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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:46:00

has been nurturing for over a year now. you just said something really important to underscore it, and there s so much dehuman ization that goes on. there s people who get their information wherever they get it but can respond with facts. if you come to this with an open mind, you might get something was stolen, and i don t know about you, but stealing is bad. if they think something is stolen, they start to think, biden is bad. then they start watching some of their heroes, bill barr, ivanka trump, and they say it was not stolen and we told trump and the best thing for america and, according to barr, conservatism he put it in both ways is to face the fact and move forward. fox was so worried about that, they spent a lot of money

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:47:00

censoring it. and how do you catch up today, they wavered? ran the hearings during the day. well, there s farless of an audience during the day. i think you know that. primetime has a lot more viewers. and i think that they primed their audience on some level not to take it seriously. i mean, can tell you that, you know, being in the sort of mockery business on some level, which is what i do with some of those things, they could have easily run those hearings monday night, and if they didn t think any of the things were serious were being said they could have had sean hannity or laura ingram or tucker carlson make snide comments throughout the whole thing and debunk it, but i think they were very, very concerned about that. so i think there was a fear. i don t think the vast majority of fox viewers are going to change their mind about this, but i think there s enough that at least the fox intelligenceia were afraid that this might get

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:45:00

for biden, i think they felt that. i think it stung. i think it was a lot of people who abandoned fox at that moment, and obviously not for any other mainstream news organizations but for ones that were sort of deeper down the worm hole, ones that many people probably watching this never heard of before. one that was out of business and some that were being sued because of their claims of the big lie. they abandoned them later. and i think it was not just a question of catering to their called audience, although that s a bizarre thing to say if you re a news organization, you don t want to give your audience only exclusively what they want to hear. but i think it was a concern if they did allow some of that information to filter through, a significant part of their audience would feel like they had been misled or misunderstood the entire narrative that fox

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:19:00

the president of baseball? i guess that s true, ari. i don t know. i m out of my lane. that was a curveball of a final question. for me, too. emily and maya, not only thanks for your expertise buck thanks for putting up with me. pleasure. always great putting up with you. appreciate it. coming up, we have more new details on how the coup tried to reach the justice department. the one and only chairman of the senate judiciary committee dick durbin live. and later, fox news under pressure and waffling. stay with us. this. is the planning effect. this is how it feels to know you have a wealth plan that covers everything that s important to you. this is what it s like to have a dedicated fidelity advisor looking at your full financial picture. making sure you have the right balance of risk and reward. and helping you plan for future generations.

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 22:41:00

about who won, causing panic. part of the problem of course was that there were opinion hosts on fox who, for months and months and months, had been repeating the baseless claim that trump was going to win the election for sure. fox lost the thread over time, but you the old idea at fox was a robust news division, but in 2020, for a lot of reasons, there was some panic. that former fox employee speaking to npr after of course he testified to these hearings. so, we know how it all went. fox was apipeline for election claims and some lies, which directly fed the environment for the insurrection. indeed, one shows they pushed the over 700 times. this is not a debate over how to cover elections. this is something worse for fox.

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