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On the other hand, could it pass congress? well, thats -- if thats what you mean by doable, its much more likely that joe bidens plan passes congress than kamala harriss. but, you know, it depends upon the election. if he ran -- if she becomes the nominee, wins big, then it becomes in part a mandate on that plan and you do have a lot of political momentum behind it. >> biden was saying that her plan will cost about $30 trillion. his is just a fraction of that cost because its a testament to, i g...

Counter it. since it is there, already there, it needs to be fixed. >> frances, that last gentleman you heard from, david kline, he voted for president trump back in 2016. he lives in las vegas, a swing state up for grabs in 2020. and i think what hes a testament to, this debate is a broader conversation beyond just democratic voters and this primary process. but there are republicans and independents in places like nevada, like here in texas, beto orourke lost that senate race by just 2.5 perce...

>> thats exactly right. and jon meacham connected the thousand points of light to abraham lincoln and said they were the touch stones of the american national hymn in effect. that was intentional. whether it was directly related to trumps speech or not. they were a way of defining president bush for this era and what politics could be, the way they felt it should be. and i think it was no accident. there were other moments, too. brian mulroney, the former prime minister of canada talked about th...

Be rescued by the national party. >> shows you the state of play nationwide. >> if theres anyone who can bring new voters into the fold, he has it. whatever it is. if theres a race thats going to defy the odds of a state like texas, this seems to be said race. >> every race we talk about the ticking democrat graphic time bomb and look at a few states. texas is the one that people are always most skeptical about. looking at other states like georgia, like nevada, like arizona. but the fact that w...

And the downs. >> yeah. >> an unvarnished view. john mccain has a singular role, michael steele in republican politics. in our national politics. >> he does. he has been a stalwart. he has been someone despite how some in the party felt about him from time to time, hes been the guy whos always been in the corner for republicans across this country. never minding their political stripe as conservative or moderate, all that. it was the idea of what republicanism meant, and what it would mean for t...

The cultural piece of that is right now leading much faster than the political piece. so from modern family, macklemore song, the grammys, a fairly staid, you might say centrist kind of mass-marketed programming, can all feel, you know what, this debate is over. its over for young people. its over for people who care about equality. it is not going to reverse. in some ways, we have won, but its a slow-motion win. and so, to me, seeing that last point of unity, across the entire platform, across ...

Book of ruined homes and displaced dreams. its about fight and courage and hope and, you know, its a testament to, yeah, it may -- the scope of this problem may be so huge, but theres people out there on the streets doing it every day and theyre going to win. i mean at some point theyre going to win. they have such an incredible battle before them, but theres people fighting and thats the only way to win it. you cant just walk away. >> we surely hope theyre going to win. detroit is really going ...

Are you surprised it blew up today? >> yeah, for two reasons, one, so much blood lust out there, and two im really surprised the establishment gop led by folks like carl rove has acted so swiftly in terms of condemnation. thats testament to, a, the field being unsettled and the sense on veteran gop strategists that rick perry might not be ready for primetime. >> the chief dynamic here, which is always the dynamic in primaries, but particularly right now in this early stage in the republican part...

>> yeah, for two reasons, one, so much blood lust out there, and two im really surprised the establishment gop led by folks like carl rove has acted so swiftly in terms of condemnation. thats testament to, a, the field being unsettled and the sense on veteran gop strategists that rick perry might not be ready for primetime. >> the chief dynamic here, which is always the dynamic in primaries, but particularly right now in this early stage in the republican party circa 2011 is the most rabid voter...