price in serving our country. we can answer that question tomorrow resoundingly -- yes, absolutely! think about how generations of americans throughout our history have come together to meet the tests of their time, our parents, our grandparents, our great grandparents defended democracy. they built the great american middle class. they marched for civil rights and voting rights for workers rights and women's rights. for lgbt rights an the rights of people with disabilities. and tomorrow we face the test of our time. so remember, it's not just my name or donald trump's name on the ballot, it's the kind of
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bridges, not walls. and where we prove conclusively that yes love trumps hate. thank you. thank you so much, north carolina. god bless you. thank you all. [ cheers and applause ] >> there you have it, folks. if you can believe it this may be the last time that you hear from candidate trump and candidate clinton before one of them is president elect. welcome to our cnn special live coverage of this historic election. this is it, the big finale to the most brutal campaign in recent memory. i want to welcome our viewers here at home and around the world. i'm poppy harlow in new york. it is just past 1:00 in the morning and for hillary clinton and donald trump it is a late-night fight for every
single last vote. both candidates wrapping up duelling rallies. trump in michigan and north carolina. we have our reporters across the country and around the world for you as only cnn can do. as we count down the final hours until you go to the polls. start with phil mattingly in raleigh, north carolina. the final words, phil, love trump hate. >> here we are, the final words. it is interesting. that's a message that hillary clinton has had for a while. she shifted her message today, deliberately shifted her message today. take a listen to this. basically the point here is that hillary clinton for the last
couple of weeks has been trying to tear down donald trump and his candidacy. that stopped today. today it is about the future and looking forward in to an optimistic candidacy and how to most importantly govern should she win tonight. it's a big moment for the clinton campaign to make that shift, to transition away from the constant trump attack. it's one her advisers tell me is a deliberate choice. that's how good they feel about where they are in the race but also the recognition about how damaging the race has been and the healing process it's going to take over the next couple of weeks. poppy? >> phil, tell us about the crowd. obviously it is big, as is donald trump's crowd tonight. i saw a lot of young people. she talked a lot about college and making it tuition free. who was she trying to target tonight, trying to get undecided voters in a state that is so critical for her and in a state where the early data on the early voting there doesn't look
particularly strong for her. >> this is her second time in raleigh in five days and there's two good reasons for that. she is son the campus of nc state. the crowd is packed with college kids. we walked in and it was to capacity and there was a line 20 blocks around the campus. that's what the campaign wants to see. you nailed why. this is the purest of pure tossup states. you talk to clinton adviser and field staff. they have no idea how this will go. they feel okay about things. they felt they recovered in the early vote but this is a pure tossup that's why the message was dedicated to millennial voters today. these are the people clinton knows she needs to get out if the wants to win the state tomorrow. >> you heard the president pleading with the people of north carolina saying if you come out for clinton you will be what decides this election. >> that's right. you have seen surrogates all over the place make that point.
in florida, nevada, a number of different states, in michigan most recently. it's been here where you nailed it talking about the early vote. those numbers were not where they wanted them to be. there's a number of reasons you could say that, particularly in the african-american vote and it's worth noting. there's been a recovery in the african-american vote over the last couple of days in early voting but a lot of ground to make up. mitt romney won the state in 2012. democrats need to flip this state and need millennial and hispanic and black voters to do just that. >> it did go for president obama in 2008. as you said anything can happen h. phil mattingly live in raleigh. thank you so much. we want you to listen to part of donald trump. he just wrapped up perhaps his last campaign speech tonight in michigan. let's listen. >> michigan now stands at the cross roads of history. when you step in to that voting booth today -- it's now today,
there's one core question for you to consider -- do you want america to be ruled by the corrupt political class or do you want america to be ruled by you, the people? >> donald trump in michigan, a state that he thinks he can take out of democrats' hands. we'll see if he can do that and crack in to the blue wall. we will see tomorrow when you go to the polls. in the meantime, the first in-prn election ballots cast in the town of dixville notch. who won? it is a tradition that dates back to 1960 when voters went for kennedy so, who won? >> well, poppy, the ballots were cast. the votes were tallied. clinton getting four votes.
trump getting two. johnson getting one and one of the dixville notch residents wrote in mitt romney. so there you have it here in dixville notch, clinton is beating trump but you know, poppy, i have to point out, dixville notch is not the only town that participates in the midnight voting tradition. there is millsfield and there is a quirky law in new hampshire that says if a town has less than 100 people they can close the polls once the registered voters have voted. poppy, i'll point out that collectively in these three towns that participate in midnight voting here in new hampshire trump is beating hillary clinton. trump getting 32 votes and hillary clinton having 25. >> team clinton, rachel, paying attention to tiny dixville notch tonight, one of the advisers tweeting they like the outcome.
>> yes, tweeting out they were happy about it. i'm sorry. >> writing clinton campaign feeling very good about election day results thus far. they have a few more votes that need to be cast, though. >> that's right. he sent the tweet before those votes were tallied in harts location and millsfield. it is a coveted spot to wind, dixville notch's vote here. they are right in being proud of it but as i pointed out, trump is beating hillary right now in the polls that have been tallied on election day 2016 in new hampshire right now. >> new hampshire is again a really important state for both of them this time around. it could go either way. rachel, thank you very much. it's been leading up to this. it is officially election day in america. can you believe it? we will have every race and every result. stay with cnn until the last vote is cast. all-day live coverage today. election day in america right
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40% democratic and 38% of republicans. there was a huge surge in early voting but it also appears tore historic surge for hispanic voters, doesn't it? >> this is huge news, poppy, for the latino community. we have long expected the sleeping giant to make a difference. historic vote you are turnout not just in florida but across the country. here in florida specifically they could prove to be the most crucial -- the most critical swing state in the country. the break down here, you have older cubans who are more establishment republicans at odds with the younger cubans who could vote republican, adding to the complexities, you have thousands of newly arrived puerto ricans to the middle of the state. the i-4 corridor which is the most purple part of the state. you mentioned it has eclipsed
the number tw in 2000. putting in to context in the last 16 years, you have 3 million newly arrived residents. that has to do with historic voter turnout. they know the significance of the state and have spent a lot of time here in florida rally. hillary clinton here with joe biden and attacking this character of donald trump. both expect to went this critical state. >> they both expect and want it and need those 29 electoral votes. nick, thank you so much. let's go to pennsylvania. they are getting a lot of love in the keystone state in the final day of the 2016 election. both hillary clinton and donald trump stumping there on election eve in full get out the vote mode. there's no early voting in pennsylvania. so locking in the 20 electoral votes there comes down to today. that's why they were both there
today hillary clinton bringing with her president obama, first lady, former president clinton, her husband to the stage. and bon jovi and the boss. ♪ thunder road ♪ thunder road ♪ sara sidner is with us in philadelphia. where do i begin with those big name surrogates? who do you think made the most impact on the stage stumping for clinton? >> it's hard to say but every time michelle obama speaks she
gets this loudest cheers although her husband did as well. what you are hearing her is introducing herself to the crowd, as if they needed it and then sounds like she is trying to hand the baton over to hillary clinton hoping that hillary clinton will walk in her husband's footsteps. >> so i'm honored to be here on the stage on the eve of this historic moment. i'm also emotional because in many ways speaking here tonight is perhaps the last and most important thing that i can do for my country as first lady. let me take a moment to thank you, to thank the people of this country for giving our family the extraordinary honor of serving as your first family. >> huge cheers from the crowd but of course the clinton
campaign bringing out all of the guns, trying to make sure that people get to the polls, but trump not far behind them. he was in scranton and he's been going and burning this midnight oil to try to make sure his message gets out, even as we get in to the last few hours before the election. >> you are right five states for trump today alone and three for clinton. she is back on the plain to new york. trump heading back there, as well. tomorrow it is in the voters' hands. sar sara sidner in philadelphia. thank you for being here. let me begin with you. good morning. five states, trump's final
blitz. florida, north carolina, new hampshire, pennsylvania, many eume -- michigan, not ohio. >> he could be there right now. >> i think he ran out of daylight. he pushed it about as hard as he could. i am shocked by the schedule they both kept. i think i'm in good shape and i'm not sure i could have kept the schedule they have kept the last year. >> sally, hillary clinton did a radio interview and here's what she said whether or not she plans to speak to trump tonight. listen. >> i will certainly expect to speak with him. i hope that he will, if i am successful, play a constructive role in doing just what i said,
coming together, bringing people who supported him to the table sally you want clinton to win. regardless of who wins tonight, to be a fly on the wall, to listen to that conversation, what do you hope it is like? >> i have to tell you, i spent the last couple of days around philadelphia with my family and my daughter. we did some door knocking to get her involved in democracy and teach her what is at stake. she is a way bigger hillary clinton supporter than i ever was and it was a tremendous, wonderful experience for the most part. i have to tell you the last day we were there, we were in a purple area of the philadelphia suburbs and, you know, not because we were just going about knocking on the doors we were told to knock but we had about five or six trump supporters approach us, approach our group with eight kids, six adults and,
you know, yell at us. yell at us about how can we support pro-abortion candidate. she's a sinner. how can we support this crook. she's crooked. in front of our kids. i have to tell you having done this before in previous elections, i've never seen that level of animosity, hostility, anger, vitriol. >> you hope the candidates won't be like that. >> i hope that if trump loses, by the way, if not i'm popping xanax. if it comes to that, if he is conceding i hope he is doing it in a gracious way that says, look some of the anger, hostility, i contributed to, i'm going to now heal. i'm going to take an actual leadership responsibility for once in this election and i'm going to put an end to that kind of anger.
>> let's listen to the president. we heard from the first lady. let's listen to president obama in philadelphia. >> i'm betting that men across this country will have no problem voting for the more qualified candidate who happens to be a woman. i'm betting that african-americans will vote in big numbers because this journey we have been on was never about the color of the president but the content of his or her character. i'm betting that america will reject politics and resentment, the politics of blame and choose the politics that says we are stronger together. >> taking from martin luther king jr. 56% approval right now for him. michelle obama very well liked. how much do you think, if she wins, if clinton wins the obamas in this final push have moved the needle? >> very important.
obviously the final days as the polls have gotten narrower in many of the battleground states has turned to the issue of turnout. hillary clinton has had trouble with younger voters and african-american voters. whereas i think president obama brings a kind of fire power. >> 17 times he has campaigned for her. that is unheard of for a sitting president. >> closest was reagan and bush in '88 but even that was more tepid. usually incumbent presidents are saddled with either some scandal baggage or unpopular like president bush was in 2008. so they are away from the campaign trail. that's not been the case. almost as if he is running. >> aside from stumping until 1:00 in the morning, the candidates are making their message heard in the final hours. clinton and trump released these ads two minutes long but very different. here's a clip of both of them.
>> look, we all know. we have come through some hard economic times and seen some big changes, but i believe in our people. i love this country. i'm convinced our best days are still ahead of us if we reach for them together. >> the political establishment as brought about the destruction of our factories and our jobs as they flee to mexico, china and other countries all around the world. the only thing that can stop this corrupt machine is you. >> so overall clinton had a more positive tone. donald trump saw a little at though end there but more positive and focused on progress. what do you make of the strategies in the final hour. >> clinton has had so many negative ads. most using trump's own words against him. by releasing this two-minute, much more positive ad tonight, a couple of hours ago, clinton trying to create a more positive
energy and a reck sill toir energy, as well. donald trump said his last ad is positive. it's a bleak message about the political establishment, the global power structure. he's promising to take pow per back on behalf of the american people. he is taking his own speech and running it in these commercials. listening to your panel talk about the experience, the fear around this election, though, this is exposed some uncomfortable truths about america. donald trump and hillary clinton did not create this hyper polarization we live in. they can choose to make it worse or better later today. >> people want more time. they will get more time. i have to get a break in here. coming up for us, the entire world waiting for the outcome of america's election. many people, especially in mexico. that is wherelav
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no puppet. >> that wall is getting taller with every interview. getting taller, taller. it's getting up there, i'll tell you what. >> with me live tonight in mexico city ed is ed. in mexico you have to look no further than the currency, the peso to see how anxious people are about the election. >> from rich to poor this this country people are paying attention for that reason. there's been a great deal of fluctuation with the value of the mexico peso compared to the u.s. dollar. that has been very much connected in many ways to the fate of donald trump and this election. back on sunday, when the announcement by the fbi that it
would not pursue charges against hillary clinton and the case was closed the value of the peso jumped up 2% in the aftermath of all of that. despite all of that, the economic concerns of what it means when you talk to people on the streets of the city over and over, to a person, everyone says they have been severely insulted by what they view as racist and xenophobic speech coming from donald trump. in many ways they view he catapulted himself to the top of the republican field by maligning and insulting mexican immigrants an the mexican country. a lot of anger toward donald trump. >> walk i through the sentiment of the russian people on the eve of this election. especially given the tension in in the past few weeks, really increasing between the white house and the kremlin.
the white house pointing the finger at the kremlin and putin saying you have meddled in this election. >> extraordinary the extent to which russia has become a campaign issue in this presidential race over hacking and various issues, as well, the links with donald trump and russia allegedly. the kremlin officially, position is they don't have any skin in the game. for the the american people to decide. if you watch state media controlled by the kremlin you get a message that there is one candidate they prefer over the other and it is quite clearly donald trump and they see him as somebody who shairs a russian world view on various issues, nato for instance, syria and support for assad there. and the kremlin-controlled media has taken a one-sided approach to covering this u.s. election. of course that is ordinary people, as well.
their favorite candidate, as a result of that, is donald trump. >> we will watch the reaction there, as well after the votes are tallied here. matthew chance, live in moscow, thank you so much. u.s. security teams are watching for signs that russia or any other foreign actor or hackers may try to interfere with election day through cyberattacks. sources say right now there are no known cyberthreats that would likely effect voting or the vote count. >> thank you for joining me. >> good to be with you. >> you told my colleague jake tapper this week that russia is capable of "doing damage" in this election. in the last 24 hours, have you heard of any credible cybcybe cyber threats, voter registration, location news, anything that could affect the outcome of this election?
>> you know, i haven't heard anything in the last 24 hours, but we the reality we have seen russian meddling in the election for months now. it takes no leap of faith they can continue and likely will continue to interfere. it may not be on election day, although they have potential to cause mischief on election day but i think we can expect whoever wins the election they will continue to hack and dump information if they think they can weaken the u.s. president. unless we establish a strong deterrent we are likely to see more of this from russia. we appear to have dodged a bullet. that's one of the things that concerned me up to this point is that russia was going to start to do what they have been doing in europe and that is not only hacking and dumping documents but massively forging information. that would have been difficult to prove a forgery in the last few days of the campaign. we may have dodged that bullet,
but i think we are likely to see continued -- >> there is a rigged system, folks. >> totally rigged. >> absolutely rigged a crooked system. >> issue of voter fraud. >> do you believe that russia and putin have already scored a victory in this election before a seingle vote has been counted some early votes in but by making americans less confident in the system as a whole? >> i think they have in part achieved that objective by giving americans less confidence in the result by sowing dischord. so yes they have accomplished some of their objectives.
i think it is important for me american people to realize part of the reason they have been able to do this is because they have had a willing party in donald trump. if we had a typical election where the republican standard bearer shared the views about concern of the nature of the russian government, and spoke out against russian hacking rather than inviting further hacking it would be more difficult for the russians if you didn't have someone saying the election is rigged and all of this thing. that has so played in to russian hands. it is has amplified the mischief the russians wanted to create. >> as you know the way that pump puts it in response to what you are arguing he said wouldn't it be a good thing if the united states got along with russia. if there was a stronger relationship between the white house and the kremlin. he said that would be more productive than what he points to as a failed russian reset on
the part of hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. your response to that? >> my response is would it be nice, sure it would be nice but that is fantasy land. this is someone who invaded his neighbor, seized crimea. he does expect if he says something nice to putin he will leave ukraine, 0 or stop bombing civilians in aleppo, yi don't think that will happen. stop bombing nato aircraft, i don't think that will happen. so we have tried to establish a productive relationship with russia. they are not interested. part of what putin believes is in order to drive up his popularity domestically he needs a bad guy to be against and the united states is that bad guy. frankly, i think trump is naive to think that a few kind words on his part will change that. i don't think that any commander in chief of the united states should be prepared to, as trump
suggested, recognize russia's illegal annexation of crimea. >> as you point out, russia and putin have plenty of problems domestically, especially when it comes to russia's economy and what it means for their citizens. before i let you go, the white house has vowed the u.s. will respond to russian hacks but haven't made clear of how or when. you said unless russia pays a high price they will continue to meddle in u.s. affairs. i wonder from your perspective and where you sit, on the intelligence review, what should that retaliation look like, sanctions, counter hack, what would be most effective? what would putin listen to? >> i think what would get the kremlin's attention is if we work with countries in europe that have been the subject of similar meddling by russia and we impose additional sanctions on russia. their economy is their weakest point. a discussion of sanctions sets
putin off. so plainly they are sensitive to additional economic pain and i would couple that with a cyberresponse so putin understands and it doesn't have to be something made public but putin understands he is vulnerable, too. this is no free lunch for the kremlin and if they are going to meddle this way they could be exposed in ways that could be bad for putin. i think in a overt and covert way we should respond. >> thank you for being with me tonight. >> pleasure. thank you. it's election day. 1:40 in the morning on election day. you are excited. you can't sleep. we're not sleeping. why bother trying to sleep? stay right here. coming up in our live special election coverage next. >> i'm going to be the greatest jobs president that god ever created. >> there's only one of us on
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ben, are these predictions too dire? i mean, the u.s. economy has been through a lot. dare i say the fundamentals of the economy are strong? can i say that, harkening back to john mccain? but are these predictions too dire? >> way too dire. if the economy is extremely strong. and by the way, citi group doesn't have a crystal ball of predicting the future of stocks, neither dois deutsche bank. mr. trump's claim he is going to be the greatest creator of jobs god has ever created is non-sense. there is nothing in his proposal he has set forth that would lead anybody to believe that. nobody believes that, but god bless him any way: but the main thing is the economy is rather strong. people have dropped out of the
labor force, and neither of the candidates has a good idea on how to get people back into the ligament force. >> there are good numbers out there. but ben makes the exact important point that those numbers don't for the people most this need, those are people who have been out of work so long they have given up looked. they are not even counted. when you look at the reality of this situation how helpful is a report like this for clinton? >> only to the extent it's been covered in a way to suggest that the economy and labor markets in particular are doing well. i think obviously the bigger concern sufficient got people as you have note who had dropped out of the labor force. you have got people in part-time work but want full-time work. so the measure of how the labor market is doing jenlely is not as rosie. big issue going forward is two candidates, both who put out
policies that could be problematic. on the trump end you have got policies that would restrict immigration and restrict trade. on the clinton side it's unclear whether she would address the debt and the debt load going forward causes problems as well. >> when you look at the tax plans, they say ben stein that hillary clinton's plan, when it comes to taxes would reduce the national debt by $5.4 trillion in 20 years. trumps would add $20 trillion over 20 years. look, your concern is -- do you like anything about trump's tax plan more than clinton's even if you are not a fan of the candidate? >> yes, i do. i like the idea of reducing the corporate tax. there shouldn't be corporate tax at you will. it should be taxed to the owner of the corporation not taxed a
the corporate level. and i like repealing the estate tax because i'd like my son and graun daughter to get as much as possible. but i don't think there is anything going on in trump's tax plan that's going to lead to a growth in jobs. i i'm sure he want a big growth in jobs. there is nothing going on that's going to lead to that. and nothing in mrs. clinton's tax plan that is going to lead to a growth in jobs. we have a fall in freight movement. that's a worrisome sign. corporate profits have been falling steadily for the last several quarters. i would like to have somebody address what we are going to do if there is a recession. >> it is a important point. this has been a bull run for the markets. over seven years. if history is a indicator, then ben stein may be right that we are on the cusp of another recession? >> yeah, and i don't think either candidate really has come
out to address that particular issue. i mean it keeps clear that hillary clinton would pursue fiscal stimulus similar to what he we saw in the first year of president obama's term. donald trump, it's unclear exactly what he would do because a lot of his policy has been fuzzy. but obviously, the economy, i think, is -- while it has done better over these last several quarters i think it's still in a fragile state going forward. this is something unquestionably the next president is going to have to deal with. >> ben stein, do you believe that this election, regardless who wins is the death knell for the big global trade greechlts, trump says he would rip up nafta, hillary clinton liked tpp until it wasn't the gold standard until she was pushed a lot by the left. she said it was when she read the final draft, is the the end of the global agreements now in
that sometimes sets americans against one another and instead make big goals and i've set forth some big goal, getting the economy to work for everyone, not just those at the top. making sure we have the best education system from preschool to college and making it affordable and so much else. if we set those goals and go together to try to achieve them, there's nothing in my opinion that america can't do. so that's why i hope that we will come together in this campaign. obviously, i'm hoing to earn your vote, hoping to be b elected in november and i can promise you, i will work with every american. i want to be the president for all americans. regardless of your political beliefs, where you come from, what you look like, your religion. i want us heal our country and bring it together. our children and grandchildren deserve. >> thank you. you have two minutes.
>> well, i actually agree with that. i agree with everything she said. i began this campaign because i was so tired of seeing such foolish things happen to our country. this is a great country. a great land. i've gotten to know the people of the country over the last year and a half that i've been doing this as a politician. i cannot believe i'm saying that about myself, but i guess i have been a politician and my whole concept was to make america great again. when i watch the deal being made, some horrible things like obamacare, health insurance and health care is going up my numbers that are astronomical, 68%, 71%, when i look at the iran deal and how bad a deal it is for us. it's a one sided transaction. where we're giving back $150 billion to a terrorist state really the number one terror
state, we've made them a strong country from really a very weak country from just three years ago. when i look at all of the things that i see in all of the potential that our country has, we have such tremendous potential. whether it's in business and trade, where we're doing so badly. last year, we had almost $800 billion trade deficit. other words, trading with other countries. we had an $800 billion deficit. it's hard to believe. inconceivable. we're going the make great deals. have a strong border m going to bring back law and order. just today. policemen was shot. two. killed. and this is happening on a weekly basis. we have to bring back respect to law enforcement. at the the same time, we need the take care of people on both sides. we need justice. but i want to do things that haven't been done, including fixing and making inner cities better for african-american sit sebs and for the latinos,
hispanics and i look forward to doing make america great again. >> thank you, mr. trump. the question from patrice was are you both modeling president obamative and appropriate behaviors for today's youth. we refed a lot of questions about the tape released on friday. you called what you said locker room banter, kissing women without consent, grabbing their genitals. that is sexual assault. you bragged that you have sexually assaulted women. >> i don't think you understood. this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i apologize to my family. to the american people. certainly i'm not proud of it. but this is locker room talk. when we have a world where you have isis chopping off heads, where you have frankly drowning people in steel cages, wars and horrible, horrible sights all over, so many bad things happening.
we haven't seen anything like this. the carnage all over the world. can you imagine the people that are frankly doing so well against us with isis. and they look at our country and see what's going on. yes, i'm very embarrassed by it. i hate it. but it's locker room talk and it's one of those things. i will knock the hell out of isis. we're going to defeat isis. isis happened a number of years ago in a vacuum left because of bad judgment and i will tell you, i will take care of isis. >> so, mr. trump -- >> get on to much more important things and much bigger things. >> for the record, are you saying what you said on the bus 11 years ago that you did not kiss women without consent or grope women without consent. >> i have great respect for women. nobody has more respect for women than i do. >> so, you're saying you never did that. >> i said things that frankly, you hear these things. and i was embarrassed by it.
but i have tremendous respect for women. >> have you ever done those thing sns. >> no, i have not. i will tell you, that i'm going the make our country safe. we're going to have borders in our country, which we don't know. people are pouring into our country and coming in from the middle east and other places. we're going to make america safe again. make america great again, but safe again. and we're going to make america wealthy again because if you don't do that, it just, it soupds harsh to say, but we have to i would build up the wealth. >> thank you, mr. trump. >> other naxs are taking our jobs and wealth. >> secretary clinton, do you want to respond? >> well, like everyone else, i spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hour about what we heard and saw. you know, with prior republican nominees, for president, i disagreed with them. politics, policies, principles. but i never questioned their fitness to serve.
donald trump is different. i said starting back in june, that he was not fit to be president and commander in chief. and many republicans and independents have said the same thing. what we all saw and heard on friday was donald talking about women. what he thinks about women. what he does to women. and he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. but i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly what he is. because we've seen this throughout the campaign. we have seen him insult women. we've seen him rate women. on their appearance. ranking them from one to ten. we've seen him embarrass women on tv and on twitter.
we saw him after the first debate spend nearly a week denigrating a former miss universe in the harshest, most personal terms, so, yes, this is who donald trump is. but it's not only women and it's not only this video that raises questions about his fitness to be our president. because he has also targeted immigrants, african-americans, latinos, people are ddisability muslims and others, so, this is who donald trump is and the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. that's why to go back to your question, i want to send a message we all should. to every boy and girl and indeed to the entire world.
that america is great and we are great because we are good and we will respect one another. and we will work with one another and we will celebrate our diversity. these are very important values to me because this is the america that i know and love. and i can pledge to you tonight that this is the america that i will serve if i'm so fortunate enough to become your president. >> and we want to get to some questions -- >> am i allowed to respond to that? >> yes. >> it's just words, folks. just words. those words i've been hearing them for many years. i heard them when they were running for the senate. in new york. where hillary was going to bring back jobs to upstate new york and she faileded. i've heard them where hilly is constantly talking about the inner cities of our country, which are a disaster. educationwise. jobwise.
safetiwise. in every way possibleful i'm going to help the african-americans, help the latinos hispanics. i am going to help the inner cities. she's done a terrible job for the african-americans. she wants their votened does nothing and then comes back four years later. we saw that firsthand when the united states senator. she campaigned where the -- >> mr. trump, mr. trump -- i want to get to audience questions and online questions. >> so, she's allowed to do that, but i'm not allowed to respond. >> sounds fair. >> this tape is generating intense interest. in just 48 hour, it's become the single most talked about story of the entire 2016 lech on facebook with millions and millions of people discussing it on social met network. as we said, we want to bring in questions from voters around country via social media and our first on this topic, jeff from ohio asks on facebook, trump
says the campaign has changed him. when did that happen? so, mr. trump, let me add to that. when you walked off that bus at age 59, were you a different man or did that behavior continue until just recently? and you have two minutes for this. zwl that was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i am a person who has great respect for people, for my family, for the people of this country. and certainly, i'm not proud of it but that was something that happened. if you look at bill clinton, far worse, mine are word, his was action. his was he has done to women. never been anybody in theory of politics in this nation that's been so abusive to women, so you can say any way you want to say it, but bill clinton was abusive to women. hillary clinton attacked those same women and attacked them viciously. four of them here tonight.
one of the women who is a wonderful woman at 12 years old, was raped at 12. her client, she represented got him off and she's seen laughing at the girl who was raped. she is here with us tonight, so, don't tell me about words. aam absolutely, i apologize for those words. but it is things that people say, but what president clinton did, he was impeached, lost his license to practice law. he had to pay an $850,000 fine. to one of the women. paula jones, who's also here tonight. and i will tell you that when hillary brings up a point like that and talks about words that i said 11 years ago, i think it's disgraceful and i think she should be ashamed of herself, if you want to know the truth.
>> can we please hold the applause. secretary clinton. >> first, let me say so much of what he just said is not right, but he gets to run his campaign any way he chooses. he gets to decide what hemts to talk about. instead of answering people's questions, laying out the plaps we have than make a better life and a better country. that's his choice. when i hear something like that, i am reminded of what my friend, michelle obama, advised us all. when they go low, you go high. and look, if this were just about one video, maybe what he's saying tonight would be understandable, but everyone can draw their own conclusions at this point about whether or not the man in video or on the stage
respects women. but he never apologizes for anything to win. he never apologized to mr. and main street kahnt gold star family, whose ston died in the line of duty in remark and donald insulted and attacked them for weeks over their religion. he never apologized to the distinguished federal judge who was born in indiana, but donald said he couldn't be trusted to be a judge because his parents were quote mexican. he never apologized to the reporter that he mimicked and mocked on national television. and our children were watching. and he never apologized for the racist lie that president obama was not born in the united
states of america. he owes the president an apology. he owes our country and apology and he needs to take responsibility for his actions and words. >> well, you owe the president an apology because as you know very well, your campaign sidney blumenthal, another real winner that you have and he's the one that got this started along with your campaign manager and they were on television just two weeks ago, she was, saying exactly that. so, you really owe him an apology. you're the one that sent the pictures around your campaign. sent the pictures around with president obama, long before i was involved. number two, michelle obama. i've gotten to see the commercials that they did on you. and i've gotten to see some of the most vicious commercials i've ever seen of michelle obama talking about you, hillary. so, you talk about friend, go back and take a look at those commercials.
a race where you lost fair and square. unlike the bernie sanders race, where you won, but not fair and square, in my opinion. all you have to do is take a look at wick ki leaks and see what they say about sanders and see what wasserman schultz had in mind. never had a chance. i was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil, but when you talk about apology, i think the one you should really be apologizing for and this thing you should be apologizing for are the 33,000 e-mails that you deleted and that you acid washed and then the two boxes of e-mails and other things last week taken from an office and are now missing. i'll tell you whark i didn't think i'd say this and i'm going to say it and hate to say its. if i win, i'm going to instruct the attorney general to get a
special prosecutor to look into your situation because there's never been so many lies, so much deception. never been anything like it and we're going to have a special prosecutor. when i speak, i go out and speak, the people of this country are furious. in my opinion, the people that have been long-term workers at the fbi are furious. there has never been anything like this, where e-mails and you get a subpoena and after getting the subpoena, you delete 33,000 e-mails and then acid watch them or bleach them. a very expensive process, so we're going to get a special prosecutor because people have been, their lives have been destroyed for doing one fifth of what you've done. and it's a disgrace and honestly, you ought to be ashamed. >> let me just talk abts e-mails because everything he just said is absolutely false. but i'm not surprised.
and the first debate, and -- >> the audience needs to calm down here. >> i told people it would be impossible be fact checking dolgd all the the time. i'd never get to talk about anything i want to do or how we're going to make lives better for people. so go to hillary clinton.com. you can fact check him in realtime, last time at the first debate, we had millions of people fact checking, so expect we'll have millions more fact checking. it's just awfully good that someone with the temperment of donald trump is not in charnlg of the law of our country. >> because you'd be in jail. >> we want to remind the audience to please not -- talk out loud. please do not applaud. you're just wasting time. >> you've said your handing of
your e-mails was a mistake. you disagreed with james comey, calling it quote extremely careless. the fbi said there were 110 e-mails. eight of which were top secret and it was possible hostile actors did gain access. you don't call that extremely careless? >> i'll repeat it because i want everyone to hear it. that was a mistake and i take responsibility. for using a personal e-mail account. obviously, if i were to do it over again, i would not. i'm not making any excuses. it was a mistake. and i am very sorry about that. but i think it's also important to point out where there are some misleading accusations from critics and others. after a year long investigation, there is no evidence that anyone hacked the server i was using
and no evidence that anyone can point to at all anyone who says otherwise has no basis. that any classified material ended up in the wrong hands. i take classified materials very soorsly and always have when i was on the senate armed services committee, i was privy to a lot of classified material. obviously, as secretary of state, i had some of the most important secrets that we possess such as going after bin laden so i am very committed to taking classified information seriously. there is no evidence that any classified information ended up in the wrong hands. >> and yet, she didn't know the word the letter c on a document. right? she didn't even know what that letter meant. you know, it's amazing. i'm watching hillary go over facts.
and she's going after fact after fact and lying again. because she said she you know, what she dwid the e-mail was fine. you think it was fine? i don't think so. she said that 33,000 e-mails had to do with her daughter's wedding, number one and a yoga class. maybe we'll give three or four or five. 33,000 e-mails deleted and now, she's saying there wasn't anything wrong more importantly, that was after getting the subpoena. got it from the united states congress and i'll p honest, i am so disappointed in congressmen. including republicans. for allowing this to happen. our justice department, where our husband goes on to the back of a plane for 39 minutes, talks to the attorney general, days before a ruling is going to be made on her case, but for you to say that there was nothing wrong with you deleting 39,000 e-mails, again, you should be ashamed of yourself. what you did and this is after
getting a subpoena from the united states congress. >> we have to move on. secretary clinton, you can respond. >> we want to give the audience a chance here. >> let alone after getting a subpoena from the united states government. >> clinton, you can respond. we have to move on to an audience question. >> look, it's just not true, so please -- >> you didn't delete them? >> allow her to respond, please. >> 33,000. >> not, well, we turned over 35 thourk, so -- >> what about the other 15,000? >> please allow her to respond. she didn't talk while you talked. >> yes, that's true, i didn't. in the first debate and i'm going to try not to in this debate because i'd like to get to the questions. >> get off this question. >> okay, donlgd, i know you're into big diversion tonight, anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it's exploding and the way republicans are leaving you. >> see what happens -- >> the issues that people care about tonight.
>> we have a question from ken. about hello care. >> i'd like to know why aren't you bringing up the e-mails? it hasn't been finished. >> ken has a question. >> nice to one on three. >> thank you. >> affordable care act known as obamacare, it is not affordable. premiums have gone up. deductibles have gone up. copays have gone up. prescriptions have gone up and the coverage has gone down. what will you do to bring the cost down, and make coverage better? >> that first one goes to secretary clinton because you started out the last one to the audience. >> he wants to start. he can start. go ahead, donald. >> no, i'm a gentlemen, go ahead. >> secretary clinton. zpl well, i think he was abt to say he's going to solve it by repealing it and getting rid of the affordable care act and i'm
going to fix it. because i agree with you. premiums have gotten too high. copay, deductibles, prims drug costs and i've laid out a series of anchors we can take to try to get thoez coses down. here's what i don't want people to forget when we talk about rainging in the cost. when the affordable care act passeded, it wasn't just a tha 20 million got insurance who didn't have it before. that was a good thing. i meet these people all the time and they tell in what a difference it meant having that. but efrk else, the 170 million of of us who goat get insurance through our employees, got big benefits. number one, insurance companies can't deny you coverage because of a preexisting condition. number two, no lifetime limits. which is a big deal in you have serious hello problems. number three, women can't be
charged more than men for health insurance, which is the way it used to be. number four, if you're under 26, and your parents have a policy, you can be on at policy until the 26. so i want very much to save what works and is good about the affordable care act, but we've got to get costs down. we've got to provide additional help to small businesses. to know that they can afford to provide health insurance. but if we repeal it as donald has proposed and start over again, all of those benefits are lost to everybody. not just people who get their health insurance on the exchange. and then we would have to start all over again. right now, we are at 90% health insurance coverage. that's highest we've ever been in our country. zpl your time's aup. >> i want us to get 100% and keep costs down and quality up.
>> you have two minutes. >> it is such a great question and maybe the question i get almost more than anything else. outside of defense. obamacare is a disaster. you know it. we all know it. it's going up at numbers that nobody's seen worldwide. nobody's ever seen numbers like this for health care. only gets worse. in 17, implodes by itself. their method of fixing it is to go back and ask congress for more and more money. we have almost $20 trillion in debt. obamacare will never work. it's very bad. very bad health insurance. far too expensive. and not only expensive for the person that has it, unbelievably expensive for our country. one of the biggest line items very shortly. we have to repeal it. and replace it. with something absolutely much less expensive. and something that works.
where your plan can actually be tailored. we have to get rid of the lains around the state. artificial lines, where we stop insurance companies from coming in and competing because they want and president obama and whoever was working on it, they want to leave those lines because that gives the insurance companies essentially monopolies. we want competition. you'll have the finest health care plan there is. she wants to go to a single payer plan, which would be a disaster. somewhat similar to canada. if you've noticed the canadians, when they need a big operation, they come into the united states in many cases, because their system is so slow. it's catastrophic in certain ways. but she wants to go to single payer, which means the government basically rules everything. hillary clinton has been after this for years. obamacare was the fist step. obamacare is a total zas e and not only are your rates going up by numbers nobody's believed,
but your deductibles are going up so unless you get hit be by a truck, you're never going to be able to use it. it is a disastrous plan and has to be repealed. and replaced. >> your husband called obamacare quote, the craziest thing in the world. small business owners are getting killed, coverage is cut in half. was he mistaken or simply telling the truth. >> he claire iffed and it's clear. look, we are in a situation in our country, where if we were to startal over again, we might come up with a different system. but we have an employer based system. that's where the vast majority of people get their health care. and the affordable care act was meant to try to fill the gap between people who were too poor and couldn't put together any resources to afford health care, namely, people on medicaid. obviously, medicare, which is a single payer system. which takes care of our eilidh rly and does a great job doing
it, by the way, aend then all of the people who were employeed. but people who were working, but didn't have the money to afford insurance and didn't have anybody, an employer, anybody else to help them. that was the slot that the obama care approach was to take. and like i say, 20 million people now have health insurance. so, if we just rip it up and throw it away, what donald's not telling you is we just turn it back to the insurance companies the way it used to be and that means the insurance companies get to do pretty much whatever they want, including saying look, sorry, you've got die beat, you had cancer, your child hads asthma. you may not be able to have insurance because you can't afford it, so let's fix what's broken about it, but let's not throw it away and give it back to the insurance companies. that's not going to work. >> mr. trump -- >> first of all, hillary, everything's broken about it. everything. number two, bernie sanders said hillary clinton has very bad judgment.
this is a perfect example of it. >> mr., you've said you want to end obamacare and make coverage accessible for people with preexisting conditions. how do you force insurance companies to do that if you're no longer mandating -- what does that mean? >> i'll tell you. you're going to have plans that are so good because we're going to have some competition. once we break out the lines and allow the competition to come. >> are you going to have a mandate that americans have to have health insurance? >> president obama by keeping those ryan lines and it was almost gone until just right toward the end of the passage of obamacare, which was a froud. you know that, because jonathan grouper, the architect of obamacare, said it was a great lie. it was big lie. president obama said you keep your plan, the whole thing was a froud and it doesn't work. when we get rid of those lines,
you have competition and we'll be able to keep preexisting and help people that can't get, don't have money because we are going to have people protected. and republicans feel this way. believe it or not and strongly this way. we're going to block grant. into the states. block grant into medicaid. so we will be able to take care of people without the necessary funds to take care of themselves. >> thank you. >> now a question for both candidates. >> there are 3.3 muslims in the united states and i'm one of them. you've mentioned working with muslim nations, but with islamophobia on the rise, how will you help people like me deal with the consequences of being a threat to the country after the election is over. >> mr. trump. >> you're right about islamophobia and that's a shape. one thing we have to do is we have to make sure that because
there is a problem. whether we like it or not and we could be very politically correct, but whether we like it or not, there is a problem and we have to be sure that muslims come in and report when they see something going on. when they see hatred going op, they have to report it. in san bernardino, many people saw the bombs all over the apartment of the two people that killed 14 and wounded many, many people. horribly wounded. never be the same. muslims have to report the problems when they see them. and you know, there's always a reason for everything. if they don't do that, it's a very difficult situation for our country because you look at orlando. and you look at san bernardino and the world trade center. look at paris. the horrible, these are radical islamic terrorists. and she won't even mention the word and nor will president obama. he won't use the term radical islamic terrorism.
now, to solve the problem, you have to be able to state what the problem is or at least say the name. she won't say the name and president obama won't say the name. but the name is there. it's radical islamic terror and before you solve it, you have to say the name. >> secretary clinton. >> thank you for asking. your question and i've heard this question from a lot of muslim americans across u our country. because unfortunately, there's been a lot of very devicive, dark things said about muslims. and even someone like the young man who sacrificed himself defending our country from the united states army has been subject to attack by donald. i want to say just a couple of things. first, we've had muslims in america since george washington. and we've had many successful muslims.
we just lost a particular well-known one with mohammed ali. my vision of america is an america where everyone has a place. if you're willing to work hard, you do your part, you contribute to the community. that's what america is. that's what we want america to be for our children and grandchildren. it's also very short sided and even dangerous. to be engaging in the kind of rhetoric that donald has about muslims. we need american muslims to be part of our eyes and ears on our front lines. i've worked with a lot of different muslim groups around america. i've met with a lot of them an heard how important it is for them to feel they are wanted and included and part of our country, part of our homeland security and that's what i want to see. it's also important i intend to defeat isis. to do so, in a coalition with majority muslim nations.
right now, a lot of those nations are hearing what dolgd says and wondering why should we cooperate with the americans and this is a gift to isis and the terrorists. violent jihadist terrorist. we are not at war with islam. and it is a mistake and it plays into the hands of the terrorists to act as though we are. so, i want a country where citizens like you and your family are just as welcome as anyone else. >> thank you, secretary clinton. >> mr. trump, in december, you said this. donald j. trump is call for a total an complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until we can figure out what the hell is going on. we have no choice. we have no choice. your running mate said this week that the muslim ban position. is that correct? and if it is, was it a mistake to have a religious test?
>> first of all, captain kahn is an american hero and if i were president at this time, he would be alive today because unlike her, who voted for the war without knowing what she was doing, i would not have had our people in iraq. iraq was disaster. so, he would have been alive today. the muslim ban is something that in some form has morphed into a extreme vetting. from certain areas of the world. hillary clinton wants to allow >> and why did it morph into that? answer the question. do you still believe -- i do. >> why don't you interrupt her? >> would you please ek plain whether or not the ban still stands? >> it's called extreme vetting. we are going to areas like syria. where they're coming in by the tens of thousands because of barack obama. and hillary clinton wants to
allow a 550% increase over obama. people are coming into our country like we have no idea who they are. where they are from. what their feeling about our country is and she wants 550% more. this is going to be the great trojan horse of all time. i believe in building safe zones, in having other people pay for them as an example, the gulf states who are not carrying their weight, but have nothing but money, and take care of peechl but i don't want to have with all t problems this country has and all of the problems that you see going on, hundreds of thousands of people coming in from syria when we know nothing about them. we know nothing about their values and we know nothing about their love for our country. >> and secretary clinton, let me ask you about that. because you have asked for an increase from ten to 65,000 syrian refugees. we know you want tougher vetting. that's not a perfect system.
so, why take the risk of having those refugees come in to the country? >> first of all, i will not let anyone into our country that i think poses a risk to us. but there are a lot of refugees, women and children, think of that picture we all saw of that 4-year-old boy with the blood on his forehead because he had been bombed by the russian and syrian air forces. there are children suffering in this catastrophic war. largely i believe because of russian aggression. and we need to do our part. we by no means are carrying anywhere near the load that europe and others are. but we will have vetting that is as tough as it needs to be from our professionals, our intelligence experts and others. but it is important for us as a policy, you know, not to say as
donald has said, we're going to ban people based on a religion. how do you do that? we are a country founded on religious freedom and liberty. how do we do what he has advocated without causing great distress within our own county truchl are we going to have religious tests? when people fly into our country? and how do we expect to be able to implement those? so, i thought that what he said was extremely unwise. and even dangerous. and indeed, you can look at the problem began da on a lot of the terrorists sites and what donald trump says about muslims is used to recruit fighters. because they want to create a war between us. and the final thing i would say, this is the tenth or 12th he's denied being for the war in iraq.
we have it on tape. the entire press. >> she just went about 25 second over her time. could i just respond to this, please? >> very quickly, please. >> hillary clinton in terms of having people come into our country, we have many criminal illegal aliens, when we want to send them back to their country, their country says we don't want them. in some cases, they're murders and they don't want them. hillary clinton, when she was secretary of state, said that's okay, we can't force it. let me tell you, i'm going to force them right back into their country. their murderers and some very bad people. when bernie sanders said she had bad judgment, she has really bad
judgment because we are letting people into this country that are going to cause problems and crime like you've never seen. we're letting drugs pour through our southern border at a record clip and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. i.c.e. just endorsed me. 16,500 just endorsed me and they endorsed me because i understand the border. she doesn't. she wants amnesty for everybody. come right in. come right over. it's a horrible thing she's doing. she's got bad judgment. and honestly, so bad that she should never be president of the united states. that, i can tell you. >> i want to move op. this next question from the public through the bipartisan open debate, where americans submitted questions that generated millions of votes. it violas reported excerpts of secretary clinton's paid
speeches, which she has refused to release and one line, in which you say you need both a public and private position on certain issues. so, two, from virginia asks is it okay for politicians to be two faced. is it acceptable for a politician to have a private stance. >> right, as i recall, that was something i said about abraham link pen and after having seen the wonderful steven spielberg movie called lincoln. it was a master class watching president lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amend. it was principled and strategic. i was making the point that it is hard sometimes to get the congress to do what you want to
do. to keep working at it. and yes, president lincoln was trying to quoins convince some people to use some arguments. that was a great i thought a great display of presidential leadership. but you know, let's talk about what's really going on because what's really going on because our intelligence community said the kremlin, meaning putin and the russian government, our directing the attacks, the hacking, on american accounts to influence our election. other sites, where the russians hack information. we don't know if it's accurate information an then they put it out. we have never in the history of our country been in a situation where an adversary, a foreign
power, is working so hard to influence the outcome of the election. and believe me, they're not doing it to get elected. they're doing it to try to influence the election for donald trump. now, maybe because he has praised putin, maybe because he says he agrees with a lot of what putin wants to do, maybe because he wants to do business in moscow, i don't know the reasons. but we deserve answers. we should demand that will donald release all of his tax returns so that people can see what are the entanglements and the financial relationships. >> we're going to get to that later. >> secretary, clinton, you're out of time. >> i think i should respond because so ridiculous. now she's blaming -- she got caught in a total lie. her papers later. things wikileaks that just came out. she lied. now she's blaming the lie on the late great abe lap lincoln.
that's one that i haven't -- okay, honest abe never lied. that's the good thing. that's the big difference between abraham lincoln and you. that's a big, big difference we're talking about some difference. but as far as other elements of what she was saying, i don't know putin. i think it would be great if we got along with russia because we could fight isis together as an example. but i don't know putin. i notice anytime anything wrong happens, they like to say the russians -- she doesn't know if it's the russians doing the hacking. maybe there is no hacking. but they always blame russia and the reason is because they think they're trying to tarnish me with russia. i know about russia but i know nothing about the inner workings of russia. i have no businesses. i have no loans from russia. i have a very, very great balance sheet, so great when i did the old post office on pennsylvania avenue, the united states government, because of my balance sheet which they actually know very well, chose me to do the old post office
between the white house and congress, chose me to do the old post office. one of the primary area things, perhaps the primary thing was balance sheet. but i have no loans with russia. you could go to the united states government and they would probably tell you that because they know my sheet very well in order to get that development. i had to have. now thetachs are very simple thing. first of all, i pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. many of her friends took bigger deductions, warren buffett took a massive desuction, soros took a massive desuction. many of the people giving her all this money that she can do many more commercials from me took massive deductions. i pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes, about you, but as soon as my re routine audit is finished i'll release my returns. >> we have a question from spencer moss.
spencer? >> good evening. my question is, what specific tax provisions will you change to insure the wealthiest americans pay their fair share intachs oo. >> one thing i would do is get rid of carried interest. one of the greatest provisions for people like me, i give up a lot when i run because i knock out the tax code. she could have done this be years ago. she's a -- she was a united states senator. she complains that donald trump took advantage of the tax code. well, why didn't she changing it? why didn't you change it when you were a senator? the reason you didn't is all your friends take the same advantage that i do. you have provisions in the tax code that frankly we could change. but you wouldn't change it because all of these people give you the money so you can take negative ads on donald trump. but and i say that about a lot of things. i've heard hillary complaining about so many different things over the years. i wish you would have done this. for 30 years, she's been doing this stuff.
she never changed and she never will change. we're getting rid of carried interest provisions. i'm lowering taxes actually because i think it's so important for corporations because we have corporations leaving massive corporations and little ones, little ones can't form. we're getting rid of regulations which goes hand in hand with the lowering of the taxes. we're bringing the tax rate down from 35% to 15%. we're cuttingtachs for the middle class. i will tell you we are cutting them big league for the middle class. i will tell you, hillary clinton is raising your taxes, folks. you can look at me. she's raising your taxes really high. and what that's going to do is a disaster for the country. but she is raising your taxes and i'm lowering your taxes. that in itself is a big difference. we are going to be thriving again. we have no growth in this country. if china has a gdp of 7%, it's like a national catastrophe. we're down to 1%.
and that's like no growth. we're going lower in my opinion. and a lot of it has to do with the fact that our taxes are so high. just about the highest in the world. and i'm bringing them down to one of the lower in the world. and i think it's so important, one of the most important things we can do. but she is raising everybody's taxes massively. >> secretary clinton, you have two minutes. the question is, what specific tax provisions will you change to ensure the wealthiest americans pay their fair share of taxes. >> well, everything you've heard everywhere donald just now is not true. i'm sorry i have to keep saying this, but he lives in an alternative reality. it is sort of amusing to hear somebody who hasn't paid federal income taxes in maybe 20 years talking about what he's going to do. i'll tell you what he's going to do. his plan will give the wealthy and corporations the biggest tax cuts they've ever had. more than the bush tax cuts by at least a factor of two. donald always takes care of donald and people like donald and this would be a massive
gift. and indeed, the way that he talks about his tax cuts would end up raising taxes on middle class families, millions of middle class families. here's what i want to do. i have said nobody who makes less than $250,000 a year, and that's the vast majority of americans as you know, will have their taxes raised because we've got to go where the money is. the money is with people who have taken advantage of every single break in the tax code. yes, when i was a senator, i did vote to close corporate loopholes. i voted to close, i think one of the loopholes he took advantage of when he claimed a billion dollar loss that enabled him to avoid paying taxes. i want to have a tax on people who are making a million dollars called the buffett rule. yes, warren buffett has gone out and said somebody like him should not be paying a lower tax rate than his secretary. i want a surcharge on income above $5 million.
i want to invest in you. i want to invest in hard-working families. i think it's been unfortunate but it's happened since the great recession, the gains have all gone to the top. we need to reverse that. people like donald who paid zero in taxes, zero for our vets, zero for our military, zero r health and education, that is wrong. and we're going to make sure that nobody, no corporation, and no individual can get away without paying his fair share to support our country. >> mr. trump, i want to give you the chance to respond. i want to tell viewers. in the last month,tachs were the number one issue on facebook for the first time in the campaign. "the new york times" published three pages of your 1995 tax returns. you claimed a $916 million loss which means you could have avoided paying personal income taxes for years. you said you pay property taxes, real estate taxes.
you have not answered a simple question. did you use the loss to avoid paying personal federal income taxes? >> of course i do. so do all of her donors or most of her donors. i know many of her donors. they took massive tax write-offs. >> have you paid personal federal tax? >> a lot of my write-off was depreciation and that hillary as a senator allowed. the people that give her all this money want it. i understand it the tax code better than anybody that's run for president. hillary clinton, it's extremeply complex. hockey has friends that want the carried interest provision which is very important to wall street people. but they really want the carried interest provision. which i believe hillary's leaving. very interesting why she's leaving carried interest. number one, i pay tremendous numbers of taxes. i absolutely used it. so did warren buffett and so did george soros and so did many of
the other people that hillary is getting money from. now, i won't mention their names because they're rich but they're not famous. we don't make them famous. >> can you say how many years you have avoided paying personal federal income taxes? >> no, but i pay tax and pay federal tax, too. i have a write-off, a lot of it is depreciation. it's a wonderful charge. if she had a problem for 30 years, she's been doing this, anderson. i say it all the time. she talks about health care. why didn't she do something about it? she talks about taxes. she doesn't do anything about anything other than talk. with her, it's all talk and no action. >> in the past. >> and again, bernie sanders, it's really bad judgment. she has made bad judgment not only on taxes, she's made bad judgments on libya, on syria. on iraq. i mean, her and obama, whether you like it or not, the way they
got out of iraq, the vacuum they've left, that's why isis formed in the first place. they started from that little area and now they're in 32 different nations, hillary. congratulations. great job. >> i want you to be able to respond, secretary clinton. >> well, here we go again. i've been in favor of getting rid of carried interest for years. starting when i was a senator from new york. but that's not the point here. >> why didn't you do it? >> why didn't you do it. >> because i was a senator with a republican president. i will be the president. >> you could have done it if you were an effective -- >> that's exactly right. >> if you were an effective senator, could you have done it. but you were not an effective senator. >> please allow her to respond. she didn't interrupt you. >> under our constitution, presidents have something called veto power. look, he has now said repeatedly 30 years this and 30 years that. so let me talk about my 30 years in public service. i'm very glad to do so. 8 million kids, every year, have
health insurance because when i was first lady, i worked with democrats and republicans to create the children's health insurance program. hundreds of thousands of kids now have a chance to be adopted because i worked to change our adoption and foster care system. after 9/11, i went to work with republican mayor, governor and president to rebuild new york and to get health care for our first responders who were suffering because they had run toward danger and gotten sickened by it. hundreds of thousands of national guard and reserve members have health care because of work that i did. and children vsh safer medicines because i was able to pass a law that required the dosing to be more carefully done. when i was secretary of state, i went around the world advocating for our country but also advocating for women's rights to make sure that women had a decent chance to have a better life. and negotiated a treaty with
russia to lower nuclear weapons. 400 pieces of legislation have my name on it as a sponsor or cosponsor when i was a senator for eight years. i worked very hard and was very proud to be re-elected in new york by an even bigger margin than i had been elected the first time. and as president, i will take that work, that bipartisan work, that finding common ground because you have to be able to get along with people to get things done in washington. >> thank you, secretary. >> i've proven that i can and for 30 years, i've produced results for people. >> thank you, secretary. >> we're going to move on to syria. both of you have mentioned that. >> she said a lot of things that were false. i think we should be allowed. >> mr. trump, this is about the audience. >> she's been a disaster as a senator. >> we're going to move on. the heart breaking video of a 5-year-old syrian boy sitting in an ambulance after being pulled from the rubble after an air striking in aleppo focused the world's attention on the horrors
of the war in syria with 136 million views of on facebook alone. but there are much worsives coming out of aleppo every day now where in the past few weeks alone, 400 people have been killed, at least 100 of them children. days ago, the state department called for a war crimes investigation of the syrian regime of bashar al assad and russia for their bombardment of aleppo. this next question comes through social media through facebook. diane from pennsylvania asks, if you were president what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo? isn't it a lot like the holocaust when the u.s. waited too long before we helped? secretary clinton, we'll begin with your two minutes. >> well, the situation in syria is catastrophic. and every day that goes by, we see the results of the regime by as sad in partnership with the iranians on the grounds, the
russians in the air bombarding places in particular aleppo where there are hundreds of thousands of people probably about 250,000 still left. and there is a determined effort by the russian air force to destroy aleppo in order to eliminate the last of the syrian rebels who are really holding out against the assad regime. russia hasn't paid any attention to isis. they're interested in keeping assad in power. so i when i was secretary of state, advocated and i advocate today a no-fly zone and safe zones. we need to some leverage with the russians because they are not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic resolution unless there is some leverage over them. and we have to work more closely with our partners and allies on the ground.
but i want to emphasize that what is at stake here is the ambitions and the aggressiveness of russia. russia has decided that it's all in in syria. and they've also decided who they want to see become president of the united states too, and it's not me. i've stood up to russia. i've taken on putin and others and i would do that as president. i think wherever we can cooperate with russia, that's fine. and i did as secretary of state. that's how we got a treaty reducing nuclear weapons. it's how we got the sanctions on iran that put a lid on the iranian nuclear program without firing a single shot. so i would go to the negotiating table with more leverage than we have now but i do support the effort to investigate for crimes, war crimes committed by the syrians and the russians and try to hold them accountable. >> thank you, secretary clinton. >> first of all, she's there
with the so-called line in the sand which. >> no, i wasn't. i was gone. i hate to interrupt you but at some point we needed to do some fact checking. >> you were in contact with the white house and perhaps sadly, obama probably still listened to you. i don't think he would listen to you very much anymore. obama draws the line in the sand. it was laughed at all over the world what happened. now, with that being said, she talks tough against russia. but our nuclear program has fallen way behind and they've gone wild with their nuclear program. not good. our government shouldn't have allowed that to happen. russia is new in terms of nuclear. we are old. we're tired. we're exhausted in terms of nuclear. a very bad thing. she talks tough, she talks really tough against putin. and against assad. she talks in favor of the rebels. she doesn't even know who they are. every time we take rebels, whether it's in iraq or anywhere
else, we're arming people, and you know what happens? they end up being worse than the people. look what she did in libya with gadhafi. gadhafi's out. it's a mess. isis has a good clunk of their oil. i'm sure you probably have heard that. it was a disaster. the fact is almost everything she's done in foreign policy has been a mistake and it's been a disaster. but if you look at russia, just take a look at russia, and look at what they did this week where i agree, she wasn't there but possibly she's consulted. we sign a peace treaty. everyone's excited. what russia did with assad and with iran who you made very powerful with the dumbest deal i've ever seen, the iran deal with the $1.7 billion in cash which is enough to fill up this room. but look at adil. iran now and russia are now against us. so she wants to fight. she wants to fight for rebels. there's only one problem. you don't even know who the
rebels are. >> mr. trump it, your two minutes is up. >> one thing i have to say. i don't like assad at all but assad is killing isis. russia is killing isis. and iran is killing isis. and those three have now lined up because of our weak foreign policy. >> mr. trump, let me repeat the question. if you were president, what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo? i want to remind you what your running mate said. he said prove vocations by russia need to be met with american strength and if russia continues to be involved in air strikes along with the syrian government forces of assad, the united states of america should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the assad regime. >> okay. he and i haven't spoken and i disagree. >> you disagree with your running mate. >> right now, syria is fighting isis.
we have people that want to fight both at the same time. but syria is no longer syria. syria is russia and iran who she made strong and kerry and obama made into a very powerful nation and very rich nation, very, very quickly. very, very quickly. i believe we have to get isis. we have to worry about isis before we can get too much more involved. she had a chance to do something with syria. they had a chance. that was the line. >> what do you think will happen if aleppo falls. >> it is a disaster. >> what do you think will happen if it falls? >> i think it basically has fallen. let me tell you something. you take a look at mosul. the biggest problem i have with the stupidity of our foreign policy, we have mosul. we have flouncements coming out of washington and iraq, we will be attacking mosul in three or four weeks. all of these bad leaders from isis are leaving mosul. why can't they do it quietly.
why can't they do the attack, make it a sneak attack and after the attack is made, inform the american public that we've knocked out the leaders, we've had a tremendous success. people leave. why do they have to say we're going to be attacking mosul within the next four to six weeks which is what they're saying. how stupid is our country. >> there are sometimes reasons the military does that. psychological warfare. >> i can't think of any. i'm pretty good at it. we have general flynn. i have 200 generals and admiral who's endorse me. i have 21 congressional medal of honor recipients who endorse me. we talk about it all the time. they understand, why can't they do something secretively where they go in and they knock out the leadership. how -- why would these people stay there? i've been reading now. >> tell me what your strategy is. >> for weeks about mosul, it's the harbor between raqqah and mosul, this is where they think
the isis leaders would be. they're gone. because everybody's talking about how iraq which is us with our leadership goes into fight mosul. now, with these 200 admirals and generals, they can't believe it. all i say is this. general george patton, general douglas mcauthur are spinning in their grave as the stupidity of what we're doing in the middle east. >> secretary clinton, you want assad to go. you advocated arming rebels. it looks like that may be too late for aleppo. you talk about diplomatic efforts. those have failed. cease fires have failed. would you introduce the threat of u.s. military force beyond a no-fly zone against the assad regime to back up diplomacy? >> i would not use american ground forces in syria. i think that would be a very serious mistake. i don't think american troops should be holding territory
which is what they would have to do as an occupying force. i don't think that is a smart strategy. i do think the use of special forces which we're using, the use of enablers and trainers in iraq which has had some positive effects are very much in our interests and so i do support what is happening, but let me just. >> what would you do differently than president obama is doing? >> martha, i hope by the time -- >> everything. >> i hope by the time i am president, that we will have pushed isis out of iraq. i do think that there is a good chance that we can take mosul. and you know, donald says he knows more about isis than the generals. no, he doesn't. there are a lot of very important planning going on and some of it is to signal to the sunnis in the area as well as kurdish peshmerga fighters that we all need to be in this.
that takes a lot of planning and preparation. i would go after baghdadi. i would specifically target baghdadi because i think our targeting of al qaeda leaders and i was involved in a lot of the those operations, highly classified ones, made a difference. that could help. i would also consider arming the kurds. the kurds have been our best partners in syria as well as iraq. and i know there's a lot of concern about that in some circles but i think they should have the equipment they need so that kurdish and arab fighters on the ground are the principal way that we take raqqah after pushing isis out of iraq. >> thank you very much. >> it's funny she went over a minute over and you don't stop her. when i go one second over -- >> you have many answers. >> it's very interesting. >> a question from james carter. mr. carter?
>> my question is, do you believe you can be a devoted president to all the people in the united states? >> that question begins for mr. trump. >> absolutely. i mean, she calls our people deplorable. a large group and irredeemable. i will be a president for all of our people. and i'll be a president that will turn our inner cities around and will give strength to people and will give economics to people and will bring jobs back because nafta signed by her husband is perhaps the greatest disaster trade deal in the history of the world. not in this country. it stripped us of manufacturing jobs. we lost our jobs. we lost our money. we lost our plants. it is a disaster. now she wants to sign tpp even though now she says she's for it. she called it the gold standard.
she lied. it turned out she did say the gold standard and she said she didn't say it. they actually said that she lied and she lied. but she's lied about a lot of things. i would be a president for all of the people. african-americans, the inner cities. devastating what's happening to our inner cities. she's been talking about it for years. as usual, she talks about it, nothing happens. she doesn't get it done. same with the latino americans. the hispanic americans. the same exact thing. they talk, they don't get it done. you go into the inner cities and you see it's 45% poverty. african-americans now 45% poverty in the inner cities. the education is a disaster. jobs are essentially nonexistent. i mean, it's -- you know, and i've been saying big speeches where i have 20,000 and 30,000 people, what do you have to lose? it can't get any worse.
she's been talking about the inner cities for 25 years. nothing's going to ever happen. let me tell you, if she's president of the united states, nothing's going to happen. it's going to be talk. all of her friends the taxes we were talking about, and i would just get it by osmosis. she's not doing me any favors. by doing all the others favors, she's doing me favors. she's all talk. it doesn't get done. look at her senate run, take a look at upstate new york. >> your two minutes is up. >> you have two minutes, secretary clinton. >> well, 67% of the people voted to re-elect me when i ran for my second term. and i was very proud and very humbled by that. mr. carter, i have tried my entire life to do what i can to support children and families. you know, right out of law school, i went to work for the children's defense fund. donald talks a lot about you know, the 30 years i've been in public service.
i'm proud of that. you know, i started off as a young lawyer working against discrimination against african-american children in schools and in the criminal justice system. i worked to make sure that kids with disabilities could get a public education. something that i care very much about. i have worked with latinos, one of my first jobs in politics was down in south texas registering latino citizens to be able to vote. so i have a deep devotion to use your absolutely correct word. to making sure that an every american feels like he or she has a place in our country. and i think when you look at the letters that i get, a lot of people are worried that maybe they wouldn't have a place in donald trump's america. they write me and one woman wrote me about her son felix. she adopted him from ethiopia. he's 10 years old now.
this is the only one country he's known. he listens to donald on tv and said to miss mother, will he send me back to ethiopia if he gets elected. children liston what is being said, to go back to the very, very first question. and there's a lot of fear in fact, teachers and parents are calling it the trump effect. bull ying is up. a lot of people are feeling uneasy, a lot of kids are expressing their concerns. so first and foremost, i will do everything i can to reach out to everybody. democrats, republicans, independents, people across our country. if you don't vote for me, i still want to be your president. i want to be the best president i can be for every american. >> your two minutes is up. i want to follow up on something donald trump actually said to you, a comment you made last month. you said that half his supporters are deplorables, racist, xenophobic, islammophobic. you later said you regretted saying half. you didn't express regret for using the term deplorables.
how can you unite a country if you've written off tens of millions of americans. >> within hours i said i was sorry about the way i talked about that. my argument is not with his supporters. it's with him and with the hateful and divisive campaign he has run and the inciting of violence at his rallies and the very brutal kinds of comments about not just women, but all-americans. all kinds of americans. and what he has said about african-americans and latinos, about muslims, about p.o.w.s, about immigrants, about people with disabilities, he's never apologized for. and so, i do think that a lot of the tone and tenor that he has said, i'm proud of the campaign that bernie sanders and i ran. we ran a campaign based on issues, not insults. he is supporting me 100%. >> thank you.
>> because we talked about what we wanted to do. we might have had some differences and we had a lot of debates but we believed that we could make the country better. i was proud of that. >> i give you a minute. >> we have a divided nation. we have a very divided nation. you look at charlotte. you look at baltimore. you look at the violence that's taking place in the inner cities, chicago, you take a look at washington, d.c. we have an increases in murder within our cities. the biggest in 45 years. we have a divided nation because people like her, and believe me, she has tremendous hate in her heart. and when she said deplorables, she meant it. and when she said irredeemable, they're irredeemable, you didn't mention that, but when she said they're irredeemable, that might have even been worse. >> she said some of them. >> she's got tremendous hatred. and this country cannot take another four years of barack obama and that's what you're getting with h.
>> mr. trump, let me follow up with you. in 2008, wrote in one of your books the most important characteristic of a good leader is discipline. you said if a leader doesn't have it "he or she won't be one for very long." in the days after the first debate, you sent out a series of tweets from 3:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. including one that told people to check out a sex tape. is that discipline. >> it was just take a look at the person she built up to be this wonderful girl scout who was no girl scout. just so you understand, when she said 3:00 in the morning, take a look at benghazi. she said who is going to answer it the call at 3:00 in the morning. guess what, she didn't answer because when ambassador stevens. >> the question is, is that the discipline of a good leader. >> 600 times. she said she was awake at 3:00 in the morning and she also sent a tweet out at 3:00 in the morning. she said she'll be awake. guess what happened. ambassador stevens, ambassador stevens sent 600 requests for help.
and the only one she talked to was sidney blumenthal who is her friend and not a good guy by the way. so you know, she shouldn't be talking about that. now, it tweeting happens to be a modern day form of communication. i mean, you can like it or not like it. i have between facebook and twitter, i have almost 25 million people. it's a very effective wa communication. so you can put it down, but it is a very effective form of communication. i'm not unproud of it to be honest with you. >> secretary clinton, does mr. trump have the discipline to be a good leader >> no. >> i'm shocked to hear that. >> well, it's not only my opinion. it's the opinion of many others. national security experts, republicans, former republican members of congress. but it's in part because those of us who have had the great privilege of seeing this job up close and know how difficult it is and it's not just because i
watched my husband take a $300 billion deficit and turn it into a $200 billion surplus and 23 million new jobs were created and incomes went up for everybody. everybody. african-american incomes went up 33%. and it's not just because i worked with george w. bush after 9/11. and i was very proud that when i told him what the city needed, what we needed to recover, he said you've got it and he never wavered. he stuck with me. and i have worked and i admire president obama. he inherited the worst financial crisis since the great depression. that was a terrible time for our country. >> we have to move along. >> 9 million people lost their jobs. 5 million homes were lost and $13 trillion in family wealth was wiped out. we are back on the right track. he would send us back into recession with his tax plans. >> secretary clinton, we are moving to an audience question. we're almost out of time. >> we have the closest growth
since 1929. >> we're moving on to another question. >> our country has the slowest growth. >> we want to get to the audience. thank you very much both of you. we have another audience question. beth miller has a question for both candidates. >> good evening. perhaps the most important aspect of this election is the supreme court justice. what would you prioritize as the most important aspect of selecting a supreme court justice? >> we begin with your two minutes, secretary clinton. >> you're right. this is one of the most important issues in this election. i want to appoint supreme court justices who understand the way the world really works. who have real life experience, who have not just been in a big law firm and maybe clerks for a judge and then gotten on the bench. maybe they tried some more cases. they actually understand what people are up against because i
think the current court has gone in the wrong direction. and so i would want to see the supreme court reverse citizens united. and get dark unaccountable money out of our politics. donald doesn't agree with that. i would like the supreme court to understand that voting rights are still a big problem in many parts of our country. that we don't always do everything we can to making it possible for people of color and older people and young people to be able to exercise their franchise. i want a supreme court that will stick with roe v. wade and a woman's right to choose and i want a supreme court that will stick with marriage equality. now, donald has put forth the names of some people that he would consider. and among the ones that he has suggested are people who would reverse roe versus wade and reverse marriage equality. i think that would be a terrible mistake and would take us backwards. i want a supreme court that doesn't always side with corporate interests.
i want a supreme court that understands because you're wealthy and you can give more money to something doesn't mean you have any more rights than anybody else. so i have very clear views about what i want to see to tend to change the balance on the supreme court, and i regret deeply that the senate has not done its job and they have not permitted a vote on the person that president obama, a highly qualified person, they've not given him a vote to be able to be have the full complement of nine supreme court justices. i think that was a dereliction of duty. i hope that they will see their way to doing it, but if i am an so fortunate enough as to be president, il immediately lid move to make sure that we fill that. we have nine justices on behalf of our people. >> you're out of time. mr. trump? >> justice scalia, great judge. died recently. and we have a vacancy.
i am looking to appoint judges very much in the mold of justice scalia. i'm looking for judges, and i've actually picked 20 of them. so that people would see highly respected, highly thought of, and actually very beautifully reviewed by just about everybody. but people that will respect the constitution of the united states. and i think that this is so important. also, the second amendment which is totally under siege by people like hillary clinton. they'll respect the second amendment. and what it stands for, what it represents. so important to me. hillary mentioned something about contributions just so you understand. i will have in my race more than $100 million put in of my money, meaning i'm not taking all of this big money from all of these different corporations like she's doing. what i ask is this. i'm putting in more by the time it's finished, i'll have more
than $100 million invested. pretty much self-funding. we're raising money for the republican party and we're doing tremendously on the small donations. $61 average or so. i ask hillary, why doesn't she make $250 million by being in office? she used the power of her office to make a lot of money. why isn't she funding not for $100 million but why don't you put $10 million or $20 million or $25 million into your own campaign? it's $30 million less for special interests that will tell you exactly what to do and it would be a nice sign to the american public. why aren't you putting some money in. you've made a lot of it because of the fact you've been in office. made a lot of it while you were secretary of state. why aren't you putting money into your own campaign, i'm curious. >> we're going to get on to one more question. >> the question was about the supreme court. i want to quickly say, i respect the second amendment. but i believe there should be comprehensive background
collection and we should close the gun show loophole and closs the online loophole. >> we have one more question, mrs. clinton. >> we have one more question from ken bone about energy policy. ken? >> what steps will your energy policy take to meet our energy needs? while at the same time, reminding environmentally friendly and minimizing it job loss for fossil power plant workers? >> mr. trump. i think it's such a great question because energy is under siege by the obama administration. under absolutely siege. the epa, environmental protection agency, is killing these energy companies. and foreign companies are now coming in buying our -- buying so many of our different plants and then rejigering the plant so that they can take care of their oil. we are killing, absolutely killing our energy business in this country. i'm all for alternative forms of energy including wind, including
mistaking that car for a giant carrot. it caused $6,000 in damages. >> jon: the car was parked next to the donkey's enclosure. the man could have picked a better parking spot. that does it for us today, "america's news headquarters" starts >> sandra: awaiting the start of the white house press briefing on this very busy day in washington. hello, everyone. i'm sandra smith. we expect fresh white house reaction on tax reform, healthcare and aid for hurricane ravaged puerto rico. we have live fox news coverage for you. john roberts standing by at the white house. we begin with mike emanuel who is currently live on capitol hill. mike, the framework is public now, so where do lawmakers go from here on tax reform? >> reporter: well, sandra, house speaker paul ryan is among those out selling this tax proposal, saying it will help those who deserve it. >> our plan lowers taxes for small family owned businesses.
middle class. now we're learning healthcare may also be back in the mix. john roberts is live on the north lawn. john, the white house is defending its tax reform plan? >> reporter: they are. in terms of the volume of things coming out of here, it is a typical day at the white house. president said his tax reform proposal is a give away to the rich. tweeting this morning, quote, democrats don't want massive tax cuts. how does that win elections? great review for tax cut and reform bill. chuck shumer is critical of the president's plan for a couple of reasons, saying that because it eliminates the state and local deduction, people in high taxation states like new york state, like connecticut, like california, will actually be taxed twice and their taxes could also go up. the reason schumer is calling this a give away to the rich is that because the president would eliminate the estate tax and also eliminate the alternative minimum tax. you might remember that in that one snippet of president trump's tax return that we saw, he paid
puerto rico expected to be a big one, too, right? >> reporter: it will be a big topic especially since there have been criticisms of the white house's response to what's happening in puerto rico. people saying it's ineffective and unconscionably slow. but the white house is saying, look, we're on an island there, we're getting material in as fast as possible. lot of the roads are blocked. we heard from the acting dhs secretary and homeland security adviser a little while ago outside the white house. they say they're air lifting supplies. they got 10,000 federal workers there. 7200 are troops. they're trying to get as much material as they can into puerto rico as quickly as they can. of course, the president this morning asked for a waiver ten days in length of the jones act, which would allow foreign flying vessels to take supplies from the united states into puerto rico. that's prohibited by the jones act. i asked secretary about that earlier today, if that helps them hro gistically.
she said, yes, it helps very much with resupply. hopefully we'll see more getting into puerto rico. getting from the ports to the areas where it is needed most. >> sandra: john, you're getting new information on scott pruitt's flights. >> reporter: it all started with tom price and if the revelation that he spent $400,000 on private flights. now people are talking about the epa administrator taking a number of noncommercial flights. a source tells me it was four flights in total. the only charter flight was one between denver, colorado and duragno. this was after the commercial flight on aou nighted airlines that the administrator was booked on was delayed for eight hours and he would have missed this event in a mine had they not chartered the flight. also asked the governor of colorado if they could jump on his plane. they were initially told there was no room. after they chartered the aircraft, the governor said we've got one seat.
the other flights were government flights. one was a military flight from cincinnati to jfk so the administrator could jump a commercial flight to italy so he could join the president at the g-7 summit. another one department of interior flight inside oklahoma. would have taken more than five hours to drive there. the epa reimbursed the department of interior for that. the other one was a ride on the governor of north dakota's aircraft between two cities in north dakota. between fargo and grand forks for which the governor was reimbursed. all of that was cleared by the epa office of ethics. so they're saying this is not a tom price situation, this is completely different. sandra? >> sandra: john roberts, thank you. >> reporter: thank you. >> sandra: so the focus on tax reform now turns to capitol hill, where lawmakers in both the house and senate must craft their own bills. joining me now colorado senator corey gardner who sits on the foreign relations committee.
senator, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> sandra: senator, a lot going on. lot of optimism coming from you and your colleagues over this tax plan. is there enough there to get this passed? >> you know, i believe there is. i think the reason there is, because we have to jump start this economy. there are far too many people in our country who have seen their wages remain the same. stagnant wages mean people haven't been able to get ahead. they haven't been able to get that leg up they thought they could. through tax relief to american families, we're able to make sure people keep more of their own money. job creators able to create more jobs by investing in their businesses. this is a good thing for america. >> sandra: you heard some of the reports coming from capitol hill earlier. nancy pelosi saying this swindles the american people, it would be catastrophic for the budget. chuck shumer saying this is a give away and a major disappointment. will democrats be able to come around on this? >> one of the provisions chuck
shumer has objected to. 88% of the people who receive that tax benefit earn over $100,000 a year. that's hardly the middle class of america. we have to make sure we do what's right for the middle class americans. we have been talking about coming up with opportunities to drive down tax rates to let people make their own decisions on how to spend their own money. we know once you drive down those taxes, more money will be coming back in to the united states from overseas. we'll see more investment. we'll see wage growth and the opportunity to create more businesses. there are some areas that haven't seen net job increases or new starts since 2000. 17 years it's been stagnant on the job front and new business front. we can do better. tax reform, tax relief is the way to do it. >> sandra: you sound optimistic. we see president trump touting this plan. are you going to be taoeubl sell
this? >> yeah, i think so. i'm old enough to remember that president obama talked about cutting taxes. so i think this is something that has bipartisan support. it's something that both sides should agree to, unless they just want to play politics. it will be easy to convince the american people. would you like to have more money in your own pocket than you did before? and they're gonna say yes. >> sandra: i think you can bet on that. thank you very much, senator gardner, for coming on. >> thanks. >> sandra: the white house briefing ahead this hour. we'll see what the administration has to say about the new tax plan. also be asked about the response to the growing crisis in puerto rico. >> we need the president to really take this seriously. there's no way in the world that puerto ricans together working with the local government can just with the support that we currently have on the island from fema we're going to be able to rebuild puerto rico for at least as an emergency get these supplies to the people in need. patrick woke up with back pain.
containers that are sitting here just waiting to go out. these containers are filled with food, medicine, construction materials, anything you could buy at a wal-mart, grocery store, pharmacy. these are the same items folks are lining up to buy, waiting for hours. that is what has port officials here so frustrated. >> the water, the food, the medicine t construction materials right now people are without roofs. people are without walls right now. with all this cargo that we have sitting here, we know that we can bring immediate relief to all those people in need. >> reporter: the problem is with distribution. right now puerto rico does not have enough drivers to get these containers out on to the road and to those places that need it. that is why the governor told me yesterday, right now his biggest need is folks to sit in a seat and drive a truck. >> it's a logistics problem.
if you fly over as we did over the port, you see that we have thousands of crates of food, water, fuel is plentiful. but we need the transportation to execute. this is going to take every truck driver in puerto rico so we could be effective. and we're going to need support from the outside. >> reporter: and the reason these shipping containers are sitting here still is as of right now, only 20% of puerto rico's truck drivers have gotten back on the job. some of them lost their homes, their trucks. others the government has not been able to contact. they are looking for anyone to drive a truck, for folks outside puerto rico to get in here and help with trucks as well as drivers. right now it's a frustrating situation for both the government and for people here at the port especially folks across the country who are in desperate need. >> sandra: thank you for
netanyahu your reporting on that. we are just moments away from the white house briefing where we expect questions on president trump's tax plan and puerto rico. plus, some cabinet members in hot water for spending taxpayer money on chartered flights. we'll look at the potential consequences. >> the president's made it clear that he's not happy with those developments. he'll look into it and i'll leave it between the president and secretary to work it out.
devastation on the island and for anybody that needs food and water, power, life saving needs and commodities, health care, there's nothing that can happen fast enough. but what i will tell you is that we are mobilizing and marshaling the resources of the united states of america that is absolutely professional, fast and adequate. >> sandra: louisiana senator john kennedy is a republican on the appropriations committee. senator kennedy, thank you for joining us today. >> you bet, sandra. >> sandra: first off, what do you make of the administration's response to horrific situation happening in puerto rico right now? how is the administration handling in their response? >> well, i think the administration is doing a much better job than some members of the national media and certainly the democrats are giving them credit for. that's one example of where nothing that the president does will ever satisfy our friends on
the democratic side. i'll give you another example that i have been listening to your clips of what chuck shumer said about our tax reform bill being a tax cut for the rich. you know, i noticed something since i have been in washington these nine months. lying is a growth industry around here. now, i really like chuck. i think he's a great guy. i don't agree with him. but when it comes to tax reform, our bill, he's going through a phase. called brain dead. our bill will do more for middle class americans, working families, ordinary people, whatever you want to call it, than anything this town has done in 50 years. so i have got to set the record straight on that. chuck is just not telling you the truth about this bill. >> sandra: senator kennedy, to let everybody know what chuck shumer said. he said this is a give away to the rich. this tax plan is a major
disappointment. you have responded by penning an op ed, a tax code for the middle class you call it. let's invest in the american dream. you wrote nearly three-quarters of americans opt to take the standard deduction. it's simple, fair, requires less documentation than itemizing. all congress needs to do is double the standard deduction in order to inject $600 billion back into the economy over ten years. you cited a 2014 report. >> it's very simple. take an ordinary couple making $70,000 a year. mom and dad both work. they take the standard deduction. they file jointly. they pay about $3500 in federal income tax. they pay a lot more in taxes but $3500 in federal income taxes. double their standard deduction and that's going to give them an extra $1800 of their own. they can spend it on whatever
they want. that's not a tax cut for the rich. that's a tax cut for people who get up every day and go to work and obey the law and pay their taxes that need a little help. >> sandra: if it's that easy, why can't republicans sell this? >> i think we can and we are. you've got to refute nonsense as spoken by my friend chuck shumer. it's not just nonsense. it's nonsense on a stick. he knows that. chuck's base has white hot hatred for donald trump. they're never gonna say anything good about the tax package. maybe he believes. you can believe 2 plus 2 equals 5 and that doesn't make it correct. it's wrong. >> sandra: i want to get your response, senator kennedy, to hhs secretary tom price. he's under fire for using government resources for personal use. he was asked on camera, with a
microphone, whether he thinks he should be fired. listen to this. >> we're gonna work through this. >> do you think you should be fired? >> i think we've still got the confidence of the president and we continue to work on important issues like flu vaccinations. >> sandra: senator kennedy, what did you make of his response? >> no excuses here. can't put lip stick on this pig. it's a pig. tom shouldn't have done this. whether he stays on is between him and president trump. taking these charter flights, playing the big shot on the taxpayer's dime when you can go by bus or train or regular commercial air. can't put lip stick on this pig. >> sandra: should he be fired, senateer? >> that's not my call. that's up to him and the president. if you're asking me if i think it's wrong? it's dead wrong. it's more than wrong. don't defend this. it's indefensible.
>> sandra: all right. senator kennedy, really good to have you on this afternoon. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> sandra: all right. well, the white house press briefing, i'll remind you, it is just moments from now, where all these topics are likely to come up. plus details about top security leak. remember a reality winner, how she claims to have smuggled out a classified report. i just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance with geico. huh. i should take a closer look at geico... geico can help with way more than car insurance. boats, homes, motorcycles... even umbrella coverage. this guy's gonna wish he brought his umbrella. fire at will! how'd you know the guy's name is will? yeah? it's an expression, ya know? fire at will? you never heard of that? oh, there goes will! bye, will! that's not his name! take a closer look at geico. great savings. and a whole lot more.
>> sandra: we're awaiting the white house press briefing. it is set to begin moments from now. we are also awaiting a life briefing from the state department as remembering tillerson kicks off a high level trip to china. the whole talks on the nuclear standoff with north korea among other things. rich edson has the latest on the state department. hey, rich. >> reporter: good afternoon, sandra. secretary tillerson is on his way to beijing for high level meetings with government officials there. secretary of state also welcomed at the state department today officials from the chinese government. before he left, he discussed his priorities for that trip to beijing. >> preparation for president trump's important visit. so we want to talk about the agenda for that visit. then we'll continue our discussions on a number of other issues that are important. certainly north korea will be on the table for discussion. >> reporter: this is his second trip to beijing as secretary of
state. nuclear missile development first component of his first trip in march. those issues are a priority this time. china recently agreed to support u.n. resolution sanctioning north korea. china's commerce ministry just announced businesses in that country operating with north korea have 120 days to close. china also announced it will reduce energy and text tile trade. that prompted president trump to publicly applaud chinese president trump xi for his actio actions. there are critics that point to china being north korea's top trading partner and those u.n. security council sanctions that china did support, it and russia worked together to water those measures down. there are those at the state department are saying china can do a lot more when it comes to north korea and that will be part of the conversations the secretary will have with his weekend trip to beijing. chinese, they're saying they want the united states and north
korea to cool it with the rhetoric. they're all saying they want both countries to avoid any type of military conflict in that region and on their border. sandra? >> sandra: briefing there set to begin any moment. thank you. meanwhile, we are awaiting the white house press briefing. tax reform is gaining traction on capitol hill. it will likely be a big.of discussion in that room. let's go to guy benson fox news contributor and bernard whitman former bill clinton pollster. thanks to both of you for being here. guy, i'll ask you first. what do you think will be the first question from reporters in that briefing room? what is the hot topic today. >> reporter: congratulations on the new gig on america's news room. i can't wait to watch this week. >> sandra: thank you. >> i'm not going to try to predict what journalists might ask, but i would not be surprised if it was about tax reform and whether or not the plan put forward will, in fact, benefit the middle class, which
is what the white house is saying and maybe trying to tease out some more specifics. what we have right now is a frame work. i think it's a frame work. i like the messaging. i think tax reform is essential. we're off to a good start. but there are some big policy questions that need to be answered, and some holes that need to be filled by congress. and maybe a question that i would ask is what type of direction the president would want to give the bill writers in the house and senate on questions like the size of the tax credit, the child tax credit is one example that jumps to mind. >> sandra: speaking of the hole in the deficit, nancy pelosi verbalized her criticism for the plan. she said this, after republican tax plan blows a multitrillion dollar hole in the deficit, they will sharpen their knives for social security, medicare, medicade. bernard, heavy criticism coming from nancy pelosi, chuck shumer.
you've been hearing it all day. >> well deserved. this is a massive tax redistribution to the wealthy. this will disproportionately benefit the top .2% of americans. it is outrageous. if you look and see, the gap between not rich and poor, but the gap between rich and middle class has grown 160% in the last 20 years. this is a fundamentally against what the republicans and donald trump promised. they said two things. they promised to prioritize the middle class. two, they promised it would be revenue neutral. this falls incredibly -- >> sandra: let me get guy to react to that. president said, as we have heard him say on fox news this morning, this plan is for the working people. this does target the middle class, guy. >> and it does. bernard, i hope you get a big enough tax cut that you can buy yourself a new talking point. i have heard this always from democrats. whenever you want to cut taxes,
oh, it's for the rich. no. this is across the board tax relief and tax simplification which benefits middle class and working class families. when you talk about any tax cuts, yes, if you're going to cut taxes, the top 1% of wage earners pay 40% of federal income taxes. the top 20% -- >> they have the wealth. >> top 20% of wage earners pay 70% of all federal taxes. so, yes, they are going to get a break, but so are working class family, so are small business, so are corporations that have lots of dollars parked overseas. and it's going to simplify the tax system, which we spend billions of dollars trying to comply with this tax rule. >> sandra: bernard i want to get you back on that small business point. when you look at that corporate tax rate, what problem do you have with that? small business is two-thirds of the u.s. economy. lowering that corporate tax rate that has been such a burden for
those small businesses from 35% to 20%. >> i'm all in favor of lowering corporate tax. but what i want to ask guy is what happened to the deficit hawks in the republican party? what happened to the idea that we have to cut our deficit. this is going to balloon the deficit. even aggressive tax cutters believe it will balloon by $2 trillion. evidently that goes right out the window. >> one legislative win. >> i do find it interesting that democrats are all of a sudden interested in deficits and debt after barack obama almost doubled the national debt over eight years all by himself. i have been critical of president trump for saying certain things like social security and medicare. these are giant -- when we talk about a debt crisis, those are the programs driving the debt crisis. it is basic math. we have to reform those programs for younger people. not current seniors. but later on these things are
going insolvent. that's what we have to do. growing the economy through pro growth tax cuts and reform i think is completely appropriate. but, yes, we should have an eye on the deficit. >> sandra: one point that paul ryan continues to sell, bernard, simplifying the tax code, shrinking down from seven tax brackets to three. being able to do your taxes on a post card. >> say good-bye to the deduction you have for your children, for mortgage interest. probably going to go away. >> nope. nope. >> sandra: this will all likely come up in the press briefing. >> wrong, wrong and wrong. >> sandra: thanks to both of you, bernard and guy. brand new details about a top secret security leak. accused nsa leaker reality winner unveiling how it all went down and why she would do such a thing. peter ducey is live. how did winters sneak this document out of an nsa office? >> reporter: reality winter folded up a classified report and shoved it in her panty hose
so she could walk out the door, take it to a mailbox and send it to the news organization intercept. she got mad something the nsa knew about russian election interference wasn't widely reported and decided to leak it telling the fbi, i guess i didn't care about myself at that point. yeah, yeah, i screwed up royally. she also revealed a frustration with fox news saying, quote, i guess it's just been hard at work because, i filed formal complaints about them having fox news on, you know? just at least for god sake put al-jazeera on or a slide show of people's pets. i have tried everything to get that changed. there is one potential problem. when fbi showed up at reality winner's house, nobody ever read her her miranda right, her right to remain silent. so her lawyer saying anything she revealed there is not admissible. >> sandra: do the feds have any other evidence against winner they can use? >> reporter: they do. they have a face book exchange
between winner and her sister from a few months before she leaked that reads like this. winner said i have to take a polygraph where they'll ask if i ever plotted against the government. hash tag gonna fail. her sister said laugh out loud. just convince yourself you're writing a novel. winner said i only say i hate america like three times a day. i'm no radical, it's just mostly about americans obsessing with air conditioning. the sister then said you don't actually hate america, right? winner said, yeah, i do, it's literally the worst thing that happened on the planet. we invented capitalism, the downfall of the environment. winner saying she wasn't trying to be like snowden but another place saying that she sides with snowden and asange. >> sandra: peter doocy, thank you. we are waiting sarah sanders to take the podium. she is expected to field many questions about the president's tax plan, among other things. we will bring that to you live
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the spin the new tax plan is a huge give away to the wealthy. this from the new york times. trump land gives substantial rewards for healthy people and corporations. these headlines ignore the fact that he opened the door for high earnings. seems the coverage obscure the fact that among the so called wealthy people, getting a tax people for small business, sandra i think you're starting your presser. i'll go back to you. >> sandra: thank you. sarah sanders at the white house press briefing room. >> today the president actively engaged in monitoring the recovery efforts in puerto rico. this morning he received an update from fema administrator brock long. administrator long has also briefed members of the senate this morning and members of the house this afternoon. the full weight of the united states government is engaged to ensure food, water, healthcare are making it to the people in need. at the request of the governor who is doing a terrific job, the
president waived the jones act. this will ensure ample resources are making it to the island. we will continue to focus on the challenge of districting those resources. the island setting presents logistical hurdles that do not exist on the main land where trucks can converge on disaster areas. 10,000 federal government relief workers are there, including 7200 troops are now on the island and working tirelessly to get people what they need. we have prioritized life saving resources to hospitals and can report that 44 of the island's 69 hospitals are now fully operational. the army corps of engineers is spearheading a massive mobilization to restore power. this began with providing the deisle fuel necessary for sustainable emergency power generation. they're also working to restore long term power generation and distribution around the island. there's a long way to go, but we will not rest until everyone is safe an secure. our message to the people of
puerto rico is this. the president is behind you. we all are, the entire country. your unbreakable spirit is an inspiration to us all. we are praying for you. we are working for you. we will not let you down. as you all know the president traveled to indianapolis, indiana, yesterday, to roll out a frame work for delivering tax relief for hard working american. our frame work is based on four key ideas. first, we will cut taxes for the everyday hardworking americans. second, we will make the tax code simple, fair, easy to understand. third, we will cut taxes on american businesses to restore our competitive edge and create more jobs and higher wages for american workers. finally our frame work encourages american companies to bring back the trillions and trillions of dollars in wealth that's parked overseas. robin helman owns a small printing business in indianapolis. robin and her husband roger bought the business in 1991 and have since tripled in size. they both work full time in the shop and employ three additional
people. as robin describes it, her family is living the american dream. however, robin feels small businesses in our country have been neglected and in her words put on the back burner. but she's now excited about what if president and congressional leaders are proposing. she believes this tax cut will be a boone not just for her small business, but also for her customers. robin relies on small businesses to take risk, make investments in marketing campaigns that require printing services. robin is thrilled about the possibility of a tax code being simplified to allow the average taxpayer such as herself to save time and money so they can invest in their families and their business. people like robin are at the heart of the president's tax relief plan. to talk more about the tax relief plan, i'd like to bring out gary cohn. after gary takes a few of your questions, we'll also have tom bossart up to answer some questions specific to the hurricane relief efforts, and then i'll come up for more general, if you are insistent
and have other topics you want to cover. thanks. >> thank you, sarah. i was going to make some opening remarks. i think i won't because you covered a few of them. couple things i will say. the president's made his goals very clear what he wants to achieve here with tax reform and cutting taxes in the united states. i think you know where we are in the process. the group of six has been working really well together. we are now in the hands of congress. we want to go through a normal process both in the senate and house. we're working well with both tax drafting committees. the committees will continue to work. they're working really well. we're trying to drive tax reform as quickly as we can. you know the basic premise behind it. i'm not going to take you through what we talked ab before. question we get asked a lot, so i'll say it right now. we have to make some basic assumptions on where we'll end up with the brackets, but based
on aur assumptions a typical family earning $100,000 with two children ha bes an a standard deducter continues to use the standard deduction. they can expect a tax cut of about $1,000. that's where we're headed. that's where we're going to continue to be. with that, i think i'll open it up to questions and see what's on your minds. >> the there's been criticism that it's a give away to the rich. one criticism that seems to be relevant for your own state, connecticut, california, is that by eliminating the state and local deduction, there are certain people who will suffer double taxation. these are obviously itemizers. is that a hard and fast red line with you or would you be willing to give that up in congressional negotiati negotiations? >> our plan is based on lowering rates and expanding the base. it's very simple if you think of what we're doing.
you expand the base by getting rid of the loopholes. the loopholes that the wealthy taxpayers have used to pay tax on less of their income. so we have designed a plan where you're going to pay a lower rate, but more of your income. that is a basic core premise of our plan. we're committed to it and we're sticking with it. >> criticism is there are people in the middle income for whom this tax cut is supposed to be beneficial because they itemize. >> just to remind everyone in here, 25% of american families today itemize. that's it. 75% of american families do not itemize. so when you're talking about itemizing, you're talking 25b9% of the population. we all have many things we're doing in the tax plan to help out american families. we're lowering tax rates go, from seven to three rates. we're expanding the zero rate, up to $24,000 for that family. first $24,000 of income they will pay zero on. we're lowering the 15% down to
12% so the next rate will be 12%. we're doing things to help that family. we're expanding the parameters for child care greatly. we're really going to move the upper bounds to who's eligible for child care up to a substantially higher income level. so that family may be eligible for more credits. you have to look at this plan in its entirety. the one thing i would beg you all to do is don't look at any one piece. look at the plan in its entirety. that's how we're looking at tax reform. we're looking at it in its entirety. >> to follow up on what john was asking, standard deduction versus itemize. there are people who think if you dissuade people from itemizing people won't be interested in buying homes because they won't use the itemized deductions. >> we're protecting the mortgage deduction. the home builders came out in favor of our tax plan. the number one reason why people
buy homes is they're excited and optimistic about the economy. they have a job today, they feel confident they're going to have a job tomorrow and their kids are going to get a job and their spouse has a job. they feel like there's upward wage pressure. they feel good about the economy. that's when people go out and buy homes. we have not been in that situation in america for the last decade. we have to get america back to a place where people feel excited and exuberant about the economy. when they do that, they'll spend money, they'll buy homes. people don't buy homes because of the mortgage deduction. again, 75% of families don't use itemized deductions. yes? >> how are you going to ensure wealthy taxpayers don't abuse the tack rates? >> that's a great question. we have spepb enormous amount of time on the anti-abuse language. the last thing we want to see is wealthy individuals, or wealthy groups or families move their tax rate down from the 35% rate
to 25% rate. we are spending time on that. the tax writers in both the house and senate are acutely aware of this issue. we've got language on it. you will be seeing language as we deliver more in the coming days. we are acutely aware of that. guys like myself should not be allowed to put their assets into a partnership and reduce our tax liability by 10%. >> two things about -- one thing you said this morning. you said that you couldn't guarantee no middle class taxpayers would pay more taxes under the plan. because of the details that you were talking, that's a real possibility. some lower income people could see a small cut of a few dollars or not more than that. is it a red line for you and the president that all middle income taxpayers benefit from the plan. president said yesterday this tax cut would not help him. he said in indiana it would be
bad for him. what little we know about his finances he'd get a big cut, something like $31 million on past income he'd save $16.5 million. he'd obviously save a lot not paying estate tax, his heirs would. how can you say this is not helpful to him? >> the american people are concerned about their financial position. i think what they're concerned about is when they go to work every week and get their pay check, how much do they get to keep? how much goes in their pocket versus how much goes to the government? how much do they get to spend versus how much do they spend on the government? if we allow a family to keep another $1,000 of their income, what does that mean? they can renovate their kitchen? they can buy a new car. they can take a family vacation. they can increase their lifestyle. that's what our tax plans do. our tax plan is aimed to return more income back to hard working americans. that's what we're trying to do
here. >> speaking of the president saying this tax plan wouldn't benefit him. don't you think it would be a good idea if the president proved that by releasing his tax returns? >> like i say, what we're trying to do and what we're all working on in the white house is to increase the lifestyle of american citizens. our hard working citizens that get up every morning and work as hard as any people in the world to try and keep more of their hard earned income. that's what we're all about. that's what our tax plan is about. our tax plan is trying to get the economy, get the growth rate back to a normalized rate above 3%. yes, we just had a quarter 3.1% gdp. people didn't think we'd get to 3.1 for awhile. what does 1% of gdp mean? it means $3 trillion. it more than pays for a tax cut. that's what we're trying to do with our tax plan. >> if you can't guarantee that all middle class americans or some middle class americans won
see their taxes go up, does that contradict the plan to help middle class americans? >> our tax plan is aimed at making sure we give middle class americans a tax cut. we are going to give middle class americans a tax cut. that is what we are spending all of our time on doing. we've got lots of tools to make sure we do that. as i said this morning, i'll say it again, i could read my statement from this morning. i liked it so much this morning, i'd say it again. i cannot guarantee that. you could find me someone in the country that their taxes may not go down. remember, we have 50 states. we have counties. we have cities. we have long term capital gains, short term capital gains. i guarantee you, you could find someone in this country, maybe one person, who their taxes may not go down. >> can you walk us through the timeline for how you think the tax writing committees will get through this?
what confidence do you have given what's happened so far this year on capitol hill, that they will actually get this done? secondly, why did you decide to stay at the white house in the wake of charlottesville? >> i am very confident that the house and senate are working as quickly as they can. if you look at chairman brady right now and what he's doing in the house ways and means committee, they are working. they came in sunday to start working on the tax plan. they continue to work every day. chairman brady said they will get through the tax plan as quickly as they can. we will hope that we get through the house in october. we would hope to be in the senate in november. we hope to have a bill done by this year. why am i here? i'm here just for this reason. think about the opportunity that i'm involved in with the president being able to rewrite the tax code, something ha hasn't been done for 31 years. the amount of impact that we can have on the u.s. economy and u.s. citizens and changing the outlook of the united states.
this is a once in a life time student and i would never miss this. >> following that and then my question which is when you're done with tax reform you will no longer be at the white house. did you mean to imply that? >> there are many more once in a life time opportunities at the white house. >> we'd love to lear what would make you stay. on the child tax credit which we heard president trump talk about. can you give us any kind of description as to what that will look like. i know it's still being written. what is the goal here? will it be refundable? what are some of the specifics? >> i think we said in our outline yesterday, the existing child care credit is refundable. we'll say refundable. the additional money that will be put into the credit will be nonrefundable. we want to encourage people to work. we want to have people have taxable income to take the credit against. the size of it we're still working out. >> do you have a range in mind? >> we have a range in mind. we are working on delivering a
san francisco regarding sanctuary status in any way, claudia? >> not at all. in fact, local leaders in san francisco have doubled down thing stable truly enforce all aspects of sanctuary cities and they have tax dollars to help fight deportation. this case has done nothing to ease off. >> bill: on the same day, a major crackdown against ms-13. a notorious street gang infiltrating american streets especially here in the new york area. it could be a strong magnet for illegals. ag jeff sessions announcing a new initiative to fight back against the international drug gain. >> 10,000 in the united states, ms-13 threatens the lives and well-being's of each and every family, each and every
neighborhood that they infest. ms-13 members brutally rob, extort, rape and murder. guided by their own model -- kill, rape, control. they leave medicine back misery, devastation in their wake. they threaten entire governments. they must be and will be stopped. at the department of justice, we have a model too. justice for victims, consequences for criminals. >> bill: that speech in philadelphia, the gang often using violence to intimidate. david morey, good evening to you. and director of policy out of massachusetts, jessica vann. i want to begin with you, jessica. same day, two issues clearly connected. a crackdown on crime.
>> bill: you both heard claudia's last answer. that was is the sanctuary status of san francisco changing as a result -- and she stated clearly if anything, it has not -- i'm wondering looking at these federal numbers between new york and l.a. and san francisco, you have upwards of 6 million illegals who live under this sanctuary umbrella. you wonder how you are able to forge a future for all of these people unless you have some cohesive policy. >> i could not agree more. in fact, we are going to continue to suffer tragedies like the steinle murder and trial before we have a comprehensive immigration approach. people are scared and sanctuary cities give people the feeling in some places of protection, making them safer.
under separate jurisdiction. they would not be productive or overseen by the federal government. >> i don't think that works. >> bill: now you have a country in two different tracks. jessica, what would be your solution? >> the federal government needs to have the authority to enforce federal laws and states should not be allowed to interfere with those laws. the feds are not asking the states or locals -- just what is extended for any law enforcement agency. not only should there be consequences for sanctuary jurisdictions like losing access to federal grants and potentially injunction against some of the most egregious sanctuary laws, congress should really step in and clarify they are expected to cooperate with federal authority. >> bill: you think the
solution resides with congress? >> i think that would be the best, yeah. >> i know we are not optimistic when we bring in the word congress but if you look at the constituencies, there's a chance we could get something done. we need to do that. the same problem between sanctuary cities needs to be the federal government and states. you need a conference of federal solution. >> bill: i think the problem is only getting bigger. these are government numbers, now. 300 sanctuary jurisdictions that have been identified by i.c.e. as noncooperative. this number is only growing. which six tests at the local level they are emboldened by taking their own actions. >> i think we've gotten very polarized under this administration and very politicized. parties are going to their respective corners in that's
made it even more complicated to coordinate between federal state and city. >> bill: on that point, jessica, you wonder if this issue would be getting the attention it's getting unless you had an administration that made it clear and stated from the very beginning that they were going to be the law and order. >> there's no question and what's growing at the number of criminal aliens who have been released by sanctuary jurisdictions and committed more crimes. we have a new approach to this with the trump administration. i think they're going to to make some progress. miami and milwaukee and las vegas, the state of connecticut. withholding federal funds, when that comes down, there will be even more of them that rethink their policies. they ought to do it because of the twhirl horrible crimes but
eventually, there will be some t are defiant but there are other tools the federal government has at its disposal to take care of that. >> bill: he also said $100 million in grants to hire more police officers. that could be significant in time. thank you for your time tonight, and jessica. david, good to see you as well. a new twist in the russian election investigation that you did not expect. details emerging about russian spies who ran in the same circle as bill and hillary clinton. we will detail all of that. that is here next on "fox news tonight." in control? this guy. check it out! self-appendectomy! oh, that's really attached. that's why i rent from national.
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actions were covert. for good reason at that time. the host of "the blaze." and how are you guys doing? here's the story, fbi watch and acted as russian spies move closer to hillary clinton. you read this story and you came away thinking what, miles? >> why is that the media talking about this. i'm not saying that hillary clinton did anything wrong but there's a lot of smoke here. that means an investigation, the house and senate need to actually look into this. maybe a special counsel but i don't think we're going to get that. >> bill: gina, what is their first reaction? >> what i've always said. we should have a transparent investigation in all forms of russian "collusion" into our election and other aspects of
our system. let's not forget, i read this and i thought who could be decried by this? to think they just popped up right before the 2016 election and said they were going to get involved in this? no, there's a long history not just of russia by the way but of many nations. >> bill: but the complete picture, you have to digest this information. information that wasn't leaked. >> this is more about russia than it is collusion. always been talking about -- >> the public to know about it. we know sources knew about it but there were no reports about this. it seems to be a little bit of shady business. a lot of smoke. it's not quite the amount of evidence but i wonder why i was just finding out about this information? >> bill: there's no evidence of anything illegal. i don't know what that means for
the clinton foundation because apparently that investigation continues and all the issues about uranium one deal, that's going on. but you understand why they were doing that. she's the quarterback of the team, the article points out. she delivered the reset button to the russians after obama was elected. she would be targeted for spying. what i find out is that the american government rooted the amount. found. >> they did. my question is why relearning about this now? why did we know about this earlier? we should have known earlier. the timing on this -- >> the problem is the narrative and so far is that they tried to influence the trump administration. they tried to influence the trump campaign. what we know now is that they
went after hillary clinton and donald trump. this whole notion that they were just trying to collude with just donald trump is false. we know they targeted everybody. >> bill: very interesting point. if you want to count on the side, you've got to count six on the other. >> i beg to differ. follow the money from the clinton foundation. all of that should be made public. it should be transparent, whatever happened and is going on in canada, that all should be known. not just on one side. >> they tried to play the american people. they painted this picture it was just donald trump, that the russians were just trying to target donald trump. we know now they knew for eight years that they were doing it with the clinton administration as well. >> let's be clear, only since the election. since he won back of the focused on that. before that, all the focus was on the clinton foundation in the money. >> bill: i don't know how much
longer this investigation goes but this is just one aspect of it that we see. so much has been focused on social media, pop-up ads on on facebook and twitter. this isn't black and white here. >> exactly. i think they need to start focusing -- people make political ads all the time. i don't think that should be the focus. the focus should be -- i don't think anyone is disputing that they are not our friends. how did they get involved in our election? they wanted to create chaos in what we see is a bunch of chaos around the american people. they don't want us to have faith in our election system. they want to paint this picture that russia has influence they tried to target both sides. republicans and democrats to create this chaos. i think they were successful in creating chaos. no, they did not influence the election. >> bill: you're making a case it doesn't matter if there is a r or a d.
>> right. it's just chaos. >> we shouldn't stop at just the russians. it's not just a russian issue. to create chaos in our election system, other countries can as well. how do we protect ourselves in 2018 or 2020, going forward? >> i would contend, this story was not fairly reported. if they said they tried to target both sides instead of just one side, i don't think there would have been as much chaos. that's not what they did. they painted a picture they were just trying to influence donald trump and have secret meetings and they were trying to collude with each other. if they said it was both sides, this would be a nonstory. >> bill: for the fbi watching that happen. that's the story today at tohell.com. good to see you both. the pentagon with new information, with those four
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>> bill: apparently chuck schumer admitted the same. releasing a timeline about the ambush against our troops and why we have boots on the ground in that country. >> the united states military has had forces in niger off and on for more than 20 years. approximately 800 service members work as part of an international effort led by 4,000 french troops to defeat terrorists in west africa. >> bill: good evening to you and thank you for your time tonight. we will rely heavily on your expertise. chuck schumer and lindsey graham, this wasn't necessarily a secret. did their answers surprise you? >> they did. we've certainly had troops in niger, they may have been surprised there were 800 there. but the military structure --
the african commanders whom talk about here. he briefed on what his missions are and what they are trying to accomplish. usually he gives him a sense of what they are doing. i'm a little surprised it was not known we had 800 troops in niger. i don't know where the miscommunication is. there's a process. >> bill: let me poke through a few things. have you watched a lot of the reporting, you would think there's something fishy going on with american involvement. he was a military man, how would you address that? >> that's what brought general dunford out. through previous reports that may be the military has overextended itself. maybe there's something covert here. maybe the pentagon is trying to hide something.
that makes sense to me based on who i know it's running the military today. that's what produced the general's comments today. despite that, there's plenty of reasons to investigate certainly going into that village, even though they've been there many times before, they thought contact was going to be unlikely. did they get information in that village that may be changed the nature of the operation? we don't know. we will have to find out. >> bill: he filled in most of that timeline today. let me come back to that in a second. i thought the number he gave was a bit staggering. 58 african countries? some sort of special ops mission on a daily or weekly basis? how large -- how big is the scope of this operation when you are trying to get ahead of where the next threat can break out on the islamic terror front?
>> the numbers are a little misleading. let me see if i can clarify that a little bit. 53 countries. many of those have small numbers of forces in it. the 6,000 troops -- we have another 800 in niger, djibouti, somalia. about four or five countries where most of these are concentrated in. the number -- i'm not suggesting we don't have them in 53 countries. the numbers are very, very small. what's happening in africa, radical islam is spreading load globally and like wildfire inside of africa. it's on the move. the centerpiece to that is libya, a failed state as we all know. it just goes on and on. what this will likely produce --
we will probably conduct a review of our strategy as it applies to africa writ large and do we have the right strategies executing what president obama put us on a path to do a number of years ago? what kind of results are we getting and are we applying the right level of resources? and our guys aren't being unnecessarily exposed? which is going to be one of the top concerns. you can tell and general dunford's demeanor, he really wants to get to the bottom of this in terms of what happened. did we unnecessarily expose our troops? >> bill: in the final minute i have, clearly not enough time on this topic but he suggested today there was some sort of attack or offensive move against them and it wasn't until an hour later before -- another hour
before the french maras got ahead. they could not tell between friend or foe. now you are two hours into this operation. we have for dead soldiers. now we are trying to fill in -- how much of the story do think he cleared up? >> he cleared up some, certainly, it was two hours before they got any fighter aircraft to support them but they weren't employed and it begs the question were they able to communicate? did they have the frequency, the communication to be able to do that? i don't know. we've had problems like that with u.s. airpower on the ground as well, at times in the past. it creates more questions. this is what he knows right now. within 30 minutes, he certainly
wanted to clear that up. it took him 30 minutes to get out of there. >> bill: that's a huge area in africa. you wonder in this modern era, you have drones. i don't know how many drones you need to give protection for 3,000 forces operating in those countries. it seems to be impossible. >> they are mostly at bases where the drones are coming out of. the point is, not all of that activity is necessarily high threat, dangerous activity. our people are at providing training at training bases. could that base be invaded? yes, it can be but there's all different levels of risk and some of our people are there to make direct action contact with the enemy as we have done in
somalia, and libya and general dunford laid out a priority for that because they can be threatening the homeland. that's priority one. but training and assisting others. while the combat zone is not that dangerous. >> bill: thank you for making time for us. in a moment, liberals slamming president trump proposed tax plan but do they have a coherent message on their side? both sides of that conversation, when we returned here on "fox news tonight." at work, at home... even on the escalator. that can be hard on her lower body, so now she does it with dr. scholl's orthotics. clinically proven to relieve and prevent foot, knee or lower back pain, by reducing the shock and stress that travel up her body with every step she takes.
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they say it's budget neutral and it raises wages. it is never done that throughout history. >> bill: take that comment and ask if this is the way to move forward. chuck schumer, michael tobin here tonight. keeping the lights on in washington. good evening to you. >> i am great, thanks for having me. >> bill: i think you will have something in common with the gentleman to my left but the whole trickle-down economics, this is something that's been out there for 40 years. do democrats want to be on the wrong side of this tax cut mission? >> we've unfortunately heard a lot about what democrats are against. the current occupant of the white house. not a lot on what they are for. >> bill: 24/7. >> yes, not so much what they are for. the problem is they are not sure. they are going through an identity crisis. whether it's on tax plans or
defending the aca or any other host of issues, they need to lean back from being inherently negative. >> bill: you are one of the democrats that quest in the leadership today. >> no, as a former aide of senator schumer. >> bill: nancy pelosi, who has grown long on you, she always to back-to-back shall we say? >> at this point, become more about ego and leading the party. >> bill: to come back to texas, do you see a coherent message emerging on the democratic party's side right now? >> i've got to say, michael stole my talking point. you were right, bill. i do agree. the democratic party -- their methods since the election and even before that -- one of the reasons donald trump won, there
wasn't a firm foundation for the democratic agenda. first it was racism. then russia. then he hates immigrants. racism, russia, tear down all the statues. we don't like what trump is doing, we hate him, here's a fearmongering. but they haven't come back with any substantial alternatives. >> bill: i guess you can raise money off the bat but i do know how you move things. >> i would also say there's an opportunity in the chaos. the energy and heat and activism is in the far left of the democratic party. and then they need to get comfortable with the idea of leaning back a little bit and making compromises. and in swing states with independent voters. >> bill: coming back to the original phrase, the trickle-down economics. in 2017, is that an argument i could still work against republican politics?
>> the narrative that you hear most often when republicans talk about any type of tax reform or tax cuts, the narrative from the left remains to be you are giving tax cuts to the wealthy. look, i think about the size of a peanut the last time a tax cut came through. >> 1986. >> yes. if we were able to get that through, in 2017, we could just go ahead and put that in the w column. >> bill: that's not even acceptable to the republicans now. they must get some form of tax cuts or tax reform in the bank. >> i think it will happen. eventually, both sides. i guess came to submission. this is something we wanted to get done and it was behind obamacare. i think the order should have been reversed. no question about that. we should have dealt with the
obama situation afterwards. there something that could be put on the books that we can send for a vote. >> bill: i don't think you can afford not to do it. president trump would argue -- michael, do democrats in some form support tax cuts, tax reform? some of these marginal states? >> i believe they do. i believe president trump -- that he will make a deal with like-minded democrats, particularly in the senate. remember the distinction. it's a different zeitgeist or message and narrative than in the house free of these gerrymandered -- >> bill: do think sitting here tonight, how many democrats in the house would vote for some sort of republican led tax package? >> not many in the house.
>> bill: half a dozen on the house or zero? >> six is a good number. in the senate, three or four. >> bill: you are giving them margin for losing mccain? >> i'm not going to say and think about that but three or four. something that would be agreed upon ahead of time. >> bill: for the holiday or what? i'm talking christmas. >> the white house has figured they have to manage expectations. it's taken them a long time to get to that point. i don't know, before the holiday. >> bill: thank you, michael. amanda, thank you. more than 50 years later, a long-awaited classified document with president kennedy's assassination -- will they finally be made public? there are thousands of documents here. we will examine that, next. >> tech: don't wait for a chip like this to crack your whole windshield.
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1963 assassination of president john kennedy. more than 50 years, he may announcing after tweeting this... author of "the kennedy:half-century." how are you, sir? a good late evening to you. you favor releasing these, by the way. i just want to make it clear to our audience. do you believe in this stack of thousands of documents that it should be made public? that it will change the course of how we look at the kennedy assassination? if you use the warren commission, 1964 as your baseline, single shooter, lee harvey oswald is the killer. while any of those facts be believed changed by the end of this week? >> i doubt it, bill. for one thing you have third 100 files full of documents.
probably in the hundreds of thousands of pages. i do speed read occasionally but i don't read that fast. it will take us a long time. >> bill: is there anything embarrassing in there for the fbi and cia, for the government? >> probably. look, some of the leaders of the cia in recent years have admitted at least privately that they really dropped the ball on leave harvey oswald. in the 1960s. on lee harvey oswald. >> bill: in what regard? >> he was a defector to the soviet union who managed to get back into the united states and was involved in all kinds of pro-castro activities and other cooking things. he was somebody we should have kept an eye on. back then, the cia didn't communicate with the fbi and the fbi did not communicate with the cia. we could have stopped that assassination had there been more coordination.
that's the old fbi. and so to people in the that'sw they were in the '60s. we are 64 years on. >> bill: what about the trip to mexico? are we to look on that trip in a different light with oswald? >> i would like to find out more about it. he was there for six days. just seven weeks before the assassination. this very unusual american citizen spent time in both the soviet and embassy and mexico y and the sea. that's very unusual. in lots of different ways. he clearly wanted to defect again. he wanted to get a visa to cuba. there are reports including a report that j. edgar hoover -- the former fbi director -- passed along to the warren commission in the 1960s saying
that oswald before he left one of the embassies said i'm going to prove my fealty to the revolution. i'm going to shoot john f. kennedy. did he really say that and do they have more information? >> bill: has not been public before? or is that something just talked about? >> the j. edgar hoover memo has become public in the years since. this was a memo he sent to the warren commission. he was reporting on what sources had gleaned from fidel castro. what fidel castro had allegedly said. back in those days, we had taps on everything. maybe we still do. it was more primitive but nonetheless, we had a lot of raw intelligence. >> bill: [laughs] we have a lot of real intelligence now. the question like that and today is how you decipher it. and how you listen to it. and at what level of attention do you give certain details over others? do they all come out or does the president holds them back?
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times i asked him again. he said he absolutely did not meddle in our election. he did not do what they're saying he did. " ""john roberts is reporting on this on a moving bus at this moment. john, it's a fine distinction, but the president didn't say he believed putin. he said that he believes that putin means it, right? >> yeah. there is a different here and the language is what is important. we're pulling this bus, by the way, up to the royal palace in downtown hanoi, where the president and the president of vietnam will hold bilateral meetings. the president did make a lot of news on air force one when he said that he talked to president putin about whether or not russia meddled in the election. he got a denial from putin.
headquarters of raqqa fell. and the president and president putin agreed they would find a way forward and political solution to syria under the framework of the u.n. security council on syria. the two leaders saying that efforts to deconflict between the two militaries have proven fruitful in their ability to get after isis and they will continue to do that. we have this press conference soon and we expect that he will be asked to clarify what he meant about president putin. in terms of what he will do with the vietnamese president, the president is expected to get a strong measure of support from the president in the president's efforts to reign in north korea's nuclear program. he's been trying to get a lot of support for economic and diplomatic moves against north korea. it's also expected that he will expand trade with vietnam.
there could be some new property acquired by the united states to build a new embassy 1 ha-- in hanoi. and the coast guard is transering if a coast guard vessel to help with coast protection, especially important when you consider china's development of military facilities in the south china sea. a lot to talk about here in hanoi and we'll be with you all the way on that. >> and the looks like the bus driver is having issues getting through the gate, john. can you tell us about the challenges in navigating that driveway? >> well, i mean, navigating the driveway was nothing compared to navigating the narrow streets of hanoi. >> and there goes the shot. >> very narrow roads. he's doing his best. >> and you're testing the technology and we appreciate that. john roberts, thanks very much. roy moore the candidate for
alabama's seat refusing to exit the rate, denying claims that he pursued romantic relationship with teenagers. moore said that it's an attempt to derail his campaign weeks before the election. >> to be attacked for allegations of sexual misconduct contradicts my entire career in law. i want to make it clear to the media present and people present, i have not provided alcoholic beverages, beer or anything else, to a minor. i have not been guilty of sexual misconduct with anyone. >> jonathan serrie has more on this from alabama. how did that public appearance go over today? >> hi, rick. well, roy moore was greeted by both supporters and detractors, as he delivered the keynote speech at a veterans day program held at a public library held outside of birmingham.
when he showed up, a group of protesters gathered out side the venue and one protester that made it inside had to be escorted out. moore's speech focused primarily on military service, but did address the allegations against him, suggesting they were politically motivated, since they surfaced nearly 40 years after the fact and a month from the general election. >> it's come up now, it's well confirmed. it rings true. and it's not like men in power don't do this. >> moore faces democrat doug jones in the general election. >> it seems like the allegations have to be having a dramatic impact on the race. >> certainly democratic voters hope it will, in fact. many democrat-leaning voters say they see it as an opportunity to, for once, win a statewide election in alabama, win has been solidly red for many years.
however, moore not only faces opposition from democrats, but also from within his own party. take a look at this tweet. republican senator bob corker of tennessee tweeted, "look, i'm sorry, but even before these reports surfaced, roy moore's nomination was a bridge too far." moore enjoyed grassroots support against christian conservatives that trust him and his stand on social issues. and steve bannon had this to say during a speech at the citadel militarily college. >> until i see additional evidence on judge moore, i'm standing with him. >> on sean hannity's radio show, judge moore speculated that the allegations have surfaced -- they may be driven not only by democrats, but perhaps establishment republicans wanting to undermine his campaign. rick? >> jonathan serrie in gadsden,
alabama. thank you. a time of gratitude and remembrance, as we mark veterans day here in america. vice president mike pence honoring those that made the ultimate sacrifice, laying a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier. the vice president reap it rating the nation's commitment to the heroes that have served so brave ly. >> i say to each and every one of you veterans gathered here and all those that might be looking on, we're grateful for your service. we're grateful for your sacrifice. and i'll make you a promise. just as you fought for us, we will always fight for you.
more from washington. >> vice president mike pence never served in the military himself but is familiar with the sacrifices. his dad fought in the korea war, his brother is a marine and his son is in training now. that connection was very evident when he and his wife went to the vietnam veterans memorial to help volunteers clean the names listed on the wall. he was on his hands and knees with the other volunteers. it was below freezing. he said it was a great way to start his veterans day. later at arlington, the vice president talked about how his father was never the same after the korean war and that countless veterans face the same challenges as they return home. his message to them, "you are not alone." >> to all our veterans looking on, know this. we're with you.
you do not carry that burden alone. as a nation, we stand ready to help you shoulder that load, with the compassion and support and prayers of the american people. you were there for us and now we're there for you. >> across the country towns big and small are honoring those that wear the uniform. in the vice president's hometown of indianapolis, crowds lined the streets for a parade featuring 80 units marching alongside floats in addition to a group of floats that spelled out "indianapolis." in new york city, andrew cuomo commemorated the holiday by unveiling new custom license plates for each branch of the military. and vice president pence challenged everyone to think at
least one veteran living today. they deserve our gratitude as well as our understanding, support and our help, as they return home from the fight for our freedoms. rick? >> they certainly do. garrett tenney in washington. some survivors speaking out nearly a week after the shooting in a small texas town. a group of u.s. cities and states banning together to fight one of president trump's policy decisions. why they say that the president is not just out of touch with americans but the entire world. >> the primary point that i want to make is that the trump administration is not only isolated in the world community on this issue, but also isolated within america on this issue. t d #stuffynose #nosleep #mouthbreather
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>> with the trump administration pulling out of the paris climate accord, a group called america's pledge is taking matters into its own hands, vowing to cut greenhouse emissions here in the u.s. it has an economy bigger than jap japan. al gore was there, also there, former new york mayor michael bloomberg. >> if you're worried about the effects of our federal government and what the administration has been saying, i'm happy to say that since last november the rate of coal plant closures has increased, which shows you just how much influence washington has on this issue. >> the group says that president trump's withdrawal from the agreement has sparked a groundswell of activism, but admit they will not be able to achieve their ultimate goals without the federal government. a pair of parishioners breaking
their silence almost a week after kdevin kelley shot up the church. they said that they felt threatened by kelley. >> we know that the gunman attended a halloween event not terribly long ago, seeing as how it's only mid november now, and it was sponsored by the church, but there are varying accounts as to how he behaved at that particular event. as we reported this week, the pastor of the first baptist church viewed his presence as a good sign that perhaps it was a man trying to turn over a new leaf, but other members of the congregation tell "the associated press" that he was dressed in all black, that he didn't engage with people, had a blank stare on his face and that
they were scared, the thought crossing their minds that he was possibly armed. remember, the shooter's mother-in-law attended this church, but she was not there last sunday when the shooting happened. rick? >> that's chilling. casey, i see the scene behind you. how are the victims being honored there today? >> in a whole host of ways and, of course, it is veterans day, and, boy, did it take on a whole new meaning for this small community. out of the 26 people who were murdered as they worshipped, nearly half of them have ties to the united states air force. so there was full military salute to the victims, with an honor guard ceremony at the town's community center. also today, some of the first funerals. friends and family said goodbye to therese and richard rodriguez
in a private ceremony. they were both reportedly enjoying their retirement together, very active members of this church. we spoke it a catholic priest that came by the scene to pray with everyone today and he had this message for everyone out there. >> pray, certainly pray for the people here and for your community. then after you pray have some self-reflection and see how much you are fostering love, especially with your children. >> words of wisdom for society as a whole, as many of us struggle to make sense out of a very senseless crime. rick? >> casey steagle in sutherland springs, thanks very much. we're learning month are about the ambush that killed four u.s. soldiers in niger. what a new report reveals about the timeline of the attack.
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since the allegations broke out. rick? >> and release of his movie was canceled. it seems that every day we hear more allegations against more celebrities. >> yeah, that's right. richard dreyfuss's son accused kevin spacey of groping him when he was 18. richard dreyfuss tweeted he was proud of his son. a woman came out and claimed that richard dreyfuss exposed himself in the 1980s. he denied it, but said that he wasn't the nicest guy back then and did flirt with a lot of women. and kevin spacey is being accused of 15 men of sexual assault or inappropriate behavior. and we're hearing about an allegation from george takei. anthony edwards has accused gary goddard of molestation.
goddard calling that false. allegations really pouring out ever since harvey weinstein and the story broke, rick. and it doesn't appear they will stop anytime soon. >> safe bet. will carr, thank you. president trump's chat with vladimir putin getting a lot of attention. the president saying that he believes that putin means it when he said that he didn't mean by it. jamie weinstein will be here to help us parse through the words. dozens of veterans flying to the nation's capital. the details coming up. >> when we got back from vietnam, there was no welcome. it was like nobody cared about us, to be honest with you. it's the welcome home we never got. akes it hard to breathe. so to breathe better, i go with anoro. ♪go your own way
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christmas? >> there are differences and we'll take that to conference. it's 90% the same with little tweaks and nuances and i find that very encouraging. we're on pace to pass ours out of the house next thursday. >> here's how the two plans compare. both cut the corporate tax rate by 15%. for individuals, there are seven brackets in the senate plan, four in the houses. senate plan lets homeowners deduct mortgage interest payments up to $1 million. that's how it is now. the house cuts it in half. the elimination for state and local taxes, and the house bill allows it up to $10,000. this is a big one for moderate republicans in high-tax states like new york and california. >> the only way to be considered
is if the full property tax deduction is restored and if the state income tax is restored. other than that, it will be a tax increase on my constituents. >> mitch mcconnell made headlines when he told the "new york times" that he misspoke when he said, "nobody in the middle class will get a tax increase." he said he cannot promise that now. democrats are not on board with the republican plans. on friday, house minority leader nancy pelosi said, whether it's the senate or the house plan, it's "a tax scam," in her words. >> tax reform will be a major topic on "fox news sunday" tomorrow. and kevin brady will sit down with an exclusive interview with chris wallace. check your local listings. let's dig deeper now on one of the top stories, president trump's chat with russian president vladimir putin. the two talking on the sidelines
of the asian pacific summit, where putin denies meddling in the 2016 election. now the president is weighing in on that, telling reporters, "every time he sees me, he says, i didn't do that. and i believe, i really believe that when he tells me that, he means it." moments ago, the president tweeted this, "when will all the haters and fools out there realize that having a good relationship with russia is a good thing, not a bad thing? they're always playing politics. bad for our country. 5 want to solve north korea, syria, ukraine, terrorism and russia can greatly help." let's bring in jamie weinstein, host of the self-titled podcast. how are you? >> good. how are you? >> good. i was going to get your reaction to what the president said on the plane, but now he's tweeted. so what do you think of the point he's making now?
>> it's clear that from the beginning when donald trumps with running for president that he wanted to have a change in relations with russia. now some people believe there is nefarious reasons there and collusion. whether you believe that or he felt it was a bad policy, it's something he's wanted to do for some time. the statements he made abroad, either interpretation, that what the president might have been saying is that he was saying that he believes that vladimir putin believes there was no russian meddling is remarkable. either way, it contradicts what america's intel agency said. if you remember the intel report, the unclassified report into russian hacking, they assess with high confidence that putin himself direct the the russian hacks. so it's a contradiction on what the intel agencies have told donald trump.
it's a fairly remarkable statement for a president of the united states to be abroad and side with a leader of a country that's not exactly an ally 7 america's own intel agencies. >> if the president said that he believes that putin believes it when he says he didn't meddle, maybe he has an ulterior motive and maybe he's saying that for a reason. >> perhaps he wants to get past of the issue entirely to work on other issues. regardless of whether there is some grand scheme here or if he's playing 3d or 4d chess among his opponents, it's a remarkable thing for a president of the united states to be on foreign soil and side with a leader of an unsavory country -- i shouldn't say unsavory
country, but a country that is not an ally. if it was a democratic president, republicans would be up in arms, and some are. john mccain released a statement, attacking what the president said. >> to finish that point, there could be something to gain by offering support to his russian counterpart, as evidenced by his most recent tweet saying that he is trying to get stuff done. >> maybe it will lead to cooperation. maybe it will be seen as a point of weakness, conceding a point that our intelligence agencies say is not true. they say that not only the hacks occurred, but vladimir putin directed them. so, you know, perhaps this is 3d chess and no one realizes it, but it's clear that donald trump wants to move beyond the hacking situation to deal with these
issues, but he's conceding a point to vladimir putin on foreign soil throwing what appears to be our intel agencies under the bus, saying that he believes vladimir putin's interpretation or even that putin didn't do it. >> and he said on air force one that he's really hoping to move past it. what is he going to do, sit there and argue with the russian president. "well, we think you did meddle." will he continue that or move on to more pressing matters that might affect more americans moving forward? >> he clearly wants to move on, but he does seem that he wants to concede the point. you can, you know, move on to other issues perhaps without conceding the point, but clearly there's a lot of issues at stake here. donald trump, as he mentioned, witness to deal with north korea, syria, and ukraine, i think he mentioned. there's a lot of conflict between the united states and russia and there are some issues
that there might be common ground on. that's clearly where donald trump wants to move. the hacking, the collusion question, he wants to put it away. but i don't think it's going away. obviously, robert mueller is still doing his investigation. as much as donald trump wants to do that, those questions will still linger. >> i think you are right about that, jamie. thanks for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> the stars and stripes honor flight is a program making sure that veterans of world war ii and korean and vietnam wars make it to washington to see their memorials. ♪ and bright stars >> it's 5:00 a.m. on a saturday, but at mitchell international airport in milwaukee, you would never know it. many of these veterans have memories of leaving this airport somber, destined for war.
now it's a party to celebrate and honor those who serve. how excited are you about this? >> i'm extremely excited. it's a good feeling, a very good feeling. >> it's amazing. >> excitement is high, as we head to our nation's capitol. the stars and stripes honors flight is taking about 150 veterans to see the memorial built in their honor, some for the very first time. among them, three brothers, roger, khan and grant haggen, all served in the vietnam war between 1964 and 1974. >> it's a miracle the fact that we all survived. >> the three served in different roles, a grunt, instructor, pilot. >> we don't talk about it. most guys don't. >> for some reason, it feels okay to do that this weekend. >> and that's just one part of the stars and stripes honor flights mission.
[applause] >> it's just awesome seeing the smiles on their faces. >> you guys were in vietnam and you didn't get that welcome home. what does it feel like right now to get that welcome home. >> i'm going to cry. >> when we got back from vietnam, it was no welcome. nobody cared about us, to be honest with you. it's the welcome home we never got. >> time at the world war ii memorial brought awe. the vietnam memorial brought tears.
there's a sea of names. >> every name on there represents a family tore apart. >> and also on their minds, as they saw the wall and the gravestones at arlington cemetery, their own brushes with death. >> i got shot down in a helicopter. it was like a car crash. we were going to a top of a mountain. mortars went off. everything went wrong. the way down, on fire, smoke, it was somewhat traumatic. >> you are the pilot that brought the helicopter down and everyone survived. >> that's correct. >> if i could salute you. >> thank you. >> back on the plane, a special surprise. >> mail call. mail call. receiving letters of thanks from their loved ones. >> this is from my grandchildren. i'm their hero. >> it's been a long day.
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controller for possession of a pipe bomb. the suspect, 30-year-old paul bandon, had access to a control tower. this is sparking concerns over what he might have been planning >> i feel scared because he could have hurt anybody. we don't know what his intentions was or what he was going to do with that thing. >> police are charging two charlotte residents with manufacturing and possessing a weapon of mass destruction. a phone call led them to a home where they found a pipe bomb. derek fells said that he made the bomb to use against a neighbor he had a dispute with. he said he changed his mind and then changed his mind and gave it to his friend and roommate, who is a full-time air traffic controller. he was arrested friday.
it the bomb never made it to the airport, however given access to the charlotte/douglas international airport, the fact that he was in possession of the bomb is of great concern. the airport said that he only had access to the offsite control tower and no access to the restricted areas of the terminal or ramp. charlotte/douglas said he didn't have access to any air craft. the arrest causing some concern for some travelers at charlotte's airport. >> i feel scared because could have hurt anybody. you don't know what his intention was or what he was going to do with that thing. >> if they know ahead of time there is something to keep us safe. >> the charge is possession, acquiring and transporting a weapon of mass destruction. and fells is charged with three counts of manufacturing a weapon
of mass destruction. both men are in the mecklenburg county jail with $45,000 bonds. rick? >> thank you. the mercury fortunately is rising now in the northeast and mid-atlantic after a blast of arctic air caused all sorts of problems across the great lakes region and the northeast, including motorists navigating icy roads in syracuse, new york. >> probably used to it, but it's below average when you talk about where we should be this time of year. a warm-up is about to take place and already is. it will be very slow. plenty of cool temperatures across the country. talk a look at the upper midwest. that's where the temperatures have been incredibly cool, way below our seasonal average. feels-like, 35. stretching back into the midwest in the mid 20s. 30 in chicago. with that wind, it feels frigid. the slow warm-up takes place
overnight tonight and into your sunday. here's your overnight lows. you are seeing that we're at them. 30 in detroit. so not a huge difference there. and it will have to warm up in chicago to get down to that early morning low for tomorrow. you begin to see the temperatures climbing just a little bit for you on sunday. running become down into the 40s, mid to upper 40s in some cases. the same will be true for us on monday. then more of a heat-up begins to pump in on tuesday and wednesday and we'll bounce back into the 50s. and things will be feeling more comfortable after dealing with cool weather here. otherwise, mostly clear conditions across the country. a little bit of a mix in the plains states. our next big system is coming in from the pacific northwest. we're looking at a rain system. upper elevations and snow. this is beginning tonight, running into tomorrow. at times, we'll look at very heavy rainfall.
before it's all said and done, you will get reds and oranges around seattle and down to portland. that's 4 to 6 inches. we can see some standing water in those areas. for the rest of the country and specifically here in the northeast, it's just cold, cold, cold temperatures, rick. >> 20s last night, right? did we break the record? >> several areas broke the record, but we were right down at it everywhere. >> you don't expect that in early november. >> no, you don't. thanks. >> the u.s. honoring its brave men and women as folks across europe do the same, remembering those that fought and made the ultimate sacrifice in world war i. those ceremonies are still ahead. plus this -- >> i've been watching these videos of soldiers and sailors and airmen and marines coming home. and my allergies kick in when i'm watching. i hope i get the response i'm looking for. >> this u.s. army soldier warming our hearts, returning home unannounced.
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-- world war i. the last of the survivors have passed away. britain, alongside the u.s., has lost, of course, many service members in more recent conflicts such as afghanistan and iraq. so this day is very much on people's minds and there were similar tributes held all over the country. tomorrow there will be another event attended by the queen to mark remembrance sunday. there was also a ceremony in france today. emanuel macron laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown. and next year france will be holding a special event to mark 100 years since the end of the first world war. rick? >> unique honor for a world war ii veteran. a new product with this airman's picture on the label. >> i don't like being called a hero. >> why not? >> a hero is somebody that does
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accusations that he deliberately lied about labour's tax plans. scientists are trying to find the source of an e.coli outbreak that has seen 113 people fall sick across the uk. the shocking rise in mobile thefts. a phone is now stolen every ten minutes in london. i'll look at why banking apps are making your device a target for gangs. a week before scotland get the euros under way, a big call by the england boss, as gareth southgate, decides to leave one of his most talented players, jack grealish, at home. showers on the menu again today, particularly in the north of the country, and staying cool, and throughout this weekend. and the beginning of a new era — taylor swift plays her first uk date in the most lucrative concert tour
do you think the key issues are going to be?— do you think the key issues are going to be? do you think the key issues are rroin to be? ~' , :. going to be? i think in terms of the d-day commemorations, _ going to be? i think in terms of the d-day commemorations, quite i going to be? i think in terms of the i d-day commemorations, quite often d—day commemorations, quite often redcar— d—day commemorations, quite often redcar in— d—day commemorations, quite often redcar in the north—east and the north—eastern general fills long way from westminster and things that cause _ from westminster and things that cause arguments and politics don't have residents here. the questions are whether rishi sunak was truthful about— are whether rishi sunak was truthful about labour's tax plans versus leaving — about labour's tax plans versus leaving d—day early, the first one won't _ leaving d—day early, the first one won't have — leaving d—day early, the first one won't have a big impact in the north—east, i suspect the d—day commemorations probably will, it's the sort _ commemorations probably will, it's the sort of— commemorations probably will, it's the sort of thing, like party gate, it's the _ the sort of thing, like party gate, it's the sort— the sort of thing, like party gate, it's the sort of thing that will resonate _ it's the sort of thing that will resonate with the public, but that remains _ resonate with the public, but that remains to — resonate with the public, but that remains to be seen. in terms of the wider— remains to be seen. in terms of the wider issue — remains to be seen. in terms of the wider issue here there is a lot of social— wider issue here there is a lot of social problems here, hi crime rates and a _ social problems here, hi crime rates and a lot— social problems here, hi crime rates and a lot of— social problems here, hi crime rates and a lot of ill health and poverty. things— and a lot of ill health and poverty. things like — and a lot of ill health and poverty. things like public services, crime, policing _ things like public services, crime, policing and job creation are big
and naga munchetty. our headlines today... more people are joining the search for the presenter michael mosley, who has gone missing while on holiday on a greek island. ahead of a bbc debate between the seven main parties in britain, prime minister rishi sunak denies accusations that he deliberately lied about labour's tax plans. scientists are trying to find the source of an e.coli outbreak that has seen 113 people fall sick across the uk. a week before scotland get the euros underway, a big call by the england boss, as gareth southgate opts for youth over experience and decides to leave one of his most talented players, jack grealish, at home. and showers are on the menu again today, particularly for the northern half of the country. we could see more of them this weekend and it will stay rather cool throughout. i'll have the forecast.
and dozens who were sheltering there were injured. on wednesday, israel launched a new assault in central gaza near deir al—balah — the last city in the strip that israeli tanks had not entered. at least 70 people are said to have been killed, including several children. on wednesday, the uk election campaign saw a bitter row breaking out — with the labour leader sir keir starmer accusing rishi sunak of "lying" about labour's tax plans during tuesday's tv debate. here's our political editor chris mason. 0n last night's tv debate, rishi sunak said this... highertaxes, £2,000 worth of higher taxes under the labour party. ..and again... by saddling them with £2,000 worth of higher taxes. ..and over, and over again. independent treasury officials have costed labour's policies,
as a top civil servant's letter casts doubt on the prime minister's claims on labour's tax plans. campaigning continues across the country — we'll focus on two battleground constituencies. welcome to bbc news. the king and queen, and the prince of wales, have joined second world war veterans at an event in portsmouth to mark this week's 80th anniversary of d—day. the normandy landings were the largest seaborne invasion in history, with the 1944 battle laying the foundation for an allied victory. the special ceremony was narrated by dame helen mirren — and included a fly—past by the red arrows. 0n the french side of the channel a spectacular recreation has been taking place of the airborne assault that accompanied the beach landings.