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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190224:06:24:00

i ve never felt such anguish. that s still raw even now. it is because i thought i don t know. i thought i guess i was hoping he was in hiding. very fortunate that the body was discovered. now we can move on and investigate it as a homicide. tavia s hopes, crushed. police had ample proof five months after he vanished that larry had been murdered and left to rot out in the middle of nowhere. there weren t any stab wounds or any bullet holes. there were no obvious signs of larry s cause of death, so they looked further and find something very unusual. the medical examiner was able to find out the cause of death was poisoning with a horse tranquilizer. horse tranquilizer?

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190224:06:23:00

vultures were circling. he spotted the vultures so he went out to see what they were circling. investigators xavier ramos and lieutenant robert book walter worked at the san joaquin sheriff s department at the time. he thought he was going to find just some dead animal out there. but it wasn t a dead animal. the leg that was sticking out of the ground was decidedly human, and soon larry s daughter, tavia, got the news. i got the call and i felt myself get really hot and nauseous. and she said that the body they found, the dental records, it was him. and i remember i never swear and i yelled out this cuss word and i slammed the phone and i just started shaking. it was a moment in time that

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190224:06:08:00

thanksgiving. then december he was always with his family on his birthday, but still no sign of larry mcnabney. i didn t get a good feeling. and what i worried about was had something gone wrong and dad was scared and he took off? had larry offended the wrong person? tavia had a friend in law enforcement who told her you have to look at it two-way. if he s in hiegsd, he s not going to be happy you found him because obviously he s hiding for a reason. or something s happened to him. meanwhile back at the office, ginger was hearing things, worrisome things, until she just couldn t keep it in anymore. i went to the sheriff s department. i wasn t sure what to do, so i asked for a piece of paper and i slid it under the window. detectives got her note all right and figured they should have a chat with elisa mcnabney.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190224:06:25:00

yes. now, that was strange. but get this. he had been dead for an extended period of time. however, the body had not decomposed consistent with the time frame we were looking at. meaning? meaning it was preserved, kept cold. one of the first things i thought, where would they have access to a walk-in refrigerator large enough to hold a human body? detectives wanted answers, and so did larry s daughter, tavia, who sometimes believed she could hear her father in her sloo epi. i would wake up and i would hear him calling for me to help him. i didn t know what to do and i didn t understand what was going on. sometimes people get a sense of knowing either what or who was responsible. did you? i knew elisa had done something. larry s much-younger wife, elisa, she vanished a few months

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190224:06:17:00

spouses are deep down. and he said, no, i don t even know if this is who she is, if her name is what she says it is or anything. by then, said fred, larry had discovered ample reason to stop trusting elisa. he couldn t keep his wallet in his pants. he told you that? yeah. she would steal money out of his wallet. he had to hide his wallet in his own house. turned out she was also stealing from the law firm. she had ripped him off. for how much? any idea? over $100,000. larry told fred all about his troubles with elisa, and yet he kept her around, not like he hasn t divorced women before, but not this one. tavia didn t get it. i mean, he always said she has this hold over me, and i never understood what that meant. and larry s comments to fred about not knowing his wife,

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