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With the m.e.s testimony that heidy would have fallen after only a step or two. >> she would have gone to the ground immediately. >> reporter: your argument is she did fall down. >> exactly! >> reporter: and she fell right about here. >> yes. thats exactly what our argument is. >> reporter: according to moffat, this was not a simple mistake. is this just a case of a smalltown police department making incorrect measurements or adding up some figures wrong? >> i dont believe so. i believe that the...

Question as to whether conrad had washed his hands before they were tested. so those results were meaningless. >> thats probably why they didnt test in first place. >> reporter: as for heidys swabs, there was no residue on her left hand. but there was on her right hand. and significantly, heidy was right-handed. >> when you have gunshot residue in a location and in a quantity that is absolutely consistent with her firing a semiautomatic weapon, one of the possibilities is that she fired a gun. y...

To -- to come up with a cause of death. but in the meantime, were -- were thinking -- i would say thinking the worst. until we can disprove that its not a homicide, weve got to treat it as such. >> reporter: crime scene techs worked on toms car and took swabs for clues. while detectives set out to learn more about his movements on the day he died. linda told police the last time she saw tom was the night before, watching football. she assumed he left for the gym the following morning around 5:30...

Just seemed a physical impossibility. >> reporter: then came the results of the rape kit. >> there was no semen on the vaginal swabs and the rectal swabs. nothing that would be conclusive proof that the rape had occurred. >> reporter: and it wasnt there. >> it just wasnt there. and they tested her clothes, everything they could. all the medical personnel confirmed they did not see that kind of injury to her that would have occurred. >> reporter: there were knife cuts on her body, but -- >> they ...

Making incorrect measurements or adding up some figures wrong? >> i dont believe so. i believe that they willfully lied to secure a conviction against conrad truman. >> and for these attorneys, there were more issues with the states case. one had to do with gunshot residue tests. the defense learned police swabbed both heidy and conrads hands, but those swabs were never sent to the lab. >> when you have gunshot residue that was never tested, those things matter. >> the defense team decided to te...

Jermeir. as for his whereabouts at the time of the alleged rape? >> he actually was on the phone and didnt get off the phone until like 6:00 in the morning. we knew he was in greensboro at the time that that call was placed. so to be involved in the rape it just seemed a physical impossibility. >> reporter: then came the results of the rape kit. >> there was no semen on the vaginal swabs and the rectal swabs. nothing that would be conclusive proof that the rape had occurred. >> reporter: and it ...

Small town police department making some incorrect measurements or adding up some figures wrong? >> i dont believe so. i believe that they willfully lied to secure a conviction against conrad truman. >> and for these attorneys, there were more issues with the states case. one had to do with gunshot residue tests. the defense learned police swabbed both heidi and conrads hands but they were never sent to the lab. >> when you have gunshot residue that was never tested, those things matter. >> the ...

This. youre right about what baden said. he is casting doubt on the conclusion. he is not saying someone killed epstein. >> he is also saying that when he was there at the autopsy, the chief medical examiner that was responsible did not come to a conclusion. said that it was open and he questions what evidence was found. he also says that there is plenty of other evidence we dont foe about. for example, fingernail scaiption were taken from epstein to see if there was a struggle. they took swabs ...

>> yes. ask the attorney general is investigating the cause of death as they are doing the security on this issue. somebody should have been investigating everybody who had anything to do with the autopsy. brian: sure. ainsley: if there was a prisoner who went in and strangled him the d.n.a. is on that. >> ligature. ains the bed sheets. wouldnt it be easy to track down who that person was. >> absolutely. absolutely. thats the first thing. the medical examiner at the time of the first autopsy did...

Docs who say everyday they practice in the er, they are struggling between worrying about creating a new addict and wanting to control the pain of their patient. >> shepard: any idea in the time frame? >> were talking about probably a year to 18 months, depend on how quickly people want to say yes. here is the thing. were never going to get in front of the opiate epidemic until we can stop the supply of new addicts. 80% of all these addictions start with a medical pathway. this is one important ...