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Thanks for joining us? >> great to be here. >> heather: im going to follow up with a question from our previous interview that gregg wrapped up. do you think indiana is a template for wisconsin and other states to look at when it comes to collective bargaining? >> i think were a template in many different areas. weve got a balanced budget. that is one of the things we ran on again this year. we set republicans took control of the house we will would insist with a balanced budget without a tax in...

Support collective bargaining for unions and dont want to take away those rights. so public opinion on this subject is mixed and if governor walker is able to succeed in getting most if not all of what he wants, balance the budget and starts reducing the $3.6 billion deficit. >> then the republicans will take great benefit and will move in the same direction. right now a lot of republican governors are watching and waiting to see how this plays out. >> gregg: i want to ask you about what is happ...

Half a block away, for wisconsin governor scott walker. new jersey no stranger to a battle with unions. and the governor christie has been battling with the teachers union. and one says the governor has not gone far enough. and steve is an organizer, a rally for this, today, and he also, has challenged governor christie when he was running in the republican primary in 2009 and gave him a heck of a fight. good to have you. >> he is going in the right direction but we have to push him further. >>n...

Take to resolve this and purr button, yeah. >> indiana governor and ohio governor, republican, both say theyre not going to push to get rid of collective bargaining rights when it comes to salaries because they saw this stand-off. >> one thing that people fail to understand is how every state is different. its constitution, statutory laws and the make-up and demographics of the state. when you see the organization that say theyre going to grade states, its one of the things i attack in this book...

Ate step in the right direction. its consistent with the first two years the deficit commission recommended. we went beyond that. we said after the first two years we need a 5% reduction in the first year and half the cost of living increase reduction for the next seven years. so we do achieve more through the deficit commission. now, david, the good news is this. there are six of us, three democrats and three republicans. still meeting. looking at the deficit commission as a template or as a go...

Will be felt in other cities with strong union memberships. what feeling do you get from the people in the crowd there seven days into this? are they worried they might be losing this here? >> well, i think what they believe that is, indeed, this could be -- i know what somebody was referring to as a. the beginning, the nationwide movement here and whatever happens here could have a domino effect around the country. there are a lot of states considering similar bills to this. ohios one state tha...

President dwight d. eisenhower. ate step in the right direction. its consistent with the first two years the deficit commission recommended. we went beyond that. we said after the first two years we need a 5% reduction in the first year and half the cost of living increase reduction for the next seven years. so we do achieve more through the deficit commission. now, david, the good news is this. there are six of us, three democrats and three republicans. still meeting. looking at the deficit com...

This was a president, senator durbin, who said during the transition we cant kick the can down the road when it comes to entitlement spending. the biggest drivers of our nations debt yet he chose not to do so in this budget. why? >> well, lets give credit where its due. the presidents budget will freeze spending, and over t course of five years is going to reduce our deficit by some $400 billion. well see domestic discretionary spending at the lowest level as a percentage of gdp since president ...

He takes very seriously the need to reduce spending in the near term thats why his budget proposal does things like cut $400 billion over ten years, to reduce spending, to get not just spending but the deficit, which is very important. but he also understands that there needs to be a conversation about a long-term debt and that needs to be as he said an adult conversation where reasonable people from both parties sit down and talk about just this major challenge that we face and ways to deal wit...

In the near term, thats why his budget proposal does things like cut $400 billion over 10 years. to, to reduce spending, to get not just spending but the deficit, which is very important. but he also understands that there needs to be a conversation about a long-term debt and that needs to be, as he said an adult conversation where reasonable people from both parties, sit down, and talk about this major challenge that we face and ways to deal with it. and i think that needs to be, if were going ...