5-4 situation, so we ll have to see. yeah, i am certainly not a lawyer, and i certainly hope that there are people who are literally dying to get here because they want a better life for themselves and their children, so i would hope that we are not singling out people from some countries, when in fact, the people who hurt us on 9/11 for example are from none of those countries, it seems a very arbitrary decision to make selective countries, i am not for this muslim ban, which is in fact what it is, but i m even more confused by the decision today. shannon: but remember again, these are the countries that were chosen under the obama administration because it was their concern about the terror traffic, right, david? it is exactly that. the obama admin is in its duration identified these countries as dangerous, has lived up to once again his campaign promises to make sure that he has commander-in-chief is able to protect the american people from these dangerous people. and that s