likely will rest today. we don't know what the defense has planned for next week. but for people not following along, how has this prosecution case opinion made so far? has it been effective? what do you expect to see from the defense? >> well, the prosecution case, willie, focused heavily on hunter biden's addiction, sometimes using his own words against him in the form of an audio version of the book he authored. what they are trying to show is that hunter biden knowingly and intentionally lied on the form he filled out when he purchased the gun, that he understood he was a habitual drug user. all these people around the time period are testifying to his drug use. the testimony was wrenching, messy. it calls up not only the sympathies of anyone who had a family member who struggled with addiction, but the messiness of family life. there is no situation messier for the bidens than the entanglement between hunter and his sister-in-law, hallie biden,
where you have people who can't even explain what trump was found guilty of but here, is actually explaining it. there's no way he's not guilty yet somehow the sympathies outpouring to him because he's not trump's to have it clear-cut even after the verdict, actually know, still does not make sense. and i think that what i noticed in this trial is that prosecutors came to play. they are really going hard at this, they are saying that they are going to make sure these charges stick and i was talking to the judge this morning, in the newsroom about if only they hadn't tried an overreach in his plea deal two years ago, this would not even be happening to them. ol. >> greg: hey, jesse. >> jesse: hey. >> greg: what he think of the argument you are seeing in social media, where the young people are, you are probably not familiar with it, the argument that the hunter trial shows you
learn the defense rely on the sympathies of some of these jurors and they may get their wish with that strategy. or they may not. how do you see it right now on day two, andy? >> well, i think nullification, bill, is obviously something if you were biden on trial in wilmington, that would certainly be a hope that you would have at the front of your list. but i don't really think, you know, hope is a strategy in litigation. so there is always the chance that you could get a jury who was sympathetic to hunter to acquit but i think there is more going on here. i think he is playing a long game that is the objective of which is to get the case reversed on appeal. the evidence that he was a user and addict of cocaine is pretty overwhelming, as you point out. most of it comes from him. he is the source of it.
mount besides the very sympathetic view of hunter biden that i think will try to be a jury nullification implicit defense in this case. >> yeah, let's talk more about that, dave, because jurors could be sympathetic to someone who has struggled with addiction, particularly someone who's been so open about it. how do lawyers handle that? >> i agree with michael, i think this is a pretty cut and dry case, perhaps the best chance that hunter biden has is through what's called jury nullification. that's where you get to the sympathies of the jury, and you have just one juror perhaps that says i can't send this guy to prison. i'm not going to go along with the prosecution, even though the evidence and the law dictates it. it's always a prosecutor's biggest fear. it's our nightmare because although they're not supposed to do that, they're supposed to follow the evidence and the law, it does happen, and they do go rogue. and yes, biden's own statements, his text messages will come back to haunt him because he did text around the time of buying the gun that he was smoking crack down the street in wilmington.
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that's so horrible. will: those were videos from yale and columbia yesterday. just a couple of quick ons sayingses. -- observations. these take place at really, honestly, some of the most far-left corners of american society. i mean, they're doing this at columbia which is already one of the places where if you wanted to find sympathies for palestinian causes, you would find it most likely at yale and columbia. they're not downing it, you know, in the middle of a suburb of dallas, texas, they're doing it right there the at a place where they have you would think a friendly audience to some extent. not at all friendly, because some jewish students are saying, hey -- pete: not even close. will: -- we don't want to show up to class. in fact, they put up a petition to move back to virtual classes. they told our own, i believe,
killing those people. will: this is recent grads at google you can see in california. where this week 28 employees were fired because they disrupted the work place they took over the cloud president's office. salt in they did learn a hard lesson by the way free speech protection by the government in public police stations not at your place of work. pete: google actually fired them. in most cases, companies allow this -- you know, we see it in the white house the letters from the jr. staffers to senior officials saying we want more support for palestinian this comes back to younger people will. it is a younger generation because of the information the ideology what they're getting in their high school and universities so numbers are changing in this country. >> lot on the screen here and point out this is where -- sympathies of younger adults lie -- and so you've got to break it down by age group here, and let's just say, support israel --
or, depending on the level of danger, _ or, depending on the level of danger, maybe to the metro station. this is— danger, maybe to the metro station. this isjust _ danger, maybe to the metro station. this isjust for the audience to realise — this isjust for the audience to realise how much this has become the daily norm _ realise how much this has become the daily norm over here in ukraine. diesei— daily norm over here in ukraine. diesei go— daily norm over here in ukraine. diesel go to the shelters even though it is repetitive and every day? though it is repetitive and every da ? ., ., , though it is repetitive and every da? ., ., ., day? not always. over the last month i onl went day? not always. over the last month i only went to — day? not always. over the last month i only went to the _ day? not always. over the last month i only went to the shelter _ day? not always. over the last month i only went to the shelter once - day? not always. over the last month i only went to the shelter once when i i only went to the shelter once when there _ i only went to the shelter once when there was— i only went to the shelter once when there was a — i only went to the shelter once when there was a really big explosion and a huge _ there was a really big explosion and a huge air— there was a really big explosion and a huge air raid alert with increased levels _ a huge air raid alert with increased levels of— a huge air raid alert with increased levels of danger being announced. it is a special— levels of danger being announced. it is a special announcement. typically, no. we will see what happens — typically, no. we will see what happens and what the military will tell us— happens and what the military will tell us to — happens and what the military will tell us to do. happens and what the military will tell us to do— tell us to do. obviously, our sympathies _ tell us to do. obviously, our sympathies for _ tell us to do. obviously, our sympathies for that. - tell us to do. obviously, our sympathies for that. it - tell us to do. obviously, our sympathies for that. it is - tell us to do. obviously, our sympathies for that. it is a l tell us to do. obviously, our- sympathies for that. it is a good illustration of what ukrainians are living with. answer the nuclear thing for me, would you? you are a country with a history of a nuclear arsenal which gave it up a peace with russia. how concerned are you
feel safe wearing the star of david on the neck. they don't feel wearing any symbols associated with their jewish faith and i talked to another student named justin he said he too feels scared when he walks through campus and they have said this is a regular s site. again since the start of the israel-hamas war. these two students very well-spoken and they say they are open to an intellectual conversation. they are open to discourse about what is going on in the middle east. one of them conveyed sympathies for the plight of palestinians but this individuals this can't happen because it is not the way to have appropriate discourse. >> sandra: cb if you could standby with this breaking news it looks like they are potentially waiting for another bus. we saw them fill five buses now but there are still students
>> in terms of the composition of iowa, the political sympathies, what can we extrapolate and apply nationally as we look ahead to election year this year. >> one of the things about the primaries, iowa is much more rural, much more christian. it's much more smaller towns as a whole. in some ways, it is difficult the to extrapolate 37 the same goes for new hampshire, where there's a history of much more independent streak. these early primary, they don't matter as much because they are a bell weather on how much voters are going to support one or the ore candidate, but they matter because of momentum. momentum is everything. if trump is able to get out to a strong lead, i think he's going