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Movement against war and death. currently, at least 13,000 people have been detained in russia for protesting the war since it began. thats according to protest monitoring group obd info. joining our conversation, william taylor. john heilemann is still here. ambassador taylor, what is the -- what do experts believe is actually getting through to russians beyond alexei navalnys many, many, many millions of supporters? but potentially, cracking into putins sort of hold on his base of support in t...