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Or whether he was as a campaign associate. i think theres a difference there, and we dont know that and wont know that for some time. >> but if he was as a senator, youre never not a senator, right? but if he did discuss anything in his role as a senator, would it be okay then not to list it on the security clearance form? >> i would believe so. >> all right. >> all right. so, and by the way, thats what his team is saying, that they were told, look, you dont have to do this. as a senator, you do...