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Weird but i never thought my vote mattered and i want to preface this i dont understand the politics but i understand the Ethics Commission and the relationship with the Sunshine Ordinance Task force. It seems to be strange. Because they didnt want to send the case here. I asked them to so there was accountability on behalf of those at the Planning Department and our faith in government is there is accountability and responsibility and after six hearings with the sunshine ordinance and quite a l...

[gavel] good afternoon and welcome to the july 28 meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission. I will take attendance. Chairperson mr. Hur has been excused for personal reasons and calling the other commissioners. Renne. Here. Commissioner andrews. Here. Commissioner keane. Here. Before taking Public Comment on item number 2 i just want to call everybodys attention to the fact that the regular meeting for august has been canceled, and there will be a special meeting on august 18 at 10 00 a. M...

Records he was entitled to under the sunshine ordinance act and under the open records act, and was not given them and was given them later than the period he asked for them. Youre aware of that . Yes. Okay. So what youre saying when you agree with your report you are agreeing that in regard to your department your department did then violate the particular rules relating to the obligation to turn over these materials at the time they should have been turned over . Yes. We will contend those wil...

Two years of discussion and were the Ethics Commission and according to the sunshine ordinance the only people we can discipline are elected heads and officials and so if you have a complaint against a line employee your response from the staff is we cant do anything, so these things go back and forth and you know. You can say the task force knows what its doing but every single time the task force sends awe recommendation you find or the staff finds a reason to find fault and if you think its a...

Tonight to recommend that a public hearing on mr. Pilpels sia violation be expedited and put on your next commission meeting. Any other Public Comment . Commissioners, directors of San Francisco and [inaudible] open government and i would like to say will. Back to my general comment and regarding the things with the new members. Frankly i think asking a question what good is it going to do to do this is rather transparent, but what its supposed to do is get people to follow the law. They all hav...

Of law is based on an analysis. And then same page line 13. Let attorney and the ceo. We would add that attorney and the ceo have each made a contact specifying that the contact made a contact as well. I think thats it. With those pardon me . [inaudible] for Public Comment on this issue. I just want to get the motion. Okay. Then we will [inaudible] i will accept the changes. Okay. All right. Now Public Comment on the motion . Sorry about the interruption guys. Good evening. I am jonathan [inaudi...

[gavel] good afternoon and welcome to the july 28 meeting of the San Francisco Ethics Commission. I will take attendance. Chairperson mr. Hur has been excused for personal reasons and calling the other commissioners. Renne. Here. Commissioner andrews. Here. Commissioner keane. Here. Before taking Public Comment on item number 2 i just want to call everybodys attention to the fact that the regular meeting for august has been canceled, and there will be a special meeting on august 18 at 10 00 a. M...

The word we in his testimony hes attempting to influence you as being a representative from the task force when they havent authorized him to come and speak for we. Youve got to figure out how to cut him off on the mic. Commissioner keane my esteem went up for you again. Thank you for adding all three recommendations to your amended motion. I think the point of those would be to start sending a signal to other city departments that they had better start complying with the sunshine ordinance. To ...

I take it to regard to any things done in violation of any rules or regulation by these individuals who were named in the report that at some point mr. Ram would have been informed of that if the supervisor knew of it and that he would have taken some disciplinary steps . He would have informed if they felt the department wasnt in compliance or the planners werent responding in a timely fashion and to my understanding there was no knowledge of that of the supervisor at that time so in other word...

Members emails was not included in the correspondence provided to the records request, and we would contend its just a non substantive email. In fact i havent seen it so i cant speak to it. That was the crux why it got to the Sunshine Ordinance Task force. Thank you. Can i ask mr. Ringel a question . As you stand here today are there still documents that you believe that the Planning Department has not delivered to you. Absolutely. What are those they complied with the lasted search that he ment...