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Collusion conspiracy thing, i think is an important thing for all the players the who are in the orbit of this investigation. >> right. well, thats also something that the talking point neglects. the idea of saying, this went back a long way, renato, so obviously it has nothing to do with the campaign. that is a naive assumption. because the theory of the case is, well, they made relationships during that time. how did those relationships come to bear? and thats why i go back to rick gates. beca...