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And poor people who cant get health care. so is that a waste? do we waste some money within that? we do. do we need to be very careful about it? we do. in the health care bill that we just passed, of course one of the major investments is to eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in the health care programs. but theyre right. its an important consideration for us. we need to go after waste, fraud and abuse. >> thats a lot easier as both of you know, said than done. if we asked you that question, congr...