about this again, nor has anyone ever offered any evidence of this and the fbi says this never happened but he talked about it on the house floor, anyway. governor perry is no louie gohmert, we should add there are ways to criticize the preside president s handling of immigration that do not involve terror babies or syrian sleepers to unleash a human flood so that so far mainly seems to be damaging this administration. joining us jorge ramos and back with us dana bash. let s bring in david gur ra gin. many saying he s certain to run in 2016. is that what is driving this? i talked to a lot of people close to governor perry. it s not what is driving him, this whole focus because it is a very real crisis in his state and he is the sit-in governor. however, it is a happy political
are being in this country. that s louie gohmert back in june of 2010 on the house floor, talking about terror babies. congressman gohmert had absolutely no facts to back that up because there are no facts to back it up. not then and not two months later, when he came on the program. you re going to keep me honest? you tell the world that you ve got an fbi statement. you bring on a retired fbi former supervisor, and he says we were not aware of any credible report that this was going on? i brought it to the attention of america for this reason. it was i m a former judge. i know it was here say coming from a day. scher brought to it my attention on an airplane, having flown together. and she brought that to my attention. that s why i was talking to the retired fbi agent about it. and so having talked to him, no, i didn t talk to them, because the point is when we did the
research, we found the whole existed. what research? can you tell us about the research? you re attacking the messenger, anderson, you re better than this. you used to be good. you used to find there was a problem and you would go after it. i used to be good. by the way, he has never talked about this again, nor has anyone ever offered any evidence of this. and the fbi says it never happened. but he talked about it on the house floor. anyway, governor perry we should say is no louie gohmert. we should add there are many ways to criticize the president s handling of immigration and the immigration mess that do not involve terror babies or syrian sleepers or presidential plots to unleash a human flood that so far only seems to be damaging this administration. now joining us jorge ramos, also back with us chief congressional superintendent dana bash and let s bring in senior political correspondent gergen.
and we are back. the congressman who gave us terror babies is standing alone to preserve lunacy. texas congressman louie gohmert gave his heartfelt floor speech wednesday about protecting a word he feels is very important to doing his job. the last vote we took today was to eliminate the word lunatic from our federal law, and i don t have a problem with lunatic being used in the federal law. and apparently i was the only one here on the floor that didn t have a problem with using the term lunatic. louie gohmert was the only no vote on a bill to strike the word lunatic from federal
and other places. i ve seen the horrible things they ve done overseas and in this country as weapon. later in the broadcast, we re going to look at the role foreign jihadists are playing in syria right now. i m not defending radical islamists nor am i naive to their beliefs. but what i am talking about is people working in this government making allegations or spreading innuendos about them without any direct evidence. they re dragging people s names and reputations through the mud. here are the five people we are talking about, michele bachmann, trent franks and others. newt gingrich refers to the others as the national security five. he blames american elites for being blinded to the political threat. it verges on a psychosis. he goes on, the national security five are doing their duty and asking difficult questions designed to make america safer. we think you deserve a look at the people they ve been targeting and the tactics they ve been using. they ve named these two ask