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response to covid was incompetent and ridiculous. >> remember, he said, it'll just go away. he encouraged americans to drink bleach. we came into office on the first day we got vaccines out and we made sure that we treated it in a responsible way. for the pandemic that it was and we got schools open, we got checks and people's pockets, and we got kids back in school and people back at work. >> all right. well, i obviously would like to ask you a lot more about that because i think there's a lot of complexity over the i can biden set of checks and trump's and the inflation we're facing now but cedric, i want to ask you about something that i played a few moments ago and i wanted to give you a chance to respond and the context i want to put around it is from the most recent polling, we have 23% of black voters would choose trump and two-way race between trump and biden. obviously that's an incredibly high number relative to historic elections. and nick valencia was in georgia. he was in a swing county. he saw trump

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23% of black voters would choose trump in a two-way race between trump and biden. obviously that's an incredibly high number relative to historic elections. and nick valencia was in georgia. he was in a swing county. he was saw trump flag went and knocked on the door. the woman who met met him at the door who lives there as a black voter, self-described lifelong democrat. and she now supports trump. so he asked her why, and she said this you don't care at all that he's a convicted felon now? >> nope do you understand that some people would say, you know, the justice system worked here. >> he does this ism how concerned are you about sentiments like that well, we have work to do in terms of all demographics, but in the black community, we have to make sure that we get out. >> we talked to when we knock doors and we communicate that under president biden, we reduce black child poverty by 50% that black unemployment is

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this last couple of days. tell us more about that aspect this have investigation. >> coffey county is a rural county in south georgia, very republican, this is not a swing county, this was not a very competitive county whatsoever, but what emerged after the election was that it was found that several trump -- a team of trump supporters and data analysts went down to coffey county's board of elections, they were spotted on surveillance video, the visit was captured by surveillance and they copied election sensitive voting data, election data, hours, they spent hours behind closed doors there copying that data. we expect that infiltration to be a significant part of fani willis' investigation. it's just one facet of what we expect to be rico charges that centers on trump and his plot to undermine and overturn joe biden's election victory here in georgia. >> we just saw some of the footage from coffey county just now. significant week in fulton county, georgia.

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delayed by pretrial motions. in the southern district of florida. four options. my a.m. any, ft. lauderdale, west palm beach and fort pierce. that is the venue chosen by judge cannon. this matters. it could very well impact the pool of potential jury members to decide trump's fate. the region that feeds potential jurors to the courthouse is made up of one swing county and four others that are ruby fled their political leanings and that mr. trump won by substantial margins both 2016 and 2020. joining us is barbara mblg quade.

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meaningful or not. tell us what's at stake in where, which courthouse this trial ends up in. and what does it mean in terms of the jury pool selected. >> lawrence, i'm with you. i don't think it's set yet whether the trial is going to be in fort pierce or west palm. or could be elsewhere. but i think it's gotta be in the southern district of florida. i think it helps trump to have it in fort pierce. the fort pierce jury pool consists of five surrounding counties, and it doesn't include blue, palm beach county where i am. and up to five counties, four of them are red. they went for trump. the 51 is a swing county, with the largest population, st. lucie county. trump has got a like his chances. all it takes is one trump oil iced on the jury of 12. and you've got a hung jury. i think that's his best defense. not when it comes to law, i think his goose is cooked there. but when i think it comes to jury nullification, that is his last best chance.

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whether the trial is going to be in fort pierce or west palm. or could be elsewhere. but i think it's gotta be in the southern district of florida. i think it helps trump to have it in fort pierce. the fort pierce jury pool consists of five surrounding counties, and it doesn't include blue, palm beach county where i am. and up to five counties, four of them are red. they went for trump. the 51 is a swing county, with the largest population, st. lucie county. trump has got a like his chances. all it takes is one trump oil iced on the jury of 12. and you've got a hung jury. i think that's his best defense. not when it comes to law, i think his goose is cooked there. but when i think it comes to jury nullification, that is his last best chance. i think is best chance of all in fort pierce, even better than in miami, which could be troublesome, or the prosecution, and definitely better for trump than in west palm beach.

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bucks county, a swing county outside philadelphia we're hearing a lot of what we heard in our nbc news poll, folks are concerned about biden's age. they're concerned about how the administration is doing on the economy from younger voters, i have been hearing a lot about climate. folks are worried that the administration hasn't really done enough, hasn't talked loudly enough about issues around climate change. but i want you to hear from one voter we met today, a gentleman named mo, he's an independent voter, a small business owner and he is frustrated with things as they stand right now. but i want to give a little bit of a twist to what he told me. take a listen, and then we'll talk on the other side >> i did biden i did biden. and i'm not happy with it. i did trump in 2016. i just -- i switched over because i felt like this country was losing itself. >> reporter: is there a chance that trump could win you back? >> no, for me to go republican,

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that close but as a theirett cal idea, that's possible. >> scarily, i don't want to put that into the universe but sure, it's possible. >> we've had election week in america before. >> many times. >> you were talking about, it is the magic of counting the votes, the gift of democracy that we get to count the votes. i know you view it that way. as someone who knows the state so well, when you have something like this, surprisingly high turnout. is there a county or two that you use as your own? i look at every state. there is a swing county here, a swing county there, quirky counties in some states. do you have a county or two that you watch as your own bellwethers? >> i probably look at fayette right now. the thing about most of our counties, they are pretty red or pretty blue. there is very few that are kind of a mixed bag. but you have what i call the

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run it up on election day to offset what you're seeing up here. and let's run through these. you mentioned fayette county as a swing county. or bellwether counties. at the moment, we're about half the vote count. senator warning on is at 59%. this county, herschel walker carried a month ago. what we're seeing now, this is a month ago, this is now. this is predominantly early votes. we'll see if it holds up. but just one of the places you can look. here's another one for me. jefferson county. this is a tiny county. a really small county population wise. why do i like to look at this? you have augusta and the suburbs. warnock carried this a month ago. but in the governor's race, brian kemp carried it. so one of the places that you look to in a map in a close race. >> how did warnock do a month ago? >> warning on carried that one just barely. very competitive. he gets just over 50. and the governor's race, the republican gets just over 50.

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