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that is what i want to come out of it. >> and you are wearing your shirt -- the i can't breathe shirt. look, lebron james has worn that shirt. this is obviously your family. this is personal to you. but what does it mean to you to wear that shirt? >> it is powerful. it feels real powerful. because it happens a lot. the fact that it happened to my uncle, it happens to a lot of people but it is such in a broad spectrum that everyone sees it now and to have everyone see this that it is powerful. >> that it is your uncle. >> his words. everyone heard his last words. when people pass, you rarely get to hear their last words unless it was a phone call or a car crashes. >> or one person hears it. >> maybe someone. but now the whole world hears his last words and that is strong. that is powerful. so i like to represent it.
can see a young african-american kid with a sweatshirt on with his hoodie on walking down the block and people would think he's up to something bad. whereas, you have a caucasian kid with the same sweat suit on and hoodie and you think he's going to play ball. you know. i mean, we don't want to feel like that, but being brought up in america, the history, [ inaudible ], it is kind of implanted in us to view it like that. >> gabriel thank you very much. and good luck tomorrow. >> yes. >> i know it will be -- as long as you bundle up. >> it will be epic. >> you better have a long sleep version of that shirt. >> i might just put this i can't breathe on my chest. i'm not sure. >> exactly. >> extreme. >> good luck to you. >> thank you for having me. >> and gabriel baez, going down tomorrow to honor his uncle eric garner. and now the criminal
i'm going to represent it and so, i can't breathe. >> so today president bill clinton talked about the protests and he said something that touches on what you said about how you feel about all of this gabriel. let me play what the president said. >> the fundamental problem you have anywhere is when people think their lives or the lives of their children don't matter, that they are somehow disposable like a paper napkin after a lunch, it just doesn't matter. and we have to -- if we want our freedom to be in deed and in word in our country, we have to make everybody feel that everybody matters again. >> and i know you talk about how you feel the power of the three words, i can't breathe and wearing the shirt for your uncle but do you understand what the president said? do you have that feeling, that there are people out there who would just look at you if you were walking down the street and not think that your life mattered? >> yeah, definitely. you have situations where you
talk about different nba players like lebron james wearing the i can't breathe shirt. eric adams told rachel maddow he is optimistic about the quality of policing improving. >> this is unbelievable what we're see right now particularly for those of us who always attempted to mutual this issue forward. when you have men on the basketball court doing this, you're going to have judges on the supreme court finally lacking at we can do better. we're better as a country than what we are seeing now and i'm optimistic. >> be sure to catch rachel's show right here on msnbc weeknights at 9:00 eastern. jonathan gruber a professor at mit made headlines yesterday after saying the stupid di of the american voter helped