the editors did vote the way they did. he s the only head of state that can allow pictures of himself shirtless on horseback to be all over the world. i think religious figures are also judged on how much financial power they have. it s a preposterous joke. and we should treat it with the contempt it thoroughly deserves. we apologize here. david gergen. just saying if you have a different kind of judging, let s say the top ten thugs in the world then vad minute putin could well be on the top of that list. the problem you have with this list is, let s take you take this kind of survey about how people exercised power in the second world war. probably hitler then stalin then franklin roosevelt and maybe churchill. look at the value that is go into a survey. on top of a demographically dying, really running russia
usually gdp. corporate leaders that s revenue. and for religious leaders, it s their finances. we look at how many followers or people they have power over. so for the pope, 20% of the world s population is catholic. we also look at are they powerful in multiple spheres. so somebody like mayor bloomberg who s a politician, a billionaire, a major philanthropist and media mogul is powerful in many different ways. then we look at whether or not they are active in using their power. and we have eight of of our editors vote on everybody, candidate list of about 150 people. then we rank them. and this is how they came out this year. my guess is why that putin is on top probably had something to do with the timing of the voting. the vote was didn t during the government shutdown, right after the showdown over syria. and that would be my assumption. but i can t tell you exactly why
putin s manipulated the russian political system that he could stay in power until 2024. and you may say it s a tdeclinig power, but major energy state. that s all they ve got. they don t really have a proper economy because he s ruined the possible foundations of such an economy. andrew, what do you really think about this list? i get that andrew doesn t like the list very much. i entered a weekly magazine for five years and somehow managed to never do this lazy trawling list stuff. come on. come on. 250 magazines with no lists. no lists? i ll bet you did a lot of intellectual trawling. i did a little bit of [ overlapping speakers ] michael noor, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. thanks in forbes obviously right now. [ overlapping speakers ]
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should. [ overlapping speakers ] his relationship with capitol hill? would that be another example for you he leaves it to others? if you talk to people on the hill, republicans have a huge amount of hatred. way beyond what it should be. but i think if you talk to democrats you find they find he s disengaged. i have a theory, may be wrong, in the domestic side, i think to a considerable degree in foreign policy, he has centralized power in the white house. he s disempowered a lot of people in the cabinet agencies. they re treated much more like staff than real cabinet officers. he s not the first president to do this. but when he brought power into the white house he did not set up a team in the white house who could really run the government with all that power. that s which think he s had some problems. i agree with you on how difficult it is to understand techie speak. but there s also been some very clear memos that have come to light where the people working on the web site