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Good evening. Im mehdi hasan. The insanity defense. That is what the Trump Legal Team seems to be offering this week in the wake of Special Counsel jack smiths stunning and damning 45page indictment, excuse, me of the former president , charging him with conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction and conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy to violate rights. All charges fueled by his lies per the indictment. The trump team saying, though, he wasnt lying, he truly believed he won the election. Which, if he truly believed that, would of course be insane. But its not true, as smiths and item notes, trump was informed by members of his own campaign and legal teams that he had indeed, lost there was no massive fraud involved. Trump himself is quoted in the indictment telling mike pence after his own Vice President told him that he, mike, pence had no Constitutional Authority to reject the vote on January The 6th, quote, youre too honest. Best of all, one of t

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Transcripts For MSNBCW The 20240704

Good evening. Im mehdi hasan. The insanity defense. That is what the Trump Legal Team seems to be offering this week in the wake of Special Counsel jack smiths stunning and damning 45page indictment, excuse, me of the former president , charging him with conspiracy to defraud the United States, obstruction and conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy to violate rights. All charges fueled by his lies per the indictment. The trump team saying, though, he wasnt lying, he truly believed he won the election. Which, if he truly believed that, would of course be insane. But its not true, as smiths and item notes, trump was informed by members of his own campaign and legal teams that he had indeed, lost there was no massive fraud involved. Trump himself is quoted in the indictment telling mike pence after his own Vice President told him that he, mike, pence had no Constitutional Authority to reject the vote on January The 6th, quote, youre too honest. Best of all, one of t

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 03:16:00

think the judge is going to be very savvy litigator, a lot of experience. i think what she is going to do is instead of trying to take actions based on his [inaudible] i think she will continue to rule against him, she s going to continue to accelerate the trial date. ultimately, from my perspective, she s going to teach him ultimately that at the end of the day she is the decider and there is a real big consequence that comes if you are going to try to constantly the judges rule. i think it ll be interact, and as a result of him flaunting and going against the judges rules, i suspect he will get a speedier and speedier trial. that decision recently to deny a motion for just a three-day extension i think is a preview of what is to come. judge cordell, we have the d. a. alvin bragg prosecution of trump in manhattan. we have a possible indictment

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 03:04:00

legitimate votes and subverting the election results. see, you can speak freely as long as you are not engaged in crimes or criminal conspiracies. we all know this. conning someone out of their life savings is speech, but it s still a crime. bribing someone s speech and a crime. blackmail is speech and it is a crime. sharing state secrets with a foreign government s speech, it s also a crime. to quote a headline in the new republic this, week there is no first amendment right to organize a coup or to quote someone i would normally quote, trump s own former attorney general, bill barr. as the indictments us, they are not attacking his first amendment right. he can say whatever he wants, he can even lie, he can tell people that the election was stolen, that he knew better. but that does not protect you from entering into a

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Transcripts for MSNBC The Mehdi Hasan Show 20240604 03:19:00

i i believe all the money is mine. i believe it in my heart that the money is mine. that s, right it s my money, i m just aspiring, what are you doing? imagine if that actually works as a defense. just empty the prisons right now. any idea that we d ever watch a episode of line, order everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. we all know this. they are arguing the opposite of common. sense but the right-wing media, a place to their base. we learned with the dominion lawsuit, fox news and others on the right sometimes don t tell the truth, they tell their audience what they think their audience wants to hear. even if they are misleading them and making them dumb, or they don t care. especially what is going on. i guess my worry, dean, is that right wing media the new york times running pieces indulging the free speech argument, which i think is at stake. ronaldo, what do you make of this new talking point from trump s lawyer this morning, meet the pr

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