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Not an entity so for consistency sake. Okay. Page three line 17 multiple copies. This indicates that multiple copies of the same communication sent and we would say from the same individual to the same officer constitutes only one contact. Page five line three. The determination what constitutes the practice of law is based on an analysis. And then same page line 13. Let attorney and the ceo. We would add that attorney and the ceo have each made a contact specifying that the contact made a conta...

Of law is based on an analysis. And then same page line 13. Let attorney and the ceo. We would add that attorney and the ceo have each made a contact specifying that the contact made a contact as well. I think thats it. With those pardon me . [inaudible] for Public Comment on this issue. I just want to get the motion. Okay. Then we will [inaudible] i will accept the changes. Okay. All right. Now Public Comment on the motion . Sorry about the interruption guys. Good evening. I am jonathan [inaudi...

Second . Commissioner andrews seconds the motion. Im sorry mr. Chair i just want to say there are a couple of tiny little edits that are sort of non substantive in nature that are grammatical changes, so i guess we could either [inaudible] read them quickly, so page one line eight instead of referencing an entity we would reference a person because for a lobbyist employer thats how we designated them as a person, not an entity so for consistency sake. Okay. Page three line 17 multiple copies. Th...

Staff and the proposed regulation states that there should be an itemization of each contributor of over 100 that is given as a result of the lobbyists fundraising appeal. We suggest that the approach be taken that thats not the approach taken but the [inaudible] standard used and instead of listing each individual contributor the date is given so if you do a fundraising event and responsible for 10 people contributing 500 the event shows 5,000 from the lobbyist to the specific candidate. We bel...

I think with commissioner chow being one of five members in leadership its not apples to apples so i think it presentses a different case in this instance. This may be a question you cant answer or too difficult to answer. Was a request made by commissioner smith to write a letter of support or endorse ments and could you have . A request wasnt made and i wasnt made of that waiver request. We appreciate commissioner smiths service on the Arts Commission and we reappointed him which shows we beli...

Instead of listing each individual contributor the date is given so if you do a fundraising event and responsible for 10 people contributing 500 the event shows 5,000 from the lobbyist to the specific candidate. We believe should should be done and effectuates the policy and not over burden the requirements. The real intent of the law is ensure that the public is aware of any possible undue influence that occurs between a lobbyist and an Office Holder or candidate and that will be clearly shown ...

The issue regarding the actual way that lobbyist fundraising activity would be reported. Right now the recommendation by staff and the proposed regulation states that there should be an itemization of each contributor of over 100 that is given as a result of the lobbyists fundraising appeal. We suggest that the approach be taken that thats not the approach taken but the [inaudible] standard used and instead of listing each individual contributor the date is given so if you do a fundraising event...

Possible difficulties that have to be met i think its fairly comprehensive, and i would move it. Second . Commissioner andrews seconds the motion. Im sorry mr. Chair i just want to say there are a couple of tiny little edits that are sort of non substantive in nature that are grammatical changes, so i guess we could either [inaudible] read them quickly, so page one line eight instead of referencing an entity we would reference a person because for a lobbyist employer thats how we designated them...