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Interest in ukraine, what do you say to them? >> well, again, i think the number one biggest point and i hate to agree with senator rubio all the time but the notion if you are a large, powerful country can you simply take over your neighbors if you feel like it is a notion that by and large we have kept at bay since the end of world war ii. i mean, thats been sort of the post world war ii. certainly we have the cold war. you know, the battle that was going on there. but of the idea of, you know...