're interested in playing politics and demagogue the issue against president biden. there is a difference fink governing and grandstanding and governing as compromise have refused to compromise if you let the enemy of the good you're not part of the solution part of the problem. shannon: they had a number of problems many saying they felt they had no say it was negotiated to a point where they could not go along with what wasn't it. we look at the issue of immigration is not good for the white house or the president. new pulling out a number of key states and virginia. when people were asked who you trust to handle immigration more double-digit you see on our screen they think president trump is a much better handle on us. >> looked out encourage you to look at new york three long island was ground zero for the red wave in new york and tom was able to win back new york three by an even larger margin that we lost in 2022 he was largely campaigning on border security so tom has shown democrats can proactively on the issue border security i do not think we should proceed to the republicans. shannon: when you look at a 20-point deficit for president biden and is really critical states that's got to be a warning sign to the white house. does it then make you question as some do this executive action is just a political ploy in an election year? >> the present is acting because of congressional in action. congress needs to do its job to keep in mind the political establishment has a history of underestimating president biden he has proven the conventional wisdom is wrong i suspect is going to outperform the polls and out perform the predictions of the political pundits and the prognosticators. quick so they get tighter people now to make a decision third-party candidates the pole with significant numbers once devoted to the ballot box or early vote they've got to make a decision is often times tighten up. i want to ask about all these recent reports questioning the president's ability to run, to be effective for the four years forgives in the polls is not just republicans as democrats and independents of questions about the sea atlantic had a really tough piece out yesterday. referring to the president as another ruth bader ginsburg she does not know when it's time to leave and it cost the country that seat across the democrats that seat they say this about him and i say he remains a comprehensively weak income but weighed down by the same liabilities that burden from the start. beginning with the largest and completely unfixable one at 81 he is much too old to run for president. you said last year 80 is not ideal for the age of a candidate running. but here we are. what do you make of these reports you think the president is up to the four years? >> have full confidence in the presence through the present is old so is donald trump. cooher toys and people differeny because our people seem less concerned about president trump's age. >> is a narrative but if you actually look at his record it speaks for itself. he is most productively by partisan presidencies in recent memory you bring down democrats and republicans together to provide healthcare to veterans exposed to toxic substances, but brought democrats republicans to mix in the largest investments in infrastructure more than half a century. brought together to address the national security risk around tiktok. when you judge him based on substance rather than narrative i think he deserves reelection. shannon: on the estimate the big rally president trump had a couple of weeks ago in your district prints a very diverse district. a lot of folks showed up at we talk to some of them out there but one gentleman says you are taking everything from blacks and browns everywhere it is hispanics or the other people do not have a lot for your taking it and giving it to illegal aliens which is totally wrong. he talked about why he was attending this at many other similar statements from folks. why do you think your constituency is moving and poll numbers shows hispanic and black waters moving to president trump in a way they did in 2020. >> first approximate overwhelmingly vote for president biden despite a few anecdotes because it will be shocked if it were other ways. >> the latina boat in 2000 george w. bush went up 40 40% oe latino votes. puerto ricans and dominicans of the south bronx are different from cubans and venezuelans in florida who are different from mexicans in california are different from mexicans in the south texas. the latino vote ha is been a bipartisan vote for long time despite what the polls say we should be campaigning if we are 10 or 20 points bite we should never take any constituency for granted but we should campaign for every single vote. >> always a good base for any campaign despite any polls be fighting for every single vote congressman thank you for taking time to come and we appreciate it. up an excellent president trump makes a massive fundraising hall in the space once a dime to buy democrats less than three weeks ahead of the first presidential debates. our sunday panels are to break the new polls showing significant movement with key voting blocs that could make the difference for either candidate come november. ♪ ♪ i rally and backgrou battlegrt after rigging and big fundraising over the weekend. fox news senior correspondent is live on the ground with the very latest. >> former president trump arrives here in the silver state after striking gold big dollar donors in california. silicon valley is not a place republicans typically tap for campaign cash former president trump got a boost after tech investor david zach's held a packed private event in san francisco. >> the bay area is liberal and so we thought that 5 million might be a big lift turns out we got all the way to 12 are. >> he trust trump more than present by the issues including the economy, border and foreign policy. >> he types are beginning to change in california but they're starting to look at who are the people they are electing? the answer is postconviction or chestrust which ballooned to a combined $291 million from self-reported funds, are and see many organizations are back in. biting campaigns as well trump's case mabe reenergized his base, monies being spent on legal bills not voters. >> and it comes to money this is going be very competitive race. we note donald trump is going to raise a lot of money. we raise a lot of money but as of april biden cash on hand advantage is about $35 million. trump started his west coast swing in arizona he promised to resend biden's executive order limiting asylum-seekers to the united states. cooks i will terminate every single open borders a policy of the biden administration. >> bided narrowly won arizona and nevada in 2020 new fox news polling shows voters are unhappy with their finances the president's job performance. and head to head match ups he leads bided by five points in both states. >> former presidents rally begins in las vegas later this afternoon but the national weather service has issued excessive heat watch. the campaign is telling supporters to be mindful of the temperatures they will be providing water and have cooling stations. shannon, the high today forecasted in las vegas 103. >> are right live in vegas and boris. thank you very much. time for our sunday group. fox news contributed present of american spirit tammy bruce author of the new book, fear itself predisposing the left mind killing agenda but former tennessee democratic congressman cohost of the five fox news contributor harold ford junior former new york republican congressman, former gubernatorial nominee and prosecutor of lee is eldon. good to see you all the new york studio in person pre-thank you for being here but let's start with the fox news polling we have out and ke he states. will stop on a couple of them but let's put up florida. president trump up by four they're pretty going to nevada he is up by five. and then in arizona he is also up by five. but there is another twist to this i want to put up in arizona there is an abortion measure they'll be on the ballot and people asked whether they would vote for constitutional amendment to the right to abortion on the statement of the 70% say yes 27% said no. tammy, how could that impact could be a spoiler for president trump went into arizona has a comfortable lead at the moment? what that is the issue the democrats have relied upon to increase their enthusiasm. people are going to rush to vote for joe by if you put an issue on this it could be a variety of issues that is something people are passionate about. it will get them to the polls. however, i do not think this poll also says biden said about five point on the issue of abortion when it comes head to head with trump. suicide a huge lead. you've got republicans who were alarealso agreeing with that bat measure. i think the trump enthusiasm we have seen this, even after the verdict, this poll it is monstrous, it is huge. this is the one thing thing the democrats have been relying on from the beginning because of biden's weakness. even that is not playing as much as they thought it would even suburban women have moved to trump. is going to be the push for the next few months i don't think it's going be a problem for trump i think they're able to beat that. >> and got sick at the turn out both sides of got to get operations i mean democrats seem to have an advantage they are underway and some the things he trump team seems applicable catch up on there in arizona will say that let's look to the issues we talked about abortion, president biting at the edge on climate change, abortion, election integrity and healthcare. president trump by much bigger margins gets the wind from these folks on israel/hamas where the economy, immigration and the border and harold, those are issues people say are more important to them. >> happy sunday, thank you for having us do. i think a couple of things big democrats we should be concerned about the state-by-state polling data showing us down for five-point to president trump at 50. anytime your opponent is at 50 and president trump is a unique opponent he's been a president before that should b because for some concern. but there are some things working in favor president biden but first off president trump's most pessimistic major candidate for president i've ever seen everything is the worst. president biden is the worst, the economy is the worst scum of the borders the worst there's still an element of americans wantamerica'swanting positives g some optimism regardless of how tiktok and social media has influence politics. two, president biden's got to talk about his record if he is straight 50 million-dollar jobs, enter thousand manufacturing jobs investments in arizona including phoenix where they become a manufacturing hub and will continue to be one going forward. you cannot underestimate the power of abortion. keeping it legal and safe. it certainly has been an issue in 2006 same-sex marriage went about and say someone to ensurienshrine that and state constitutions hoping to bring out bigger republican voting numbers. this issue will certainly do that. and the question will come down i think to a viable election had a people feel about their finances? how to go about their future and economic security come october? whomever has the advantage at that moment will have the advantage come november. shannon: would have a question thank you for getting us there will say because we'll get the tweets if i don't 59 jobs created but no give tests on the sill go back and say it most came back because of covid. there's been job creation. but, as a result the latest round of unemployment good jobs anumbers but again previous months have been revised downward seems to have a house every month progress wages are going up also. whatever the number is been 14.9 million jobs created. we can quarrel about all day but if we lost 14.9 million jobs, the tweets will be saying biden is the reason. >> of the economic issue come up to this point in virginia where there is a thai head to head president biden wen one bite 10 points more than 10 points there last summer and they were tied one of the questions asked what about your family's financial situation? will put this up. holding steady 43% 40% of people say falling behind. lee, you are to the ballot box in october people are going to vote based on their own economics, their own pocketbook. >> no doubt. the household debt being very high for a lot of families for families who want to get the first home interest rates are higher for some people there but they are in a home prioritizing upper economic mobility harder to be able to afford that larger house. the economy as an issue decide your vote in november is a bigger issue for people who are not benefiting from the economy right now. the point whether it's arizona, florida, nevada, for it voters a lot of them are talking about the border as a top priority there talk about the economy as a top priority. they are not talking as much about some these other issues. into the conversation about abortion being on the ballot they have backed the blue measure in arizona they ha devae white amendment to comment child sex trafficking. i think in the end of the day comes onto the mechanics and campaign it comes down to both sides as ritchie torres was talking t in his message of democrat that applies to republicans take absolutely nothing for granted but work hard on all day every day progress every campaign is at the absolute truth panel do not go far. up next hundred biden's federal gun cases back in session tamara's attorney taken this weekend to decide if the president's son will take the stand. plus, if you need a break available for streaming right now vaccination '80s quiz show you'll recognize a lot of familiar faces including mine. we get a little crazy because super competitive if you've need a break this is fun hosted by the one and only chuck woolery on fox nation. treated any differently than any other american pickers. >> they argue, jason smith argues he did not tell the truth. >> jake and smith kim pursue every remedy available to him burke says that is what is doing a house ways and means chair jason smith oversight ranking member congressman this week. house republicans announce head and criminal referrals to the justice department recommending hunter and james biden the charge of making false statements to congress related to the house impeachment inquiry by the republicans against president biden democrat say this is all a stunt we are back out the panel. lee i will start the former prosecutor this is the letter they're sending over too d.o.j. hundred biden and james may provably false statement oversight committee and judiciary. is d.o.j. going to rethink with this? >> they should. you see steve bannon on his way to prison, peter was sent to prison, these are chargers that get treated very seriously by the d.o.j. when you are going after the right. it is the d.o.j.'s and jute duty to treat the serious is coming from a nine states congress there is testimony given under oath. no one is above the law. those are joe biden's own words right after this verdict came out of manhattan a week and a half ago. the d.o.j. should absolutely investigate it. i happen to agree, knowing the evidence that was presented i agree hundred biden and james biden lied under oath. and for whatever reason, it means to justify the ends of and you're going after president trump to lock him up for the best of his life are bankrupt him and his family or from some cases remove them from the ballot for the left assignment attack on democracy this is everything we have had to witness and they have not even stopped yet they are still going. i think you're the d.o.j. has a responsibility you take it serious it's a referral finances congress with evidence to back it up. shannon: d.o.j. it may be done with at contempt citation for the eternal time itself james, was to send one over potential they're moving forward with this heahe says house oversight and judiciary committees issued lawful subpoenas for the audit records record the present biden interview special counsel her yet he continues to defy our subpoenas there must be consequences for refusing to comply with lawful congressional subpoenas. >> what, i am fatigued by all of the referrals, by the investment i was fatigued when democrats were doing it against president trump this is a group of people in the congress the last 40 years or 41 years of only submit a budget on time four times. this is a group of people in congress hamas attacked israel october 7 it took them months to finally provide some funding for our neighbors for our friends and allies. the blame goes on both sides i would agree with lee, if there is reason for the justice department no reason to believe they will not take these referral seriously. i hope they do what i hope they give us an answer more quickly than not it's important to note the issues were held in contempt because they did not show up. but if indeed there were allies here in myth truth or not truth i hope they go after but i hope at some point to get back to during their day jobs. democrats and republics if democrats are fortunate to gain a majority in the fall which is not out of the room i hope they take a lesson and realize people want them to behave seriously and do serious things i do not consider this the most serious of efforts by congress. shannon: you guys have broken free but former members of congress didn't break free i was i would've stayed there. >> you look at the polling, congress get some of the worst stuff 19% was the lesson we had on that. may not want to make sure we touch on this there's a number of democrats out there warning of president trump is reelected he's talked to be about being a dictator being vindictive or revengeful. here's a little bit from left will hear from the former president too. >> i am telling it trump could end up rolling the score of got congress, and about the supreme court. i own it all. i am a dictator. it's very reasonable to assumed. >> people are actually worried abouome sort of extrajudicial detention as crazy as this sounds in the united states of america people should really consider these are possibilities. >> okay here's what president trump said when he is asked by sean hannity about these accusations. >> at number one, they are wrong it has to stop otherwise were not going to have a country. we cannot have this stuff go on. when biden goes out everyone says bye-bye and he gets indicted two days later and they go after him. the country does not want that. they did not want i with hilary clinton either. shannon: what do you make of the back-and-forth? works ciampa said even before about hilary when asked specifically put her in jail line, is that will be too divisive this is been a consistent position of his for years now. at no point has he created an action or made a point of statement going to be a dictator through everyone in jail it's been the opposite. then you got that left using meeting to try to guess i people. the fact of the matter is a biden has joked about defying the supreme court on the student loan decision. he has joked about that. only president trump is the one who has been on trial and faces being put in prison which many, including eye, think they will infect incarcerate him in some fashion. it seems a little bit but rejection considering the nature of what's been going on i think it is a shame. the american people can see the difference trump is been vocal about this consistently with piercing simply not true. shannon: before we go does hunter biden testified next week? i don't think he does, do you anybody? >> i think you should but no question. >> 's second greatest letter all times or no. >> oh boy. we'll see if the jury thanks about that his father sank this week he is not planning to pardon him. all right panel thank you very much. coming up i'm going to introduce you to an israeli man who survived the october 7 the taxi was huddled with his family in a safe room as friends and family members were murdered and kidnapped. here about his mission to all the remaining hostages a home fm gaza now. sleepy? headaches? dry skin? you're probably dehydrated. try liquid labs rapid hydration. it's packed with all five essential electrolytes. taste amazing and way less sugar than sports drinks? rehydrate and feel better with liquid labs. grab liquid labs in the walmart vitamin aisle today. shannon: sending good news for hostage wreck rescued and gaza highlighted the fact hamas is still holding more than 100 people taken on october 7. talked with a survivor of the attacks he lost his father in law and many friends is now fighting to get the remaining hostages home including several from his own community but we spoke before the news that this weakens courageous rescue. it is this week's sunday special. shannon: how are you doing several months out but still very fresh? >> first of all, thanks for letting me speak here. difficult times we live in difficult times. for the last eight months i live in a hotel. it's not so easy in a very small room with my four kids and my wife. and actually with my dog. it does not matter. only about 125 people from israel who are still in gaza kidnapped. eleven of them are our community, our family. this is the hardest event. the hardest thing to do. >> not knowing. >> going to ask you both your ribbon and the necklace you have we in the when called a dog tag but it is very similar in israeli culture what it is because it israel you knew sir e the army you get one with your number, your personal number in the army. and now here in english is ha is and bring them home now. and in hebrew which means our hearts is to gaza. the yellow ribbon is a symbol again to beat with the kidnapped people in their families and friends as a symbol we empathize with them. so they will know we are thinking about them all day long all the time. >> this is incredibly difficult. people were taken some have not survived. we know we continue to find out there hostages who have not survived their captivity with hamas. what is your message here in the u.s.? >> we need to get help from everyone we can. first of all to bring everybody home. >> what you make of the conversations ongoing? there have been some releases. can't israel negotiate with hamas over these things? are they a reliable actor in these negotiations? >> one of the problems we have is we have some targets, not one. we have some targets it's very difficult to know what to do first. think the israel government we need to first win the war. i do not know what it is we lost the war on the seventh of october. we lost the battle. to win the war we bring the citizens back. not soldiers at citizens, civilians, they were taken from their homes. so, to win the war first bring them back. and then we will deal with gaza. >> can you envision a future? you grew up on the border with gaza your entire life. can you envision a future post war in which you can live peacefully and live safe on that border? >> i hope so. i am optimistic. we need to change something. i still do not know what. we cannot go and live the same way we live. now, when my kids hear a siren for example to think the terrorists are going to come. we are refugees in our own country and i'm going to go back it will take time physically and mentally. but we go back and we want to go back we are not ler home paragrh to the israeli people feel supported by the americans? >> i want to think yes the majority think the united states to help us very much. i met with many, many people these last few days from the congress i feel the love that i feel we are together on this occasion is not just a fight between israel and hamas. it is in between good and bad. good and evil. shannon: thank you for sharing your story with us we appreciate it. >> thank you. shannon: and so we sat down with naor pakciarz we learned of the rescue of those in gaza he sent us a statement we are very happy poor of our captives were rescued by the idf. but we must remember the job is not done. we are still missing 120 hostages we need to bring back home fast. we continue to call upon the international community until all of our families are back home but we think a first time for a quick note my podcast is outliving the bremen this morning i sat down at tonya sheet one to give hope to students on the auburn campus where her husband is a basketball coach. it led to a gathering started revival on numerous campuses across the south. what how it happened where they're going next rate living in the bremen anywhere you get your podcast for that is it, thank you for joining us. i am shannon bream. have a wonderful week and we will see you nex ♪ ♪ ♪
reporting here washington. it is time now for our sunday group, "usa today" white house correspondent francesca chambers, juan williams, former chief of staff to mitch mcconnell, josh holmes, and penny if nance -- penny nance, welcome to all of you. i want to look at some pew center research. they were looking at the effect of dr. martin luther king's legacy, and they say this: 52% of americans say there's been a great deal or a fair amount of progress on racial equality in the last 60 years. a third say there's been some progress, but 15% say there's not been much or no progress at all. 60 years out from that speech, juan, where do you think we are? >> i think we've made progress, i don't think there's any question. now, remember e, dr. king made that speech in 1963, that's before passage of the '64 civil rights act, so we still had segregated movie theater seating and water fountains and the like. so i don't think there's any question we've made progress. but you can't use that as an excuse to look away from the